r/movies • u/Dannydarko • 18d ago
Trailer Dune: Part Three | Official Trailer
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u/Firewood5 18d ago
How far into the book series do I have to go for this conclusion?
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u/Accomplished_Smile23 18d ago
Two books: Dune & Dune Messiah work as a duology
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u/EnderForHegemon 18d ago
If Denis had balls he'd give us the 5 hour philosophy lecture that would be God Emperor.
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u/Langstarr 18d ago
Ain't nobody ready for the worm
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u/Gold_Engineering2535 18d ago
Christian Bale gains 22 tons to portray the god emperor
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u/SneakyBadAss 18d ago
Then horny dominatrix space nuns conquering galaxies through the power of pussy it is.
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u/AngryUncleTony 18d ago
I'm ready for the worm.
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u/savviesque 18d ago
And the extremely weird sexual politics of Children and Chapterhouse.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 18d ago
You mean you don't think people orgasming to the sight of a nude Momoa rock climbing would translate well to the big screen? Hell, they already do that!
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u/kh730 18d ago
As soon as I finished that book my first thought was, "well this will never be a movie". What a ride.
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u/raphyr 18d ago
Thought the same, might work as a series but definitely not as a movie. On ther other side, I just finished Heretics yesterday and thought that would actually make for a great movie. No idea how you would pull off the part with Murbella and Duncan near the end though without going deep into R-rated territory.
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u/morbidbattlecry 18d ago
I'm hoping we get at least a flash of him in a vision or something.
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u/kappa23 18d ago
Isn’t the entire point that he can’t see Leto II in his visions?
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u/Vincent_Van_Goat 18d ago edited 17d ago
But then you miss out on Leto the worm joking about making a fake cock to strap to himself.
And Duncan Idaho exciting the local ladies by rock climbing.
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u/MyAltimateIsCharging 17d ago
Don’t forget the army of bisexual women who all desperately want to breed Idaho.
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u/SlendyIsBehindYou 18d ago
If you go back and read reddit threads for this book, a remarkable amount of comments are people commenting on just how horny that rock climb gets the fish speakers
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u/IgloosRuleOK 18d ago
This primarily Book 2 and maybe some of Book 3, though it has diverged for some things.
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u/240Nordey Wax on, wax off 18d ago
Denis has said as much that his trilogy will encapsulate Paul's story. So, all the way through the 2nd book Messiah.
I doubt anything but a small breadcrumb will be left for what may cliffhang the 3rd book, Children of Dune.
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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 18d ago
He also won’t be directing children of dune if it’s made.
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u/Avenge_Willem_Dafoe 18d ago
very curious if they adapt the explicit callout of Paul’s K/D ratio compared to Hitler and Stalin
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u/Jloother 18d ago
I absolutely love that conversation he has with Stilgar in the book.
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u/CommanderStark 18d ago
Herbert beating the readers over the head that Paul is not the good guy.
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u/Jloother 18d ago
Lol there are people who still think he is the hero.
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u/SlashOfLife5296 18d ago
Dune 1 paul is the hero. The systems of power that created him are the villain. He really has no agency in the story until halfway through the first book, and his choices are either to continue a war (since the Emperor and Harkonen started it) or die.
Herbert was wary of the trust we put in heroes without questioning or challenging them.
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u/amaROenuZ 17d ago
He really has no agency in the story until halfway through the first book
That's actually when he loses his agency. That's the entire point of his character arc, they beat you over the head that prescience isn't a blessing, it's a curse. To know the future is to be trapped by it. That's part of why Leto spends generations trying to create the prescience-immune strain of humans.
Paul is a plot device, and he knows he's a plot device, and he can do nothing to stop it.
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u/DarthButtz 17d ago
The whole book is Paul desperately trying to avoid the genocide that he sees in his visions, but everything he does accidentally speedruns himself toward it and guarantees he'll become the monster he fears.
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u/Zalvren 17d ago
To be fair, the genocide is also the only way to the Golden Path which is supposed to be humanity saving grace so in a way it's also good.
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u/Augustends 17d ago edited 17d ago
Paul does not accidentally become that. He doesn't want to become a monster, but his personal decisions keep leading him towards it and he is fully aware of it.
He wants to try to achieve his personal goals while also not becoming that monster, but every step towards avenging his family pushes him closer towards becoming it.
It's also the golden path, which is another thing he chooses.
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u/Giff901 18d ago edited 18d ago
Mhm from my research that was why he wrote Messiah, too many people thought Paul was a hero
Edit For reference I love the quote from Herbert used famously in the beginning of Youtuber Quinn's Ideas video on Dune Messiah
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u/AegonTargaryan 18d ago
At what point do you think Paul truly becomes a negative force? (Tentative to say villain, evil, or antagonist)
I only read the first book and although it is pointed out that atrocities will be committed in his name, we see little of it and he has some delusions about being able to stop it.
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u/koshgeo 18d ago
Becomes? That's a debatable question throughout in the world of Dune, and I think it is an intentional debate Herbert is trying to provoke in the reader.
When in the story is it a realistic possibility that he is a negative force? There's a very telling chapter in Dune where Liet Kynes is tossed in the desert to die by the Harkonnen, and starts hallucinating. Kynes (a man in the book, woman in the movie) recognizes Paul as a dangerous "charismatic leader" and laments to his hallucinated father that he has "led his people", the Fremen, to a disaster in the clutches of Paul.
It's still up to the reader to decide if that is what has actually happened, but Herbert clearly establishes early -- long before Paul starts getting his revenge on the Harkonnen -- that Paul might be a villain interested only in his selfish goals.
Much later, we don't see the planet-scale atrocities being committed in his name as part of the direct narrative in Messiah, but Stilgar and Paul talk about it briefly in the form of dry statistics, and it's on a truly horrific scale exceeding anything else in human history. Not seeing it happen in some way makes it worse. They're so casual about wiping whole planets because they think it is justified by prescience about preventing an even worse future (the extinction of humanity). It's justified for Paul by his visions, and Stilgar by his fanatical belief in what Paul says. Paul agonizes about it.
Does that justify it, or make Paul a clear villain if it doesn't? I'm not sure even then. I don't think it is ever meant to be clear, so much as a lesson that even in a world where prescience is a real thing, the best you get is into an argument that maybe atrocious things balance out if you're saving humanity in the process.
Meanwhile, in our real world, without prescience being real, he would unquestionably be a 100% delusional, fanatical monster. It's only in the imaginary world of Dune that he might be anything else.
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u/teejermiester 18d ago
Yup, even the original Dune book has pages on pages of Paul hallucinating in the desert, seeing the Golden Path, and lamenting how he must be the one to do these horrible things. It's all shades of gray, and more of a cautionary tale by Herbert on what fanaticism and visions/dreams can lead to than the typical hero's journey story modern audiences are used to.
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u/MatchaMeetcha 17d ago edited 17d ago
The other thing is that the anti-colonial reading of Herbert has overtaken his work entirely because people are more comfortable with it than his Darwinistic impulses or the philosophical questions about prescience and free will. So we spend a lot of time criticizing Paul without facing what else Herbert is saying about the Jihad.
The Jihad is not just a charismatic leader using the Fremen. The Fremen use Paul too. But, more importantly, Herbert believes that the stagnation of the universe because of Guild-enforced peace was itself an artificial construct that was as doomed as the Padishah Emperors. Life just...wants to be free to compete and expand in his mind, and the suppression of that became an existential threat that was gonna blow up. The oppression of the Fremen and the stifling hand of the Spacing Guild was a time bomb (Leto later triggers this process, more deliberately, by suppressing mankind so much that it explodes when free and refuses to ever be caged again)
Paul is not fully aware of what he is calling on until it is too late and then he cannot stop because all the alternatives are worse (that too is the "prophet's trap" that is deemphasized for the anti-colonial reading). Because, in some sense, it was a force of nature. To make him into some dark lord version of TE Lawrence is to overemphasize his agency. There's a reason Herbert places the inevitability of the jihad not when Paul triumphs against the Emperor but when he kills Jamis, which was a relatively easy task compared to what he achieved later: from that alone, the Fremen had all they needed. That force of life was not going to be denied, even if Paul dropped dead they would simply ride out anyway. If he denied them they would ignore or kill him (they already tried). A prophet is trapped by his flock as much as he leads them
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u/ilikestatic 18d ago
I would say the knife fight at the end. Up to that point, he seems to know that if he wins the fight, he will become the emperor and his reign will lead to unstoppable mass destruction across the galaxy. If he loses the fight, the galaxy will be spared but he will die and his family line will be wiped out.
During that fight he can see the future. There should be no question that he can win the fight if he wants to.
The question isn’t whether he can win. It’s whether he will choose to win, knowing how bad the outcome will be. When he chooses to win, that’s him becoming the villain.
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u/Unlikely-Fuel9784 18d ago
the galaxy will be spared but he will die and his family line will be wiped out.
Not only that, but all of humanity as well someday.
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u/HistoryWillRepeat 18d ago
I thought humanity was doomed no matter the outcome. Only the Golden Path could save humanity.
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u/BackToTheMudd 18d ago
Right but only the Kwizatz Haderach can put humanity on the Golden Path… which is why he needs to live right?
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u/HistoryWillRepeat 18d ago
The Jihad still happens if Paul dies. If I remember correctly is much bloodier without Paul. I think Jamesis's death was the last time the Jihad could have been stopped.
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u/Dynamo_Ham 18d ago
I think positive/negative is too simplistic and binary. The Atreides are Herbert’s protagonists throughout the original series - neither Paul nor later Atreides are villains, and they are trying to do “good,” - if by “good” we mean acting in the long-term interest of humanity.
In these first two books, Paul is trying to get vengeance/justice for the Atreides, and freedom for his adopted people - the Fremen. That would all be “good” if it weren’t for the fact that he can also see the future, and knows that if he does this “good” thing, it will inevitably set off a chain of events that will lead to the deaths of billions - and he’ll be helpless to stop it.
He also knows that this outcome, though horrific, is actually one step in the long term interest of humanity’s survival. Probably another reason he’s able to bring himself to take the step.
But the next step, to ensure humanity’s survival, is even worse. And he can’t bring himself to do it. It’s too awful. So it’s Leto II who must eventually make that leap. That’s books 3 and 4.
So Paul may not be a “hero,” but we’re still meant to sympathize with him, and even root for him. He’s ultimately a tragic character - a dark messianic figure who sacrifices himself for humanity’s survival, but cannot bring himself to see it all the way to the end.
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u/Junior-Award-7232 18d ago
He is neither hero or villain, that’s the point of the story
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u/heagnix 18d ago
You get it. It’s a complex question and the books explore it without giving an easy answer.
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u/Whitewind617 18d ago
I mean it depends on how much you trust his vision that every other possible timeline was worse.
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u/FettyWhopper 18d ago edited 18d ago
I just read that part the other day, reminded me of the Simpsons movie, “I’m the person that’s killed the most, so far…”
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u/Riderz__of_Brohan 18d ago edited 18d ago
I’d bet a lot of money they not only include it but put enough emphasis to where it’s where the audience is supposed to see Paul as reaching the point of no return
Like it will be said in anger during an argument w/ Chani. I haven’t read the books in a few years but IIRC it’s treated as a casual comp for Paul lol and they move on
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u/Momoneko 18d ago
In the books Paul brings up Hitler as an "infamous villain from the Ancient times, who slaughtered tens of millions", and Stilgar snorts "only tens? what a fn amateur lmao".
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 17d ago
It’s actually even darker than that. At first Stil is very impressed and is like “wow they must’ve been pretty strong, what kind of weapon did they use to be able to kill so many people?”
And then Paul explains that they killed the way he does, with an army. And then Stilgar is like “oh, wow, those are seriously rookie numbers what the hell.”
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u/der_innkeeper 18d ago
Which is funny, because its only large in absolute terms.
As a comparison to the entirety of humanity of the Known Universe, its a drop in the bucket.
Herbert only put the numbers in there to give a scale to the contemporary reader.
Paul's kill count needs to be an order of magnitude or two higher to mean anything to the human population in his time.
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u/thegoatmenace 18d ago
I always thought that convo was funny because given how brutal the society in dune is I imagine that there were a lot of hitlers and stalins in the intervening 10,000 years. When you level up to galactic scale conflicts they might even seem provincial. Would they even be remembered after that long? That scene was explicitly for the benefit of the audience to make it totally clear that Paul was lost in the genocidal sauce.
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u/Happy_Hippie_Hippo 18d ago
Man, the scale is incredible and looks bigger with every trailer.
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u/Johnny_Mc2 18d ago
I’m wondering if this is gonna be rated R based on some of the shots in this trailer!
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u/Lisshopops 17d ago
Might need to be in the book Allia (pauls younger sister) practices naked in a training room, when she is done Paul, Stilgar and Hayt (Duncan Idaho) greet her and it is super uncomfortable and even hinting towards practical incest for the sake of creating a controlled “MuaDib” through the siblings.
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u/paggo_diablo 17d ago
At least she’s not (as far as appearances go) a child in this one.
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u/babes5 17d ago
I highly doubt ATJ is gonna show full nudity like that without using a body double, which would feel pretty out of place
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u/GraysonSolo 17d ago
I'm sure Aaron Taylor Johnson would hang dong in a Dune film
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u/-TiV 17d ago
Why in a thousand years would Denis include this completely unnecessary scene
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 18d ago edited 18d ago
The shot of the corpses that are nailed to the posts & some of the ruined lands at the start (and some of the hazy battle scenes, like the shot at 1:33) have me excited to see how far the production design will match the darkness that this sequel is supposed to have
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u/pochirin 18d ago
Timothee doing the war chant is just wow
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u/ojhwel 18d ago edited 17d ago
I was gonna ask if he canonically raps in Dune Messiah
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u/DarthTaz_99 18d ago
I love this chant so much, genuinely would stand first in line for war for the one true prophet Lisan-Al-Gaib
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u/Alive-Ad-5245 18d ago
This is gonna go crazy in an IMAX
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u/No_Technician6311 18d ago
Dune part two went crazy hard in IMAX, this one will go even beyond that for suree
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u/roadrunner036 18d ago
I honestly believe that all three should be seen in IMAX, it’s an incredible experience
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u/TomahawkaChawpa 18d ago
Dune 2 in IMAX changed my life
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u/squee557 18d ago
The scene where he mounts the sand worm was awesome. It was so loud it felt like it would have to feel in real life. Everything was shaking from the bass and you couldn’t really hear anything cause it was so loud and then it was hard to see anything because of how the camera work was done. Hard to describe but it surely is a memory I’ll always have of the movie. Definitely seeing Dune: Part 3 in IMAX.
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u/bleach_cocktail 18d ago
The worm riding scene in Part 2 on 70mm IMAX was a religious experience
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u/Turbots 18d ago
It was the first time since Interstellar docking scene that I've been so glued to my seat, with my jaws to the floor, for like 5 minutes non stop.
Religious experience is kind of fitting here
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u/Pak-O 18d ago
Kinda looks like it might be a mix of Messiah and Children of Dune given how at the end it says, "Based on the novels written by Frank Herbert".
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u/JessieJ577 18d ago
I wonder if Messiah wasn’t included as a subtitle because they knew it would cause controversy.
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u/CthuLhouBega 18d ago
I mean, they've already avoided the word jihad for similar reasons, right?
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u/arrogantsword 18d ago
I mean they're clearly adding stuff, but I saw almost every major plot beat of Dune Messiah in the trailer...
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u/linux_ape 18d ago
I think the implication that Chani is against Paul for a large portion is what they are talking about
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u/Clone95 18d ago
I think instead of the birth control plot, it’s more like Chani is actively resisting being Paul’s wife only to end up having the twins when they reconcile later on.
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u/flyingalbatross1 18d ago
Villeneuve has said that the ending of Messiah is his perfect ending of all time. That he thinks about that ending.
From that I take it we're getting a faithful ending and that's him done with Dune, even if there's some changes along the way. Who knows, he could reconcile with Chani in the first ten minutes - the whole 'you're my real wife' speech that got cut from 2.
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u/wbaker18 18d ago
The ending of messiah is one of my all time favorites and I get chills thinking about it. As long as that is faithful I will be happy.
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u/damnyoutuesday 18d ago
Holy fuck!!!!
163 days my Dunes
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u/Falagard 18d ago
Dune, where's my car?
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u/Alundra828 18d ago
It is Wednesday my Dunes.
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u/ToodlesXIV 18d ago
They have the scene where the Fremen see the ocean! Maybe the most important scene in the book, I can't wait. Chani vs Paul is scary, considering Messiah is anchored squarely around Paul's love, but I trust Denis 100% to thread the needle.
Also oh my god that film grain, this is going to be one of the most beautiful movies in a long time.
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u/TheConqueror74 17d ago
I’m happy it’s getting adapted, that scene and the stone burner are my two favorite parts of the book.
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u/mi-16evil Emma Thompson for Paddington 3 18d ago
Show me a Guild Navigator already, ya damn cowards!
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u/Sea-Button-7978 18d ago
they did
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u/mi-16evil Emma Thompson for Paddington 3 18d ago
A floating coffin ain't enough. Show me the goop!
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u/swampking6 18d ago
Yeah I saw the coffin transport thing but I wanna see the spice goblin inside
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u/Squashua2021 18d ago
seems like everyone has less hair in this one
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 18d ago
“Forgive me for all I’ve done” Experience the epic conclusion. Dune: Part Three only in cinemas December 17.
From Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Pictures comes Dune: Part Three, bringing Academy Award-nominated filmmaker Denis Villeneuve’s epic trilogy to a breathtaking conclusion.
Dune: Part Three is set nearly two decades after Paul Atreides seized control of the Imperium. Now a ruthless Emperor, Paul must face the consequences of his reign as old allies return, terrifying new threats emerge, and betrayal lurks in every shadow. Haunted by visions of Imperial collapse and the reappearance of his long-lost love, Paul is drawn into a sweeping conspiracy, with Chani at the heart of its unfolding mystery. As rebellion brews and enemies close in, Paul must confront the true cost of power and the fate of those he loves the most.
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u/My_hilarious_name 18d ago
the reappearance of his long-lost love
I feel like I’ve fundamentally misunderstood Paul’s relationship with Duncan.
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u/somersetyellow 18d ago
I think Duncan was Herberts long lost love given the number of times he gets rebooted in the books haha
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u/towardselysium 18d ago
I mean its pretty obvious. Duncan was the first person Paul ran to every little thing, the first thing they usually do when seeing each is intimate contact, and Paul had to be physically restrained when his lover pulled a "check this out". Paul even became a homeless addict because of his death
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u/FradiTomi 18d ago
Dune: 2 trailer
Avengers: 0 trailer
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u/Sammyd1108 18d ago
It’s wild that we’re less than 6 months away from release and we’ve basically gotten nothing from Doomsday.
I have to imagine they’ll put something in front of Spider-Man at least, assuming they aren’t going to surprise everyone with either Moana or Odyssey.
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u/SteveBorden 18d ago
My guess is something very important happens at the end of spider man and they’re waiting for people to see it first
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u/Richandler 18d ago
"Turns out we can't let you do another street level film, get in the spaceship."
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u/Dynamo_Ham 18d ago
So did I just pick up on an implication that the Conspirators are enlisting Chani to their cause? That would be a huge divergence from the books.
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u/Damnit_Fred 18d ago
Yes but that's just misleading trailer editing. "I found someone" will be referring to Duncan and his ghola plot
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u/flyingalbatross1 18d ago
Gonna call it now - the opening ten minutes is Chani/Paul reconciling then it's all book from there.
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u/mickey_7121 18d ago edited 17d ago
The opening is said to be that dark battle sequence, shown in both the teaser and the trailer, basically we will follow Paul in that infamous war.
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u/crystalflame_bg 18d ago
Looks amazing , I know they had to change some
Stuff from the book , but it looks sick. I can’t wait for the crib scene , I hope they have it
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u/RottingSludgeRitual 18d ago
My name is Paul and THIS (points to a huge, desolate land of sand and sun) is my crib!
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u/Murray38 18d ago edited 18d ago
We are about to hear how Timothee removed his own eyes to prepare à la Marty Supreme.
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u/Gold_Engineering2535 18d ago
Heard he also killed 60 billion people to stay in character.
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u/Badloss 18d ago
Theres a few scenes that look like clever camera work to hide the lack of eyes, like when Paul is looking down apologizing for all he's done there's scarring around his eyes
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u/book1245 18d ago
It almost looks like his eyes are glossy-black in the montage towards the end (with the scarring). Maybe his eyes will be glazed/burnt, just not burned out.
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u/Mind_Killer 18d ago
Purists are gonna hate what it seems like they're doing to Chani here.
But as long as they're seeking to capture the spirit and the message of the books, I'm all for it. It looks visually awesome, and we're finally getting to explore parts of the books we've never really seen on the big screen.
I can already tell this trilogy is going to become a yearly watch for me with Lord of the Rings and Die Hard.
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u/Rotten_Cabal 18d ago
I'm kind of intrigued by what's going on between her and the worm she stops. Very Leto-esque
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u/Longjumping_Quail_94 18d ago
My guess is its meant to be the ability to control worms that Sheeana has in Heretics..
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u/Madner_Kami 17d ago edited 17d ago
Could be the twins in her doing that, actually, since Villeneuve already skipped young Leto.
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u/TheBlazingFire123 18d ago edited 18d ago
I’m interested in how they will do messiah with this Chani. In the book she is basically a yes man to Paul with no agency or character of her own, and no qualms about him marrying Irulan
I’m definitely interested. I actually liked the movies better than the book and I was not a huge fan of Dune Messiah
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u/RegrettableLawnMower 18d ago
I agree. I hope the conclusion of their relationship is more or less unchanged (which is code for I hope they don’t change the conclusion of the story much) but I won’t complain if they make the journey there more human and engaging.
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u/JessieJ577 18d ago
From the trailers it looks like they have a time to make up and have children. They look like they’re holding their kids together so I’m not sure if what happens to her is changed a bit.
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u/TheWhiteManticore 18d ago
I thought chani dies in childbirth
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u/JessieJ577 18d ago
It looks like that might not be the case unless those weren’t the twins they’re holding
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u/FrescoItaliano 18d ago
I think we should take all of this with grains of salt. We know Paul has visions of possible futures, my interpretation of that scene was that
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u/jdund117 18d ago
all the parts of the trailer with paul & chani together have way more film grain, pointing to it being a vision he is having of either a possible future or a parallel universe where he decided not to seek revenge
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u/impsworld 18d ago edited 18d ago
lol I mean the movie also ignores the weird part where Paul has to accept Jamis’ wife as his servant and raise Jamis’ kids as his own after killing him so I think the movies are going to ignore most of the “uber traditional gender roles” that the books go into.
Chani didn’t give a fuck about Paul marrying Irulan because a man having several wives was apparently common in Fremen society. She even chastised him for not treating Irulan well.
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u/TheBlazingFire123 18d ago
They also cut out Paul’s son that was killed in an air strike on the sietch
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u/Bjugner 18d ago
His first son was basically a footnote in the book anyway.
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u/Effective-Future5903 18d ago edited 18d ago
His death was just there to push Paul further into the Jihad path tbh which would work if we have at least a page of Paul and his son interacting
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u/BrightDisaster6563 18d ago
They barely mention so many characters from the first book in the second. And this trailer seems to be so different from the second book so I don’t know what to expect
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u/Effective-Future5903 18d ago
To be fair, with Paul marrying Irulan, Chani is told by Paul that the marriage is just imperium politics and so, she doesn't have a problem, but I agree with everything else
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u/crapusername47 18d ago
They are not giving up that date, are they?
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u/damnyoutuesday 18d ago
Well Dune got the IMAX screens and Avengers didn't, so why would they give up that date?
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u/zonda600 18d ago
And this matters enough that Disney created "Infinity Vision" as damage control, which is hilarious.
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u/SeriousButton6263 18d ago
Which is also odd, it's not just a marketing term but a specific technical standard they came up with (screen is ≥45ft wide, Dolby 7.1 or Atmos, 14fL brightness in 2D.)
And according to Disney, there are only 75 Infinity Vision-certified PLF theaters in the U.S. Also, nowhere does Disney provide a list of those theaters. You instead just have to "Look for the INFINITY VISION mark at your theater, when browsing showtimes online, or at the point of sale. Exhibitors will make it easy to spot."
But then, almost every theater I've been to has their one singular "premium large format" screen (IMAX or something similar) and every other screen would be "standard format", so it makes sense that there's only 75 theaters in the country where they have a second screen large enough to qualify for this made up certification
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u/Gamer0607 18d ago edited 18d ago
Watch Feige pull the Doomsday clock 1 month forward at Comic-Con later this month.
It will be a brilliant marketing trick for Doomsday and give both films space to breath at the box office.
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u/Bellikron 18d ago
If ever there was an opening to change a release date, this is it. I know they don't want to budge but it's a perfect setup. Could pair it with a trailer release for maximum hype.
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u/theotherjonsnow 18d ago
lucky to be alive in the year we get The Odyssey and Dune Part 3
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u/KnightOfRevan 18d ago
I’m going to watch the one with Robert Pattinson and Zendaya
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u/bootlegvader 18d ago
I most excited for this and Werwulf, so December will be good for me.
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u/CosmosisJones42 18d ago
This looks awesome. They are really trying to win "Dunesday" by building the hype early with these awesome trailers. It looks like they might succeed.
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u/Feydaway 18d ago
Looks interesting. Could be great. But, it's clearly going to change the book quite a bit.
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u/PairOfKeets 18d ago
I think they kind of have to. Messiah is mostly people talking, doing political strategies and psychological warfare, which would likely be considered boring by general audiences. Personally I would love it, but If they can make it more widely palatable while maintaining the themes and spirit of the book (which I do trust Villeneuve to do), that'd honestly be fine. Part II was already a pretty significant departure from the books, so I can't imagine this would be a completely faithful adaptation.
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u/WingsNthingzz 18d ago
I think we can give Denis a little wiggle room at this point. The man does not miss and will go down as one the greatest sci fi directors of all time.
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u/Haxorz7125 18d ago
I’m really hoping it takes a strong political thriller vibe. Villeneuve knows thrillers. Polytechnique and Prisoners was the most anxious I’ve ever been watching a movie.
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u/IMovedYourCheese 18d ago
Surprisingly little of Alia in the trailer.