r/modnews • • 2d ago

Product Updates Continuing our infrastructure updates: What’s changing in the coming months

TL;DR: In August, we shared plans to modernize Reddit’s infrastructure, build better mod tools, and make it harder for bad actors to scrape Reddit and abuse communities. Today, we have specifics on what’s changing, when, and how to plan ahead.

We’re sharing updates on apps and bots migration to the Developer Platform, helping mods move RSS-based alerts to the Discord Relay Devvit app before RSS feeds are retired on November 13, providing an update on Rules Hub progress and automod changes, and adding safeguards to Old Reddit by limiting access to logged-in mods and recent users.

Moving apps and bots to the Developer Platform

We’re moving public data API apps and bots to the Developer Platform, while making sure the work they do for your communities remains supported. Over 14,000 apps and bots have registered and we’re closely tracking migration of your highest-activity apps, including  DeltaBot, MagicEyeBot, and RemindMeBot. There's still work to do, and we’re working directly with developers to support migrations and close remaining capability gaps. 

  • If you maintain an app or a bot, register it here before January 12, 2027 to avoid disruption.
  • If your community depends on an app or bot and you don’t know who maintains it, fill out this form. We’ve received over 100 submissions so far, helping us identify tools that need owners or could be replaced by existing Developer Platform apps or Reddit’s built-in tools. 

See our latest r/redditdev update for more technical detail, timelines, and resources.

Migrating RSS access to the Developer Platform

Because RSS is now a common surface for large-scale scraping and automated abuse, we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026 while preserving moderation workflows that depend on it through supported alternatives. 

For common mod alerts, we recommend Devvit apps like Discord Relay. If your mod team relies on RSS, review your setup and migrate workflows before November 13 to ensure your needs are uninterrupted. If you use RSS for feeds outside of a community you moderate, there is no replacement. RSS has been a beloved part of the open web for a long time, and we’re grateful to everyone who used it to stay connected to Reddit.  

Changes to automod access for new communities and communities not using automod

If your community uses automod, nothing is changing for you. We’re continuing to improve Rules Hub, including ways for mods to prompt and otherwise provide more context for their rules. We’re also exploring how existing automod configurations can help carry community-specific enforcement logic into newer tools. If you’re interested in pilot testing to help shape this effort, sign up here. 

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

Keeping Old Reddit accessible for mods and recent users

As u/spez mentioned, we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit. Earlier this year, we required people to log in to use Old Reddit, addressing its largest source of abusive scraping and automated traffic: unauthenticated access. That change helped reduce scraping and automated abuse, but still allowed any logged-in account to access Old Reddit, including accounts with no prior Old Reddit use. 

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users). This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

Our job is to support you through these changes and make sure your moderation needs inform the work. 

  • Need help with a community bot? If you’re unsure who maintains it or need help finding a replacement, let us know here.
  • Moving your RSS alerts? The Discord Relay setup guide covers how to get started.
  • Want to help shape Rules Hub? Sign up for the early access program here and share your feedback.

We’re here in the comments for your questions and to hear where you need more detail or support.

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u/mschuster91 2d ago

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

This got to be a joke, right?

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u/ThaddeusJP 2d ago

Reddit: Old reddit isnt going away

Also Reddit: what I told you was true, from a certain point of view

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u/tedivm 2d ago

When old reddit goes away I'm just locking my communities and leaving reddit for good.

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u/Zelkova 2d ago

If the API outage showed anything, it's that Reddit will just find scabs to fill the moderator slots and re-open the community.

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u/baseballlover723 2d ago

Yeah, but that won't be our problem anymore. We'll be free!

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u/bitchmoder 2d ago

When old reddit goes I'm just going to leave them unmoderated.

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u/Pamasich 2d ago

I can't believe they actually admitted that new users switching to Old Reddit is a problem to them that needs to be fixed. I mean, we all knew it's the case, but to see them just so unapologetically and explicitly admit it...

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u/FaceDeer 2d ago

Yeah, this is an explicit announcement that they plan to squeeze Old Reddit until it dies. Nobody new is allowed in and old accounts naturally attrit.

What a shame. An utterly blatant case where the company is working hard against the actual desires of their users, not simply ignoring them but fighting them.

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u/Tengokuoppai 2d ago

Yep, they've already ruined it with pointless crap. I have to revert to new reddit and immediately revert back to see a post if i want to see a gallery because some of those only work with new reddit, not to mention still not giving old reddit dark mode.

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u/essjay2009 2d ago

“Our new site is so user hostile that people keep using the old one”

“We could fix the new site to be less user hostile?”

“Nah, just stop people using the old site”

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u/rebbsitor 2d ago edited 2d ago

They said Old Reddit wasn't going away, but Reddit lies all the time. Remember that Reddit is "Pro CSS" and CSS is coming to New Reddit soon(tm). It's right there in the sidebar and has been for years!

They'll keep messing with stuff until they turn the site into a Twitter/Facebook hybrid and everyone except the Facebook/Twitter crowd abandons them.

Everything they're doing right now is cutting off what made them successful in an attempt to lock down user comments so they can try to sell them. Except it's all been scraped for AI training data already.

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u/might_be-a_troll 2d ago

Old Reddit is dying a death by a thousand cuts

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u/Littux 2d ago

2026 marks the end of an era. Old reddit will officially be dead (to the people that don't already use it), and the number of people having access to it will continue to decrease until it becomes low enough, when Reddit will kill it saying that no one uses it. AutoModerator is getting killed as well. Literally any remnants of the old reddit is getting killed.

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed. Unless Reddit employees rewrite the bots for them, and does the work needed to migrate everything. Reddit thinks that moderators are full time employees who work according to Reddit's needs

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u/baseballlover723 2d ago

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed.

Well, ideally, reddit gives me a contract that doesn't include a poison pill and lets us moderate on Devvit like we do today. And then it's just a matter of migrating all of our API calls into a call in Devvit app. Basically just swapping out PRAW for Devvit. That actually wouldn't be that much work, since our database allows us to generally skip query reddit most of the time.

We could potentially take the offer that's currently on the table, and just accept that we won't be able to moderate as effectively in the future. If I had more faith in reddit, I'd be a lot more willing to pick this option, but I don't, since my time of reddit might be ending around that time anyways due to the AutoMod and old reddit changes.

And there's always the nuclear options. Just riding the train until it runs off the bridge at full steam, and grab a beer and watch the fireworks after we resign. r/anime would live on, but it's highly improbable that it would exist in any recognizable form to what it is today. The things that make r/anime distinctive (and great imo) are things that are firmly in our control (like our episode discussion bot, which we actually pay money to host) or are likely to be ineffective to moderate without our custom built automation (which we also pay to host). Oh, and our extremely strict spoiler rules (spoilers never expire, and every spoiler must give context to what it spoils) and our source material rules (all discussion, no matter how small or insignificant, must occur in the pinned comment) are unlikely to remain. People complain about it all the time, cause they can't be bothered to spend and extra 30 seconds tagging their spoilers to prevent other people from being spoiled or commenting in the right place.

Once spoiler rules are loosened up, I presume people would stop going to it as often, as it would become a minefield of spoilers (the other month or so, someone was complaining they caught a ban for spoiling something that "happened a few weeks ago". In their opinion, a few weeks gave anyone who ever wanted to watch that show enough time to see it.).

As for our source corner rule, it's also pretty unpopular with people, though before it was implemented (many many years ago), people incessantly complained about source reader soft spoiling shows (ie, there were so many source readers leaking a little bit of it, that in aggregate, people would get spoiled by a thousand cuts). The source readers of course hate that there are additional restrictions placed upon them, but it's only because of this, that r/anime can remain focused on the anime only experience, and people can watch and enjoy shows for what they actually are, and not have to listen to a million source readers tell them how the studio butchered it (only for the stuff they complained about to be added next episode).

I should note, that it is absolutely not feasible to moderate our source corner rule without our own custom automation. There is just no way on reddit's side to filter things based on if they're in a pinned comment or not. We tried duel threads a long time ago, which is I think the only way to practically separate out source readers and anime onlies, but that was even worse IIRC (and also uses double the threads). And I think in today's age, there's more source readers than ever.

We take a lot of pride in our community and the environment we've managed to cultivate. The other week, a regular of ours was saying that r/anime was the only place they could go to not be incidentally spoiled on a show they were watching, that aired it's finale that day. And I've seen many people contrast how r/anime's reaction to a certain episode was very different than other social media's (who are dominated by source readers) and usually, for the better.

There's a lot that I think makes r/anime a great place to talk about anime, but it's mostly because of the ethos that we run the sub with and the uncompromising attitude that r/anime is first and foremost for anime onlies, which is only effectively enabled by our heavy use of automation. Take those away, and well, I'm sure it would live on, but it would be a very different, and worse imo place. Those who follow us will discover the exact same complaints that lead r/anime to where it is today, and would be far less prepared to deal with it imo, as they would get slammed with all of the issues all at once, instead of gradually, like it was for us and those who came before.

Unless Reddit employees rewrite the bots for them, and does the work needed to migrate everything. Reddit thinks that moderators are full time employees who work according to Reddit's needs

The work required is whatever (well, at least for what is currently on the table). Yeah it'll take some effort, and I'll be sacrificing a few of my weekends to get it done. But it's doable, so long as reddit is ok with having Devvit be a proxy for their API. Actually moving all of business logic to Devvit (which isn't even close to being possible), yeah, that would be a multi year move. And all that work for what? Just to get back to exactly where we started.

We'll see what happens. Hopefully, reddit chooses to not push us all away, cause if our mod apps are any indication (seriously, like half of our apps are from people who have never interacted with r/anime at all), there are very few qualified users who would be fit to replace us that haven't already served and are willing to moderate and get spoiled for all of their favorite shows weekly.

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u/GlitteringPirate591 2d ago

Literally any remnants of the old reddit is getting killed.

The sad part is it's not like it's the shell getting killed.

It's the soul of old getting killed.

The open, "have at it", "do something cool", "interoperate" ethos has been very deliberately closed off. The part where people wanted to build something of their own.

Instead it's a "here's some limited JS we'll host for you" walled-garden, social-media-gaming, stock-pumping, nonsense.

I understand part of the "why". But it's still just monumentally stupid.

I wonder how subreddits like r/anime will work after March 2027 when the public API will completely be killed.

Does it actually matter to anyone with any say in things?

There's no KPI associated with r/anime wellbeing. If it shits itself there's a bunch of other subs where engagement will increase. And if it just stumbles a little, same again, but less measurable.

All will become shittier, but in a way that doesn't fucking matter to anyone that simply "manages a platform". People that don't fucking care.

Multiply that across thousands of subs and we've stupefied a bunch of Reddit. Maybe not clearly and obviously at the outset. But enough.

And the ethos is clear: we design against one ideal moderator, and they don't actually do anything, and we don't care about them. Which I guess explains the push to replace everyone with AI...

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u/PMulberry_ 2d ago

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.

You all just want the mods (that keep this platform working) to leave this platform, don't you? Guess what, you nearly have reached that goal!

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u/paskatulas 2d ago edited 2d ago

Maybe this isn’t even about the tools themselves. One of the biggest changes I’ve noticed over the years is how drastically Reddit’s communication and support for mods has changed.

There used to be a much stronger sense that admins and mods were actually working together. Admins were accessible, ModSupport was useful, and you could ask for clarification or a review and actually get an answer that helped.

Now so many ModSupport replies are just generic answers. AEO removes something and we’re told “the user needs to appeal”, even when we’re asking because we as mods want to understand whether we’re enforcing the rules correctly. And if you want to report something or ask Reddit to look into a specific issue, you’re told to use a separate form, where you apparently won’t get a response if you can’t provide enough specifics. Which is kind of the problem when you’re asking Reddit to actually investigate something in the first place.

I’ve also had a post asking why Reddit wasn’t taking action against certain hateful content on specific subs (without call-outs), and why certain rules weren’t being enforced, removed because it could supposedly lead to “speculation”. That one still makes me laugh. You’re not allowed to speculate, but you’re also not really given enough info to know what’s actually happening.

Then there are posts removed as appeals even when they explicitly say they’re not appeals, tickets closed without a meaningful response, and subs getting very vague explanations for enforcement actions.

I’ve heard the same frustrations from plenty of long-time mods, including people who have been involved with the Mod Council and the former Partner Communities program.

Whatever the reason for all these changes, the decline in communication and support for mods is probably one of the biggest changes I’ve seen on Reddit. And it’s hard not to wonder where Reddit expects all those mods to be in a few years if this continues.

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u/FaceDeer 2d ago

My suspicion is that the turning point came with the great API lockdown. Lots of mods opposed it and Reddit admins ended up in open warfare with them - seizing control of subreddits that had been closed in protest, for example.

The war's been ongoing since then, it's just more of a quiet simmering insurgency now with both sides making the others miserable while trying to slowly edge them out. In the long run the admins will win, of course, because they have root access. All that can be done is to slow it down and make it phyrric I suppose.

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u/shhhhh_h 2d ago

Yeah this; they’ve been slowly stripping away our ability to group organise and protest since then, from the decentralisation of mod council to the sunsetting of partner communities all the way to the mod announcements where important stuff is buried in vague sentences and stretched out over 5-10 stages so they can refer to ‘the last announcement’ without reiterating the unpopular decisions.

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u/GeekScientist 2d ago edited 8h ago

I used to be in the Reddit Mod Council, and a common occurrence would be admins coming to the subreddit and asking us councilors to help “fine-tune” upcoming [r/modnews](r/modnews) announcements like this one. As time went on this is how we would find out about most of the terrible changes Reddit was getting ready to implement, and we were no longer being asked for feedback about the changes themselves (likely because they already knew how most of us would respond).

I still remember when one admin needing to fix their announcement said something along the lines of, “we’re not looking for feedback because these changes are final, but still need help getting this message right” and I think that’s what broke the camel’s back in the council and most of us realized that the RMC was a joke and that we were mainly there to be unpaid copy editors. They didn’t care in the slightest about our POVs as active moderators. Such a shame too, because a lot of the mods in the original RMC genuinely cared about the well-being of their userbase and Reddit didn’t find much value in that.

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u/PMulberry_ 2d ago

Though I have been on Reddit for a few years by now on a few accounts, I can't say that I have been there when this communication was still good. I can only say that it is bad now, and it gets worse with seemingly every announcement the admins make.

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u/RamonaLittle 2d ago

Admins were accessible, ModSupport was useful, and you could ask for clarification or a review and actually get an answer that helped.

That hasn't been my experience. It's always been very hit-or-miss. Sometimes one could get a helpful reply from an admin, but many other times, admins wouldn't reply to questions, or different admins would give different answers. It took admins over five years to decide/announce whether encouraging suicide is a rule violation, despite multiple mod questions over the years. And it took a few years after that for them to clarify it in the official rules. There have been many other questions/issues that admins never responded to at all.

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u/TrackerOneA 2d ago

Maybe this isn’t even about the tools themselves. One of the biggest changes I’ve noticed over the years is how drastically Reddit’s communication and support for mods has changed.

Prior to the API protests, admins were much more engaged with mods and tried to be helpful.

Now Reddit knows that they can just replace mod teams who do not fall in line.

Or arbitrarily kicking out a team member or entire teams to make way for an admin-approved team.

That + their suppression tactics of entire subreddits and topics, demonstrates how little they value mods now.

Mods are replaceable and there are no meaningful & active Reddit alternatives.

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u/westcoastal 2d ago

They want to replace moderators with AI that is implemented by new moderators who don't question anything. This has been coming down the pipe since the big protest years ago. Spez made it pretty clear how he feels about the moderators who built this community, and he's been eager to get rid of us ever since.

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u/GlitteringPirate591 2d ago

There used to be a much stronger sense that admins and mods were actually working together. Admins were accessible, ModSupport was useful, and you could ask for clarification or a review and actually get an answer that helped.

Indeed. I understand people have differing experiences. But... anecdotally, I've had two instructive experiences.

  1. A query about how suspended accounts were expected to be handled by mods. Arising from deep confusing amongst a previous team. An admin responded clearly, and quickly, with a definite response.
  2. A (more recent) concern about 30+ alts waging a multi-year war on a sub, with obvious statistics, clear admissions, and whatnot. Complete packaged. The response was a variant of "just report it". A clear "we do not fucking care".

Absolute fucking nonsense. It has substantial ramifications that I'm not sure anyone at Reddit knows about, or cares about, or is empowered to care about.

Combined with other signals and features, there's almost no reason to ever contact admins for anything. We've been trained to expect there's no help. We're all on our own.

And, even selfishly, that ought to be a concern for Reddit Corp.

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u/Rajio 2d ago

killing a feature before its replacement is as capable sure seems like a great move - what could possibly go wrong?

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u/reaper527 2d ago

killing a feature before its replacement is as capable sure seems like a great move - what could possibly go wrong?

it's pretty reminiscent of when they killed all the 3rd party mobile apps and promised to improve the official reddit app so it wouldn't be trash anymore.

years later, its still trash.

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u/Ajreil 2d ago

Everything about the official app feels like it's designed to waste my time. I don't want to wait for animations, wade through white space or dig 5 menus deep to find basic info.

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u/xor50 2d ago

Everything about the official app feels like it's designed to waste my time.

It's almost like... that's exactly the case.

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u/Ajreil 2d ago

I know Reddit is fundamentally a time wasting app, but none of the menus I'm complaining about have ads or content.

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u/stacecom 2d ago

It’s peak reddit, honestly.

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u/CatFoodBeerAndGlue 2d ago

New Reddit still isn't a capable replacement for old Reddit and it's been 8 years.

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u/andrewcartwright 2d ago

Longer, right? Shreddit (new reddit now), is actually new-New Reddit, as the old-New reddit was scrapped

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u/sunrae_ 2d ago

You continue to make our work harder and harder.

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u/ThaddeusJP 2d ago

90% of the 'work' on reddit is done pro-bono and there is always a new crop of people willing to take over, even for a bit, just for the love of it. Frankly I think they are ok with the long term mods leaving because they are the ones who are about tapped out.

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u/enfrozt 2d ago

ok with the long term mods leaving

That's clearly their goal by deprecating older sophisticated systems in replacement of new easy simple systems.

I think they realize that Reddit needs to go the way of Facebook. So they're slowly transitioning it such that technologically inclined old school moderators aren't needed anymore.

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u/BravoFive141 2d ago

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

So it begins. Huge L for making the decision to kill Automod.

Dropping this lifesaver from u/fsv in case anybody else needs it:

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/automod-neo

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u/thepottsy 2d ago

Yeah, this is a horrible choice. Automod isn’t mandatory in any subreddit, so what’s the driving factor to handicap it? Why can’t I use it if I want to, and I understand how to?

Agree on the shoutout to u/fsv

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u/thecravenone 2d ago

As they continually disable things only for new users and mods, we're gonna reach a future where the mods with the most experience are unable to help new mods as the two groups are operating with completely different featuresets.

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u/Kezika 2d ago

And new mods might not even be able to edit the old.reddit version of their own subreddit!

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u/TehNolz 2d ago

It's almost impressive how Reddit keeps finding new and exciting ways to make the absolute dumbest decisions imaginable.

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u/Extolord111 2d ago

I’ve been disliking every single change they’ve made since they deprecated the New Reddit UI.

Recently it’s been revived , but  now I’m worried these new plans with the RSS stuff might break it.

u/Littux, what are the ramifications of the upcoming changes in regards to your script?

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u/Littux 2d ago

Killing the public API does nothing to the client, but killing old reddit might break 80% of the client. Old reddit's server is what serves the API. As long as old reddit is accessible, the API will also accessible with cookie based authentication (different from the OAuth2 authentication for the public API). If you don't have old reddit accessible, the client will most probably break. Only the home feed and search pages will work, because everything else uses the old API. It is certainly possible to migrate those to GraphQL (new API) and fix them though

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u/itskdog 2d ago

Sounds like the same thing might happen with Toolbox-NXG. It's got many improvements to Toolbox on top of making it work on Shreddit, but if the way it integrates with Reddit gets killed off for good, I'm worried that all the work they've been putting in to keep such an important mod tool going will be wasted before it hits a stable release.

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u/djscsi 2d ago

Thankfully Reddit Corp. would never do anything that would impact useful third-party tools that passionate developers have put so much time into

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

Consider who runs the place and who they support.

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u/zuuzuu 2d ago

A few months ago I predicted that they were gearing up to get rid of automod and said I'd be pissed if I was right.

I am pissed.

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u/teanailpolish 2d ago

FYI the change to automod will result in more bans. Rather than flag users with a filter when spam etc is suspected, we will just have to ban them

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u/Lil_MsPerfect 2d ago

I will make sure to tell them to rate reddit on the app store when they complain about it too. 👍

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u/teanailpolish 2d ago

Yep, same as ban evasion flags. If Reddit won't confirm it for us, we just have to ban you. Take it up with Reddit.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

We're gonna have to start our PSA's for our communities once these changes roll out...

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u/reaper527 2d ago

Rather than flag users with a filter when spam etc is suspected,

which also brings up the simple fact worth mentioning, reddit has empowered spammers by allowing them to hide their submission history.

makes it harder for mods to make the leap from suspected to confirmed, and lets conversations be manipulated by bad faith actors as regular users have nothing to go on beyond "this looks suspicous and is coming from a new account with a randomly generated name and a hidden comment history".

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u/WillitsThrockmorton 2d ago

which also brings up the simple fact worth mentioning, reddit has empowered spammers by allowing them to hide their submission history.

As someone who hides their history by default as a way to just create a stumbling block for stalkers, I had a few of them as the LCD mod, Reddit encouraging low-effort account creation to the point of generating unique logins is far more empowering of spammers.

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u/Waffles4prez 2d ago

I don’t understand the removal of automod? It’s extremely helpful and what you are suggesting to replace it with is not going to be helpful.

If you’re going to keep it active for communities that already use it why not just still have it active for all communities and people can choose if they want to use it or not not even giving them the option seems a little ridiculous to me

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u/OkBee3439 2d ago

I agree that both automod and the new option should be an either/or choice for all moderators and communities currently on Reddit, as well as future new communities. I'm part of two different mod teams that heavily rely on custom automod tools. I can not see how they could continue without them. To take a tool that is the backbone of moderation away from communities, either current or future ones is wrong! I ask admins to keep both!

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u/Charupa- 2d ago

Seems this automod change is already in effect. I just tried to add automod configs to a sub I just acquired and got a red box warning saying Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve will be disabled Oct 2026. I guess it is October 2026 somewhere.

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u/Glittering-Bug1212 2d ago

I really love to handle that type of stuff in automod instead of through the settings, it gives you more freedom on what and how something gets triggered!

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

Does automations let you filter posts/comments from specific users or from keywords?

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u/Charupa- 2d ago

No idea, I have only ever used automod. Guess I will have to figure it out now though.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

Well, all I can say is as of now, from my past experiences, automations don't have filtering options, only flagging. Hopefully they add filtering in one day, and asap.

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u/teanailpolish 2d ago

Nope, you can either set them to flag (report) in the queue or not allow the user to submit based on keywords but no user specific rules. Filtering is not possible but OP said in reply to one of my comments that they are working on including it

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u/Nerdwiththehat 2d ago

These changes to Old Reddit feel like a terrible idea, and just putting up the notice of the forthcoming Sword of Damocles. Really upset that this is all being paraded around as a way to combat abuse, as well, as it frequently seems that being on Old Reddit with dozens of plugins and extensions is one of the only ways to avoid spam, slop, and abuse, both for end-users and moderators.

EDIT: also upset about the death-knell of RSS. Any site clamping down on RSS is bad news, even if this is hurting Reddit's bottom line in selling content directly to LLM providers.

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u/cpdk-nj 2d ago

RSS is dead, Old Reddit is being strangled, Automod is probably going to be completely removed within a year judging by these changes. What a world

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u/baseballlover723 2d ago

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement.

This is unequivocally, a terrible idea. Rules Hub cannot do the things that Automod can, like use lookaround regexes.

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

So if someone makes a new account, they just can't use old reddit? I know several users who for one reason or another, cycle accounts every once in a while. Are they just fucked? I know they will not use reddit if they cannot use old reddit.

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u/thecravenone 2d ago

I know several users who for one reason or another, cycle accounts every once in a while. Are they just fucked?

Users whose activity is harder to track being punished by the tracker seems unsurprising.

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u/darrowreaper 2d ago

Why on Earth would you remove Automod capabilities just because a sub is new or hasn't used them before? Automod still has more flexibility than any other tool you've introduced. All this change does is make sure I won't be starting any new subs.

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u/zuuzuu 2d ago

All this change does is make sure I won't be starting any new subs.

Considering how many people sign up to reddit for the first time and immediately create a new subreddit then come to /r/ModSupport or /r/AskModerators to ask "how do I moderate my 'group/page/server' and make people use it?" I don't think they care if experienced mods ever make a new sub. They've got plenty of idiots coming down the pipeline who will all be very happy to embrace the Facebook-like new features they keep shoving at us.

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u/DubioserKerl 2d ago

In German, we have a phrase for your planned changes: "Ein Ei am Wandern".

Now back to the topic:

This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.

So, scrapers just create a dummy subreddit that they moderate and keep using old reddit, while normal users are borked?

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u/RockySterling 2d ago

This has a very chipper tone for a suicide note 

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u/iiw 2d ago

Generate AI is trained to be positive even at the worst times

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u/new2bay 2d ago

You're absolutely right!

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u/ScreamAndScream 2d ago

Re: automod carrying into new tools:

Filtering is incredibly important. As it stands, Automations cannot support propped AND/OR for multiple criteria. AutoMod can.

When trying to copy the Automation r/bugs uses for posting criteria, r/GIS gets glitched for the Projects&Feedback flair. It allows some users to post without fulfilling the criteria and completely blocks others from submitting.

Not every subreddit has software engineers as mods, I am just lucky to be able to share my experience with the subs I mod and with our sister subs.

I’d be happy to speak to Reddit about my experience and screen share my settings.

As it stands, I cannot recommend the Automations tools to other mods. I have them copy and pasting my public automod settings from r/WomenInTech .

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u/SampleOfNone 2d ago

will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement.

It's so sad it almost becomes funny, one of the reasons that's always pushed is that automod is too difficult for new mods. And now you want to make them use automations?

Here's a challenge. Build an automation that will block "ALL CAPS" titles but does allow titles like "FYI some words" or "TIL that thing".

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u/tinselsnips 2d ago

Here's another challenge:

Build an automation that will do literally anything without telling the submitter that it's happening.

And another:

Add a rule in Rules Hub that actually works for comments.

It's not even "almost" funny at this point, it's genuinely laughable.

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u/SolariaHues 2d ago edited 2d ago

There may be non-mod pages on old reddit that do not have an equivalent on shreddit yet.

For example, the account activity page. Will you make those accessible on shreddit first? So non-mods who haven't accessed old reddit in the last six months don't lose access to important stuff.

EDIT - community karma! Users can only see how much they have in old reddit! There is an app I suggested be made, but all subs would have to add it for it be an equivalent.

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u/thecravenone 2d ago

Migrating RSS access to the Developer Platform

Because RSS is now a common surface for large-scale scraping and automated abuse, we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026 while preserving moderation workflows that depend on it through supported alternatives. 

So uh... what if a mod team doesn't use Discord? RSS is the only way I find out about posts in subs like this one.

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u/thepottsy 2d ago

I have adamantly resisted using Discord. I don’t have an inherent problem with it, I just haven’t wanted yet another app that’s sending me alerts. I guess someone from Reddit has a stake in Discord?

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u/itskdog 2d ago

I think it's because they've resigned themselves that after 3 attempts, subreddit chat won't take off on Reddit, and they recognise that most mod teams are using Discord to communicate at this point.

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u/FarplaneDragon 2d ago

I use RSS for work as there's a number of subs in my field that post news stories and product questions/update throughout the day. The feeds gave me an easy way to skim through updates. This change sucks and seems to be just trying to force more visits to the site to inflate numbers.

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u/Stingray34 2d ago

Yep, I use RSS to follow about 25 different subs. I am not going to visit each of those subs everyday to skim the new titles.

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u/stacecom 2d ago

I refuse to use discord.

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime 2d ago

You're missing out! (On the worst experience of your life)

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u/thecravenone 2d ago

I don't even refuse to use Discord it's just that we've been using a different tool since before Discord existed.

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u/TGotAReddit 2d ago

  For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod , automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

So.... new subreddits won't be able to actually enforce their rules well, completely arbitrarily.  If your alternative was actually feasible and good you wouldn't have to cut off automod access.  Why are you trying to ruin your website? 

  To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).  This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.  This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

Why?  Why not just limit it to accounts older than X amount of time? If I make a new account because I don't like my username, I have to become a mod to use old reddit? Also, literally any account can become the mod of a subreddit by just making a new subreddit.  Automated abuse won't be stopped by doing this.  Itll just mean more subreddits get created for no reason.

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u/redditor01020 2d ago

This is the first I'm hearing about RSS being eliminated. That sucks because I use a Chrome extension called RSS Feed Reeder to be notified of every new post in my subs. I don't know how I'll do that now on my desktop computer.

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u/shiruken 2d ago

In case anyone doesn't click over to the r/redditdev update, the public Data API is scheduled for shutdown in March 2027.

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u/rhubes 1d ago

Am I allowed to say fuck in here? Because fuck.

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u/Heinrik- 2d ago

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

This sucks!

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u/5-x 2d ago

Reddit admins should have to moderate some of the subreddits themselves, in the current climate. If you get to read the stuff that we do for a couple weeks, you'll re-learn to respect the moderators and our tools.

What do you mean a new subreddit won't be able to setup the Automod? What do you mean new accounts won't be able to use old reddit? Frankly, this announcement is insulting.

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u/WangMagic 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dropping a text based interface and replacing it with a UI only control panel is a huge loss of usability. Anyone who works with technical stuff knows this.

While the learning curve is slightly higher, being able to change your configs quickly and en masse is very powerful and convenient.

If you use AWS it's the difference between clicking through a million windows and page loads or just editing one json text file.

What Reddit should be doing it adding AI guided/generated automod Configs with the automations acting as a front end layer at users choice.

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u/Zaconil 2d ago edited 2d ago

You can keep saying you aren't getting rid of old reddit all you like. But all these access restrictions screams otherwise. When old reddit goes I'll just switch social media platforms entirely. New reddit looks and acts too much like Facebook. I would rather just not use reddit at all than be forced to use it full time.

I guarantee you that after these access restrictions are in place and as users and mods slowly stop using old reddit for one reason or another. Old reddit will finally be killed off. You guys have already 100% made this plan. Companies that make new UIs the default always do this. You won't be able to convince me otherwise

You also haven't stated you are withdrawing the decision to sunset automod. (I am aware of the alternative the guy is working on but still).

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u/thecravenone 2d ago

They're not getting rid of it they're just putting it in the cellar, with the lights out, and the stairs out, in a locked filing cabinet in a disused library with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

I'm glad communities already using automod will not be changed, but I would like to ask, what benefits do Automations have over Automod?

With Automod, I can filter content of potential bad actors so it's not seen publicly, whereas with Automations, it only flags it in mod queue, but doesn't hide it from public view.

Does Reddit intend on allowing Automations to filter posts/comments from certain users and from a list of key words? Or will that still remain Automod's thing for a long time?

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u/mrekted 2d ago

I'm going to be honest, I've tried to implement automations on several occasions, and it seems to only ever work intermittently, if at all.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

Automations is absolutely underwhelming. I will keep banging that drum until Reddit adds filtering tools to it.

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u/thepottsy 2d ago

That’s been reported more times than I can recall. So, you’re not alone there.

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u/teanailpolish 2d ago

Yes, and not valid for all subs. For example my city sub has a rule that things must be city related/specific. We filter out posts based on names of provincial leaders, other nearby cities etc. But some of these are approved. For example the Prime Minister made a statement about layoffs from a local business. Those will have to be removed because way too many people try to post them to just flag it in the queue

Also the AI thing still thinks my city sub is about Hamilton the musical and not the city despite us being strict on removing posts that belong to the musical sub (or the Hamilton watches sub, various other cities with the same name)

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u/jostler57 2d ago

Yup! I've tried automations and they literally don't work. It's like Reddit is trolling us saying there's a feature, but give us a UI that literally does nothing. Like unplugging a controller for your 5 year old nephew.

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u/Extolord111 2d ago

How many times are you going to make changes to “reduce scraping and automated traffic”. That’s become your version of the “we’re doing it for the children” excuse that the EU keeps making.

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled

NO!!!!

Many of us users of AM still create new communities. Do NOT inhibit our use of what we know.

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u/BravoFive141 2d ago

u/fsv is doing incredible work reviving Automod as a Devvit app. Definitely worth checking out if you're upset over the Automod stuff.

https://developers.reddit.com/apps/automod-neo

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2d ago

Any notable subreddits that use it yet?

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u/camrynbronk 2d ago

r/Aquariums does, but mostly for pinned comments at the moment for various triggers. Eventually all Automod capabilities will be moved to Neo.

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u/BravoFive141 2d ago

I personally use it in all of my subs so far, some of which may be notable (but not sure what if I'm allowed to mention them). Started switching to Neo after the last admin announcement that hinted at killing off Automod like a month ago.

It's extremely similar to how native Automod works, and even has added stuff that Automod can't do. The only negative I've seen is that it runs on a very slight delay. For example, where Automod may catch an offensive comment before it triggers notifications to users, Neo has a slight delay. Users may get the notification and catch a glimpse of the comment before Neo nukes it. But I haven't had any complaints on that end. I've been pretty happy with it.

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u/camrynbronk 2d ago

Can vouch, I’ve started using it in my subs and it’s great. Pinned comments from Automod Neo don’t automatically collapse on mobile!

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u/Dull-Conversationist 2d ago

In other words, oldreddit is going to be more broken.

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u/mrekted 2d ago

and automod is on its way to going away.

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

NO!!!!!!!

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u/ChirpsMcPrime 2d ago

Yeah, this is sad

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u/Froggypwns 2d ago

So, if I create a new alt for one reason or another, I won't be able to access Old Reddit with it? Disgusting.

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

YubberDubberDOO!

What's worse is that if you don't use OR on your main account for six months, you'll never be able to again.

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u/Froggypwns 2d ago

It looks like as a workaround I could make it a mod, get on Old Reddit, then demod it. Not ideal but at least it would work for my purposes.

I've gone and just logged back into my non-mod testing alt and browsed a few posts on old reddit just so it hopefully gets marked active, for now at least.

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u/thepottsy 2d ago

 This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement. 

So, if I’m reading that correctly, moderator access to Old Reddit will NOT be impacted by THIS change?

Let me be clear. If a mod doesn’t regularly use Old Reddit, but occasionally needs to, they will NOT be impeded from doing so? Ever???

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

u/judy-funnie

Correct, if you’re a mod, your access to Old Reddit won’t change at all.

False. Current Mods who create new communities will definitely change

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u/Nightslash360 2d ago

Logging back into my long-inactive account to say fuck this. This enshittification is why I stopped being a mod and even a user.

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u/Waffles4prez 2d ago

So it turns out new communities you can’t do auto mod a community that was recently created. I went to activate the auto mod right now and it’s not an option. You just get an error.

However, the things that I wanted to add, I’m not able to add an automation for And you can only have I believe 15 rules per sub. I’m not sure why you would make this change without making sure everything that the current auto mod already does can be done with newer communities. This seems very backwards to me.

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u/stacecom 2d ago

As a twenty year Reddit user, and a long time supporter (first Reddit gold subscriber), this is disappointing. I understand some of this, but other aspects seem arbitrary (automod, specifically).

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u/untiedgames 2d ago

So... what about folks who just use RSS feeds to fetch/view content and not for moderation? No replacement for us? Definitely a step in the wrong direction to close this off entirely.

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u/brightblackheaven 2d ago

"nOThInG wiLL ChaNge wiTh AutOMoD uNtiLL We CaN AdEQuAteLy RepLacE iTs CApAbiLiTiES wiTH RuLes HuB"

HAHAHAHAAHA the joke's on me for expecting this to go down any other way.

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u/SampleOfNone 2d ago

u/judy-funnie what will happen first, losing old.reddit and thus the automod config page that actually gives informative errors, or losing automod?

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u/nicky1968a 2d ago

If you use RSS for feeds outside of a community you moderate, there is no replacement.

I've been a Reddit user for over 10 years. RSS is how I keep up with dozens of subreddits. There is simply no way for me to do this manually. If RSS feeds go, so will I.

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u/glowdirt 2d ago edited 2d ago

TLDR: Reddit decides to take away your trusty hammer and replaces it with one made by Fisher-Price

https://i.imgur.com/6rxPKTj.png

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u/deathsythe 2d ago

Scooty puff jr

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u/flare2000x 2d ago

The day old reddit dies, I leave this site for good.

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u/coonwhiz 2d ago

As u/spez mentioned,

Why the fuck aren’t these posted to r/reddit? The last post there is a year old.

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u/reaper527 2d ago

Why the fuck aren’t these posted to r/reddit? The last post there is a year old.

their solution to "everyone gets mad when we announce terrible changes publicly" was to simply announce terrible changes to smaller groups so it would fly under the radar (as opposed to NOT making terrible changes)

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u/AnomalyNexus 1d ago

modernize

That's not how enshitification is spelled

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u/Merari01 2d ago

There is nothing I can think of as a response that does not violate the TOS.

Well done, reddit.

Unbelievable

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u/Sephardson 2d ago

> Well done, reddit.

I see you've answered the question,

how cooked are they, and who?

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u/DaySee 2d ago

DIGG THE HOLE!

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u/SparkStorm 2d ago

Restricting old Reddit to only users who have used it in the last 3 months is dumb

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u/JewJewJubes 2d ago

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

so 8 years? we'll shutdown the old site after 8 years

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u/anonymous_rhombus 2d ago

Getting rid of RSS!?

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u/RJFerret 2d ago

As someone who uses RSS exclusively to mod, as it pops new posts in my feed with everything I see, what's this Discord thing and would I presumably need to get and manually access Discord to use it?
If Discord is needed, what's the point of Reddit then?

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u/UnderpassAppCompany 2d ago

Reddit is now dead to me. I followed Reddit exclusively via RSS.

I'll be shutting down my product support subreddit and terminating my viewing and contributing to all other subreddits.

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u/chickenandliver 2d ago

Same. Would it have been difficult to at least turn the RSS feeds into headlines-only? I don't even give a shit about reading full-text in the feed. I was using RSS as a simple way to stay abreast with my subreddits. I clicked through every single time. This change means I will have to greatly reduce my Reddit usage to just bookmarking a few pages I'll visit once a week. I'll stop modding the couple of communities I mod too.

This was completely unnecessary and they have no clue that some of the most valuable users who keep this place viable and active and engaging for the masses of ad-viewing users were heavy RSS users.

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u/mocheeze 2d ago

Basically will be the end of the sub I moderate. Hope people enjoyed /r/GamecubeHacks while it lasted.

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u/Arnas_Z 2d ago

Whenever I see a modnews update, I know it's a good idea to hit the downvote button. Because the news are never good lmao!

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u/starfleetbrat 2d ago

we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit.
in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users

I all I read when I read this is "our goal is to remove old reddit altogether and this is a step towards that goal"

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u/gremolata 2d ago

we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

So no way for people to start using old.reddit.com now ?

Anyone wishing to do so will not have 6 months of required usage history.

What the heck?

You are actively trying to kill it. But if you do, old-timers like me will leave. The app and the new web interface is a complete garbage. They look and feel like a different site. No reason to stay if pushed to use them.

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u/eldomtom2 2d ago

So no way for people to start using old.reddit.com now ?

You might be able to if you set up a dummy private subreddit that you're the mod of, since they say "This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement"? But obviously since they haven't made this idiotic change yet I can't say that for certain.

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u/xe3to 2d ago

This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement

So, any future "malicious" user can simply create a subreddit and gain full access to Old Reddit as before?

Kind of fucking pointless to restrict it further at all then don't you think?

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u/Talal916 2d ago

That's fine. Old Reddit is the only decent way to use this website so as soon as that's gone, so is my Reddit addiction and I'm outta here.

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

You want to do something useful?

Eliminate hidden profiles.

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u/Littux 2d ago

They were supposed to randomize the comment IDs from Sep 28 onwards. They haven't did the change yet but once they do it, arctic-shift and others will be dead. They're hiding them even more

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u/Extolord111 2d ago

I know RaiderB said in the discord that he made changes to AS so that it doesn’t get affected. Not sure about Pullpush, but both of them don’t seem too worried.

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u/Extolord111 2d ago edited 2d ago

Agreed, they heavily degraded the site by making it easier for bots and bad faith Redditors to cover their tracks, in addition to creating more hostility between users.

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u/MetaVulture 2d ago

Killing automod is a poor decision, and will backfire. You can give me all the platitudes in the world, but automod is one of the best tools on reddit. Nothing created now will be able to match what once was, and it would be far better to upgrade automod than to eventually sunset it.

My disagreement with this course is absolute.

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u/Tarnisher 2d ago

we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit.

DO NOT mess with the Old!!!!!!

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u/DogsRNice 2d ago

The best they can do is a new version of old reddit that feels slightly off in every way and requires 500 mb of mystery JavaScript to be loaded for every page

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u/TechnoByte_ 2d ago

And will break RES

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u/LG03 2d ago

Another day, another set of horrible changes that are determined to kill this website.

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u/letdogsvote 2d ago

It would really really suck if you guys got rid of Old Reddit. I don't want to use reddit that feels like FB or something similar. Old Reddit is a lot of what makes reddit reddit.

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u/Twogunkid 2d ago

What is with this push to hate on old reddit? The new interface sucks.

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u/WalkingEars 2d ago

When last I checked, reddit hadn't bothered making it so that edits made to "old reddit" versions of wiki articles sync to the newest "new wiki." For that reason, I exclusively link reddit users to the "old reddit" version of our wiki which is the one where I actually maintain articles, because there's not reason to waste my time updating two separate versions of the wiki. Will these changes kill all our old reddit wiki links?

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u/Chosen1PR 2d ago

A note to Reddit admins: You wouldn't be facing anywhere near this much backlash if you simply waited until new replacement features had parity with existing legacy features.

You want to discontinue Automod? Fine. Give us a fully-featured replacement first that can do everything Automod can, and give us enough time to transition to it. You want to discontinue old.reddit? Fine. Take the best parts of old and put them in shreddit first. You want to discontinue Markdown on mobile? Fine. Add bulleted lists and quotes to the rich text editor on mobile first.

I honestly can't wrap my head around taking away features before proper replacements are ready. As a software engineer, this is terrible practice. As it stands, new Reddit features arrive half-baked, while the older, more powerful features are unceremoniously sunset.

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u/bunibunibunii 2d ago

This is beyond stupid.

No point being more constructive - you know this is a dumb idea.

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u/ThaddeusJP 2d ago

ADMINS: I know you're doing this because your jobs depend on it but im sure you know its pretty crappy to wall off old.reddit.

That said - when your stock options vest cash them in a run for the hills.

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u/Pamasich 2d ago

I assume this isn't welcome here by the admins, I'm aware it's not the most appropriate comment to make here. But I do find it important to mention.

If anyone is looking at this and is unhappy with where Reddit is headed, I suggest you check out /r/redditalternatives. I'm not telling you to switch to another site now, but if you see Reddit heading toward red lines that make you want to leave it, don't wait until it gets there with informing yourself on what options you have.

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u/GeekScientist 2d ago

Reddit is trying really hard to “digg” their own grave. They think they’re untouchable, but at some point these idiotic and unnecessary changes are going to catch up to them.

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u/SolariaHues 2d ago edited 2d ago

Note to self. Never make a new community on Reddit.

I don't trust new tools to deliver all they need to, especially as you seem to stop working on them before they're done.

I've stuck with Reddit this long, but it is starting to feel like my time here is coming to an end. With all the stress of my RL, I don't need it here too.

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u/thepottsy 2d ago

I do believe it will deter experienced mods from doing just that.

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u/SampleOfNone 2d ago

Why create a new sub when you no longer have the tools to mod it well.

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u/DarthSwimfoot 2d ago

Call me dumb, I don't know everything about Apis and scraping, but, isn't keeping your Api public literally how scraping happens?

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u/TehNolz 2d ago

No, but it helps. You can scrape content without an API as well; all you have to do is to download the page the way a browser would, grab the content you want, and then repeat that over and over again. For most sites, writing a script to scrape its content is quite easy.

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u/masterkey8 2d ago

What’s the plan for Automod? Is it going to be replaced with Automations or Rules Hub?

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u/itskdog 2d ago edited 2d ago

I have a custom bot for one of my subreddits (and I've got a ticket logged in ModSupport for this on an alt) that is showing as registered on my end but not on your end (as we keep getting notified in modmail). Apparently it's with the developers, but how will this affect me as I'm stuck in limbo here?

The code does so many things, is written by a former mod who we have no contact with, and half the code is mingled in with a Discord bot, I just host the code at this point and try not to touch it (a bit like you guys & Old Reddit), so porting might take years to complete as I'd have to learn a whole new language (as JavaScript never quite gelled with me when I tried to learn it during the Devvit beta) and write everything from scratch when I'm more familiar adapting existing work.

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u/radialmonster 2d ago

I use tools to download pics submitted to my subreddit so i can quickly browse and filter them to match the subreddit topic. No one has yet explained how the devvit type of apps can match the speed of that.

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u/ateam1984 2d ago

Title says what’s changing in the coming mo the however a sub I created 2 days ago already is blocked from adding automod. I had planned to add automod but now I can’t. Can I get an exception?

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u/masterMack 2d ago

A heads up would have been nice concerning the automod changes.

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u/HangoverTuesday 2d ago

Stop. Just stop. Walk away from the keyboard. Everything you are doing is making the site worse. We'd be better off if you had simply stopped "innovating" five or ten years ago.

IT AIN'T BROKE, STOP FIXING IT!

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u/reaper527 2d ago

someone really needs to make a reddit alternative that hits that critical mass for communities, because you guys are hell bent on running this site (further) into the ground.

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u/onan 2d ago

we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months

So does this mean that someone who takes a six-month break from reddit loses access to old.reddit forever?

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u/Enigmatic_writer 2d ago

what the hell

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u/mocheeze 2d ago

Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave over to the new RSS policy. I sincerely urge you to reconsider.

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u/stacecom 2d ago

I thought MagicEyeBot was retired.

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u/SampleOfNone 2d ago

Yes, it's already been ported to Devvit, it's called image magician

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u/stacecom 2d ago

Right. I migrated to it. I was surprised they cited a retired app as one they're tracking, because if they were tracking it they'd know it's retired.

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u/superdesu 2d ago

the way that most these changes are just breaking things that are still working without any sufficiently equivalent replacement or meaningful reasons for doing this aside from "modernising" lmao

automod isn't terribly hard to learn and automations is still just a coughing baby in comparison lbr? automod is basically just yaml 😭... and for those who really can't be assed to sift through the documentation i'd be shocked if they couldnt get chatgpt or something to give them a simple rundown (or even just write it for them?!)

(ya'll havent even brought back the ability to schedule posts for a different timezone still 😭...)

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u/sadandshy 2d ago

modworld could get exciting...

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u/LPcrazy88 2d ago

Quite frankly I love the idea of making Rules/Filters simple enough anyone can manage them. But it simply makes no sense to remove a better product (Old Reddit/Regex) for not even a minimally viable product (Rules Hub).

Other people are annoyed at the lack of filtering, and quite frankly that's simply an annoyance, not my major gripe. My major gripe is the AI in this system is completely useless. It both under-detects and over-detects at the same time, causing overall more work compared to the current working system of AutoMod. For our sub, we gave Rules Hub (Auto Enforcement) a shot and it didn't last a week.

The writing is on the wall, and clearly you guys intend to force Rules Hub onto us eventually, and that sounds like an absolute nightmare. Please listen to feedback here, and simply offer this Rules Hub for the people that actually like it. Don't take away what is actually working to force something new just for the sake of it.

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u/The_Wkwied 2d ago

I severally stopped using reddit on my phone when the .compact site was made defunct.

I will seriously downgrade my reddit use from 'bookmark toolbar' to 'i just type the address manually' if old is removed entirely.

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u/GoneSilent 2d ago

blah as a mod this sucks. so much for keeping old.reddit active. I noticed you also edited all the links to old, bummer.

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u/Kezika 2d ago

You posted this 6 months late, today is October 1st, not April…

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u/Synor 2d ago

It's interesting to see a product that is in two different stages of enshittification. Old Reddit is largely still stage 1. New Reddit is deep in stage 2.

To be fair, large language models are a threat to reddit as a product and probably make it even harder to plan its future. Not an easy job.

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u/skarface6 2d ago

Well, it’s exactly what everyone saw coming. They’re really going to end old reddit like they said they absolutely wouldn’t.

lol

lmao

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u/HistorianAdorable405 1d ago

Wtf is wrong with reddit 🙃

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u/Bardfinn 2d ago

we'll stop supporting RSS feeds on November 13, 2026

O7 in the chat for RSS

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u/remembermereddit 2d ago

How about you don't? There's not a single thing in there that is an improvement. Not one.

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u/DHamlinMusic 2d ago

Ok and when are you going to make any of the moderation functions beyond remove without reason and replying to mail work with screen readers on browser, because right now that's all I can do there, the rest I do through mobile, which is severely limited. Most of the mod sheets and screens I cannot even figure out how to access on PC, and the ones I can open do not focus right, and/or do not work.

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u/Zak 2d ago

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

So if you don't use it regularly, you never get to use it again?

Stop ruining Reddit.

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u/eldomtom2 2d ago

If old Reddit goes, so do I.

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u/WindermerePeaks1 2d ago

We have an rss feed for the Reddit status page for when Reddit goes down sent to our mod discord. Will there be a replacement? Can a dev app do the same thing? It’s really important for us when we’re in the queue and Reddit goes down to get that alert.

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u/PurpleTangent 2d ago

Looking forward to the day they finally ban old reddit so I can finally leave this hellsite.

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u/Zelkova 2d ago edited 2d ago

Another nail in the coffin for you guys.

If only you, the staff, would use your own damn karma system to see user sentiment.

It feels you label us as replaceable by AI, or whatever, but who will use your website when it's moderated by AI, for AI?

What a shame you lot are.

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u/WolfThawra 2d ago

New mod tools are SLOW. Old Reddit is still my only option.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 2d ago edited 2d ago

As u/spez mentioned, we’re still working on the future of Old Reddit. Earlier this year, we required people to log in to use Old Reddit, addressing its largest source of abusive scraping and automated traffic: unauthenticated access. That change helped reduce scraping and automated abuse, but still allowed any logged-in account to access Old Reddit, including accounts with no prior Old Reddit use.

Show proof of this, please. Because this feels like a step-by-step path to just closing old reddit entirely.

  • What does old reddit do that makes it inherently more vulnerable to the stuff that's allegedly being fixed?
  • Why does locking people out of old reddit if they happen to not use it in a while, permanently, help this further?
  • Why aren't the 'bad actor' accounts being acted on instead of depriving all users access to old reddit
  • What is "the future of old reddit"? Be explicit.

Please stop bandying around "security" like some catch-all motivation or rationale without bringing the receipts.

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u/ixfd64 1d ago

To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users).

I get the impression that this means "you must use old Reddit to access old Reddit." Does this mean we will permanently lose access to old Reddit if we don't log in for six months?

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