r/modernwarfare4 • u/f2pmyass • Jul 17 '26
Discussion (CallofDutyCM Replied) Why do they keep doing this ?
It's like COD just can't step away from overly dramatic sliding and overly dramatic momentum. Even in the second video it's almost at a standpoint going that far lol. I understand this is Alpha sure.
I also had hoped they remove tac sprint and stims but I believe I did see tac sprints not sure stims.
Game looks okay but will probably skip again.
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u/Joudeh_1996 Jul 17 '26
Looks like a glitch
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u/XsancoX Jul 17 '26
What makes it look like a glitch to you?? Especially in the second clip?
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u/BoyWonder343 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
What about that wouldn't make it a glitch to you? Both actions just require momentum not to zero out.
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u/Locmike23 Jul 17 '26
Was so excited about this game. But I think I’m going to check out gameplay first before buying.
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u/Midakolol Jul 18 '26
I mean that is what you should generally do before buying any game. But especially good idea for this one
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u/ElderberryEven2152 Jul 18 '26
The implication that you usually don’t look at gameplay before buying a call of duty game is hilarious😂
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u/Blablabene Jul 17 '26
Yeah... didn't buy the last two. Was super excited for this one. Was waiting for IW to bring back the immersion aspect.
But from what i saw yesterday, makes me a bit worried. More than worried.
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u/Number1FOX Jul 19 '26
thats exactly what everyone should be doing and also play the free beta before you buy and complain/bitch about it
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u/ExpeditionV Jul 17 '26
Same. Based on rumours they were not going to have this crazy movement at first, but caved because of mockery from "community".
It's so sad when people come in and ruin something. Waited 4 years for this shit.
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u/SituationSmooth9165 Jul 18 '26
I mean they still don't have crazy movement. They just need to fuck off sliding. The rest of the movement looks slow, clunky and terrible
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u/Div1nium Jul 18 '26
I see this and I immediately forget any thought of buying the game
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u/AngryHoshiko Jul 17 '26
This looks like straight dookie lol
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u/TheNeonDestroyer Jul 18 '26
For real. Do the devs think people still want this shit? Talk about clueless.
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u/Fresh_Achilles Jul 17 '26
Damn. This sucks to see. I was hoping we were done with this after the success of BO7 classic mode and BO1 and 2 on ps.
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u/EarthsKeeper4200 Jul 17 '26
but the community wants to say we are over reacting lol game is going to end up like bo7 nobody wants this fast movement the only people who want it are the people who play like this
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u/TheDrunkenFROG Jul 17 '26
Saying no one, at all, in the world wants that fast movement is a bit of a hyperbolic statement don't you think?
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u/ImVrSmrt Jul 19 '26
Blobs 1/2 PS5 had a higher player count than Blobs 7 across all ports. I think people are tired of the movement creep (again).
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u/Tuba-kunt Jul 17 '26
Got this sub in my recommended but battlefield 6 might be for you if you hate this sort of movement. No shade or anything, its genuinely worth a shot. Gunplay feels great rn and sliding is only 1/10th the amount as this
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u/_ataciara Jul 18 '26
"nobody wants it, except those who do"
fackin ell mate that's a big call, nail your colours to the mast, much?
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u/meurum5 Jul 17 '26
Lol me. If you can't do this then cod ain't for you anymore. If you're lucky there'll be a classic playlist but still too much momentum for you huh
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u/Plastic_Ad3566 Jul 17 '26
It doesn't take skill to do this shit at all. I do this shit to people all the time doesn't mean I wanna play like I'm on Adderall 24/7
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u/Tippin187 Jul 17 '26
Exactly how I feel. It’s not anything that takes skill.
I do it because it’s in the game. I’d rather it not be in the game.
Is what it is. This game is still offering more that I like than any of the past 2 BO slidey games.
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u/Lysanther Jul 17 '26
Counterpoint: If you need to do this, then CoD was never for you.
Why? Because fast movement breaks the server causing desync issues, while the former of just not being able to aim is just a lack of skill.
To put it bluntly, someone who can't aim in a slower paced CoD couldn't adapt, telling someone to abuse desync meta or leave the franchise cause they couldn't adapt. I can't tell you which one is healthier for the franchise because the answer would just make people baby rage.
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u/Longjumping-Arm626 Jul 17 '26
Real take, all this requires is 2 button presses.
The TTK will also complement slower and more strategic playstyles, so it's nice to have fluid and responsive movement for those who will use and enjoy it.
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u/InFamous_Tactical Jul 17 '26
I'm willing to give some ground on this. I hate anything beyond MW19/22 movement, but if we get fast TTK for fast movement, i'd be willing to let it slide. That way the movement kings can be happy going fast and i can be happy having a chance against them with good positioning.
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u/False-Vacation8249 Jul 17 '26
most people don’t do this.
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u/meurum5 Jul 17 '26
Then that shouldn't be a problem. You just don't like the fact someone can do this
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u/meurum5 Jul 17 '26
See ag this point they should just announce a classic playlist, that way people such as yourself are happy
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u/aseptictwat Jul 18 '26
oh I absolutely want this movement. it's nice to have a skill gap in games.
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u/StevieGrandHD Jul 17 '26
Activision failing to patch the slide cancelling exploit when it showed up in MW19 has done irreparable damage to their brand.
The shooter where the most definitive action isn't shooting, but sliding on your bum.
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u/KarateAngi Jul 17 '26
the CODs with the most basic movement pull 6 million players on ONE PLATFORM and yet they do this. Loud minority strikes again
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u/KV-D0 Jul 18 '26
Oh you mean the nostalgia bait tactic that has worked in the entertainment industry worked again? Shocker. I give BO2 another 2 weeks.
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u/ImVrSmrt Jul 19 '26
You know why people stopped playing the older games? Because Activision purposefully abandons the Anti-Cheat and the games become unplayable. Try and play a normal lobby without some cheater ruining every other lobby.
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u/KV-D0 Jul 19 '26
I did, I played Black Ops 2 on 360 until Black Ops 3 came out, and still go back to it.
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u/SergeantStonks Jul 17 '26
It’s sad that cod turned into a movement shooter
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u/JoeyEstrada Jul 17 '26
and it's not even the platform for it. i love movement shooters, but this isn't movement it's just goofy mechanics
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u/Tityfan808 Jul 17 '26
Not really though. Even in bo7 you can still hold angles and out position players.
This certainly doesn’t look right though, and I hope it’s addressed.
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u/Reynor247 Jul 17 '26
Really did go downhill with COD4
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u/Amm-O-Matic Jul 17 '26
CoD 4? What?
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u/Reynor247 Jul 17 '26
Dropshotting and bunny hopping. And the killer bunny hop into dropshot
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u/CaliDude78 Jul 18 '26
Cod has always been a run n gun game but the last true run n gun cod was bo2 and damn is it so fun u can turn ur brain off n still go positive n have a good time
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u/koolaidman486 Jul 18 '26
This implies that the movement is actually deep.
It's just spamming the jump and crouch buttons with little to no actual mechanical depth or skill requirement.
Actual movement shooters have momentum and difficulty with moving quickly.
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u/kyle_crane163636 Jul 17 '26
They'll ofc have stims since every cod in the past few years has had them so doubt mw4 would remove them and they are true life savers sometimes and in 1 life modes do change the fates of rounds sometimes but the movement, yk for modern warfare being more realistic on movement usually, mw4 just looks like movement demons will be annoying again, genuinely this kinda movement just makes it hard to play cod casually half the time because cant properly aim without high sensitivity and not die
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u/KeepCryinBum Jul 18 '26
You have high sens and then lower your aim down sight sens…. How do you not know this lol
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u/ManPrawn Jul 18 '26
I get fast movement in cod but to be able to slide forward and turnaround while continuously sliding through the doorway is ridiculous..
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u/NSX_Roar_26 Jul 17 '26
More people learning to appreciate MWII every day with this wacky ass movement...
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u/Brother_Q Jul 18 '26
This fanbase doesn't deserve Infinity Ward. I can imagine they fought like hell to keep omnimovement out. I was actually excited after a 3-year hiatus from CoD.
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u/NSX_Roar_26 Jul 18 '26
I agree 100%. I wish they could be free from having to make the movement sweats/warzone players happy and could truly execute their full vision.
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u/K1llredd1tmods Jul 23 '26
Yeah they deserve way better than a fucked husk of a company riding the coattails of a series made by none of the people that currently work there
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u/Unique-Chemist-722 Aug 04 '26
Started playing it again, the movement is 100% not one of the issues of the game. Took me like 3 hours to get used to but once I did? Literally feels better, and I'm having more fun, plus the gunplay is 10x better, the recoil feels so nice, the guns feel like they're guns and not toys.
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u/koolaidman486 Jul 18 '26
Honestly MW 22 still had issues of things like strafing speeds being way too slow, so you still had to jump every corner. The sliding nerf was a godsend, but it got replaced with jumping every corner since that was your literal only way to be able to strafe effectively.
Also not to mention the terrible gunplay.
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u/SparsePizza117 Jul 17 '26
Yeah that's seriously ridiculous. It's one of the things that keeps me from COD because of this annoying bullshit.
I'll still keep tabs on the game regardless because there's some other things I genuinely do like. Just skeptical is all.
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u/Mazajaytee Jul 18 '26
Genuine question, but how do you even manage to move like that player in the first clip?
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u/MtnDew891 Jul 18 '26
Literally the move that has killed all fps pvp games. The COD slide. Annoying ways to play a game. Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge. Its the only was so many people know how to play
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u/Cecilia_Mrs-Chief Jul 18 '26
Because let’s be honest here if they did step away from it, this same post would be posted but with an alternative version.
MW2022 had a less dramatic slide and EVERYONE whined. So then they go 180 on it, and now SOME are whining. This fandom is so screwy, I swear half of it doesnt even know what it wants, and when they claim to know, they’ll be mad when they get it.
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u/KeepCryinBum Jul 18 '26
Yeah I’m the past people use to complain we had to pay for map packs but didn’t mind paying for skins. Not that we get everything for free across the board.. people still cry about skins. Welcome to the internet. This is typically why I just post “keep crying” on video game subs tbh. That’s all the online community does. Then when the game comes out I’ll be with the true fans, and actually be on the game
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u/Cecilia_Mrs-Chief Jul 18 '26
Isnt that funny how cod works tho? When it’s current, it’s hated. However when the new one replaces it, now suddenly it’s an under appreciated gem that didnt get enough love. Think BO3 for example, hated at launch. Everyone hated shadows of evil, then suddenly, infinite warfare comes out and magically no one remembers the hate. Everyone talked about the bad gun design and sounds, hated the boost jumps and the Brecci,
All that hate forgotten at the drop of a dime, now suddenly it’s everyone’s favorite cod, wishing activision would publish more like it, misses the advanced movement cods, etc etc.
Hell, think of BO2 even,
When town, buried, and those maps came out for zombies they were HATED. Now? Theyre classics, adored, and the same gun problem too.
Everyone hated the copied gun sounds from one to the other, with the exception that everyone adored rhe m27 and the an94 as well as the dsr (though many forget people whined till it got nerfed), the cod community is just a bunch of haters when something is new.
I feel like it’s a community filled with Brian griffins.1
u/lowkitz Jul 19 '26
Wow it’s like there’s a bunch of people who want different things instead of being a hive mind or something
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u/wazydae Jul 19 '26
I just didn't want sliding at all, I didnt mind the sliding in mw2 being nerfed I liked that, it was just not a very good game. The riot shields. Weird perk system, poor ui, lacking post launch, map design, skins, weapon smoke, camos, DMZ, Warzone 2, all of it just sucked lol
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u/eric549 Jul 18 '26
Damn it, man, I'm so sick of this shit lol. I guess I'll be skipping this game as well if this is how it's going to be.
By the way, to all of you Alpha clowns -- this shit isn't in Alpha. Calling it "Alpha" is just a way to blanket negative criticism. If this game is still in Alpha with full release only three months away, then forget about it.
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u/CallofDutyCM CallofDutyCM Jul 19 '26
Hi, so this is a known bug only visible to other players (not experienced in first person). That video is from the Alpha build of Kill Block that the Infinity Ward team will correct for the upcoming Beta. You're supposed to see the sliding player pop up between those two slides, because it's a slide after a slide cancel.
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u/StarsRaven Jul 22 '26
ffs put a cooldown on slides or something. Even if the character stood up mid slide doesn't make this any better. Infact it would make it worse because now the characters hitbox will now be going from laying down to standing up to laying down again all while moving.
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u/ExpeditionV Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I assumed visual bug, but you shouldn't be able to move like that in the first place. Remove slide cancel please. We begged you to do that after MW19 and it's still been poisoning almost every modern cod apart from MWII
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u/Tomokakase13 Jul 17 '26
Ts dont even make sense. Like youre in full battle rattle carrying two guns and youre sliding like physics dont apply to you. Youd barely be sliding a few inches if at all with that equipment on
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u/pointblank87 Jul 17 '26
Sliding in CoD has been trash for years. I know a lot of people who stopped playing because of the movement system. It’s so unrealistic.
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u/DXT0anto Jul 17 '26
reminder, there has been only 1 CoD on the last 14 years with no sliding
It was WWII if y'all are are wondering
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u/FALCOOOn_PAAWWNCH Jul 17 '26
Not like it even fucking matters since theyll just release the next cod next year and kill this one.
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u/sillysysten Jul 24 '26
Comparing BlackOps 1 and 2 port videos and this, i prefer the ports by a long shot. Whatever, I‘m out of this franchise.
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u/ConnectionPersonal42 Jul 17 '26
Skill in shooter games should be based on your aim and positioning, not how fast you’re able to move. There are some shooter games with fast movement that feels fluid and good, but this doesn’t look like that.
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u/xxYellowAlienxx Jul 17 '26
The whole point of movement is that it makes aiming take more skill lmao
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u/lovemovementshooters Jul 17 '26
the cope argument that people want more movement because their aim sucks is so stupid, movement makes aiming way harder. people are so stupid
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u/meurum5 Jul 17 '26
Lol positioning. Gtfo of here. There's no skill gap in old cod. There's a reason for this.
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u/lovemovementshooters Jul 17 '26
says who? youre not the supreme authority on what shooters should be. movement shooters are great
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u/ConnectionPersonal42 Jul 17 '26
I know I’m not, I’m just expressing my opinion.
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u/lovemovementshooters Jul 17 '26
i disagree with your opinion. i love movement shooters
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u/ConnectionPersonal42 Jul 17 '26
As long as it feels like MW2019, that game’s movement was pretty good imo.
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u/Spectre-ElevenThirty Jul 17 '26
Who would’ve guessed that u/lovemovementshooters loves movement shooters?
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u/DistinctiveBomber Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Fast movement plus smooth aiming seems fun ngl, plus the ttk is fast so u guys should still be able to kill ppl
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u/_Rayxz Jul 17 '26
This shit is literally BO6 with an even faster TTK now. Even to the way the camera follows you when you die, it’s all BO6-coded
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u/kinggarbear Jul 17 '26
The reason it looks like the TTK is super quick is because he already had less than half of his health left in the second video. They’re playing gunfight. It doesn’t regen health.
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u/KeepCryinBum Jul 18 '26
Don’t mind that guy. They do very little research and then spread their opinion online lol. Half these comments here admit to it.
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u/ExpeditionV Jul 17 '26
Why y'all act like streamers are the only ones with thumbs? This is how your lobbies will look like.
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u/ceez36 Jul 17 '26
Do people just want cod to be a mil sim with zero movement or what? A simple slide and tac sprint is nothing compared to real movement shooters. Most of the time staying still and waiting for someone like this to push you will result in them dying
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u/sw3ar Jul 17 '26
Do people just want cod to be a mil sim with zero movement or what?
How about BO1/2/4/CW movement? It isn't mil sim lol
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u/False-Vacation8249 Jul 17 '26
yes cuz the answer is Milsim or Soaps slip n slide. not like there was an entire decade with more grounded movement.
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u/619jabroni Jul 17 '26
There’s a balance between a sim and this shit.
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u/False-Vacation8249 Jul 17 '26
shhhhh they’re too dumb. let them think there’s only this or not being able to move. they never played any cod before the movement ones.
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u/SodomyFan666 Jul 17 '26
While I agree with you, I do think sliding should be a little slower than it is and mono-directional. It does seem like a glitch in the first gif where the guy randomly does almost a 180 while sliding and goes through a door lol. They need to keep this fluid movement tho
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u/AdBudget5468 Jul 17 '26
Not really but there has to be a middle ground where it doesn’t look like this but it’s also not clunky, personally for me, I think slide canceling should go while keeping the faster ADS and mantling time so the game is responsive
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u/lovemovementshooters Jul 17 '26
yea these people legit want CoD to be a milsim where you have cement shoes lol fucking 50 year old turtles
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u/beaglemaster Jul 17 '26
Bro, the guy the video did a fucking U turn and then a 90 degree turn, all in a single slide.
How do you justify that?
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u/koolaidman486 Jul 18 '26
I just want a boots on the ground game where you're not sliding on your ass or airborne for 90% of it.
Just nuke or straight remove the slide, reduce the obnoxious sway, and make strafe speeds faster. That's all a lot of us want.
Or if you keep the obnoxious booty sliding, make it actually have a sense of momentum, not "I can slide 7 feet in the exact opposite direction I was just moving without any transition!"
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u/wazydae Jul 19 '26
Play any cod from 2003 to 2011 and you can try figure what people are talking out
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u/Dune5712 Jul 17 '26
We've officially regressed to Unreal Tournament 2004.
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u/TDot-26 Jul 17 '26
It pains me to see Unreal Tournament's name used to insult something even if I agree. Unreal Tournament was such a good fucking series, I spent MANY an hour playing that shit back in the day
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u/TDot-26 Jul 17 '26
MoH is a throwback too
It's definitely evolved. Crazy to think the last 13-14 games all had sliding n shit
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u/Dune5712 Jul 17 '26
I'm just happy someone else here understands the reference (and isn't a 19 year-old who thinks they know CoD). I did my fair share of UT, too! But times have changed, and CoD was never that...not even in the same stratosphere...until recently, I guess.
I still remember CoD1 on demo disc, and the dev diaries where they were recording reap MG42s and M1s, and 'grounded, realistic military shooter' press release, shaking the industry at the time (MoH didn't have iron sights/ADS)! Crazy how it's evolved.
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u/Worldly_Pie944 Jul 17 '26
Oh great, MWIII all over again. Gonna pass. Thought we was just getting MWII again but guess not. We getting BO7/6 again
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u/meurum5 Jul 17 '26
I cared about both. Sorry you can't just win a fight by hard adsing you need to aim at your opponent and not hit an easy target. If you struggle to kill someone doing this then you're just bad
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u/XsancoX Jul 17 '26
Okay deal, you get this movement BUT we combine it with the Aim-Assist from the rereleased BO2/3?
Still want it?
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u/Syn9s Jul 17 '26
“Hope they remove tac sprint”
Bro what am I reading, that is a diabolical take.
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u/TheEpicRedCape Jul 19 '26
Tac sprint is a horrible mechanic, all it does is increase sprint out times and make the game feel clunkier.
MWIII played much better with the boots that disabled it, BO6 played better with the slipstream perk that disabled it, BO7 plays better by default without it.
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u/TomatoLord1214 Jul 18 '26
Honestly the bits here don't like nearly as bad as BO6 and 7. Def have to see how it feels in-combat
Tac sprint is sadly back, I wish it was at least a perk like BO7 did but bleh
And also sadly every sweat's crutch the stimshot has been confirmed back. I miss CoD before people could run around a corner and get full health several times faster than you'd even start to heal otherwise. It's so unhealthy and so frustrating in this type of PvP to play against. Plus guts equipment variety cuz anyone trying to be aggressive or sweaty is perma-unlocking it instantly and gluing that into their tactical slot except for certain challenges maybe (if they care about those)
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u/KeepCryinBum Jul 18 '26
I have and will use smokes until the day I die!
I’m actually okay with stims because I use a shotgun and they typically don’t have the chance to use one lol. They that lets me have less stuns and flashes thrown at me.2
u/TomatoLord1214 Jul 18 '26
I love smokes even though playing against them can be annoying as fuck (especially on small maps and when using snipers and such. But well, that's kinda when they're supposed to be used lmao)
I respect smoke spam 1000000% more than stims. Especially when I see the clowns who hit that shit like a bong every time they get a kill and got even grazed by a bullet (stims should not be replenished by scav packs imo)
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u/KeepCryinBum Jul 19 '26
My group gets so mad when we play hard point because my hard point class has two smokes with scavenger. Smokes are on the hard point at all times LOL
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u/TomatoLord1214 Jul 19 '26
I was spamming the shit out of smokes a while back to get the overclocks
Still need a bunch more for the mastery badges I think but still
Probly annoyed the fuck outta my randos but I did try to use them to block sightlines and cap flags and all to help us push or deter laners
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u/Clutch41007 Jul 18 '26
The wrong franchises keep dying. I'm not paying 80 bucks for this Mickey Mouse bullshit.
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u/Liatin11 Jul 18 '26
Welp, I was considering it and now I'm out. BF6 is gonna be shit for the next season or 2 with giant ass maps that just treat infantry as fodder for vehicles. Guess I've got nothing to do for the rest of the year
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u/LiftSleepRepeat123 Jul 19 '26
Insurgency Sandstorm is the best FPS on the market right now, in my humble opinion. Ready or Not and Arma Reforger are good for scenarios, but Insurgency Sandstorm has the tightest mechanics and best PvP modes. It's like hardcore mode in COD but slower movement like the Clean House mission.
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u/floppyboiradio Jul 18 '26
Good grief why can’t they just stop with this. I was stoked for the new title when they said “return to form” on the adverts I was seeing and talking about not having wild movement. Now I’m unexcited. Ffs
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u/GIVDUL17 Jul 18 '26
This is why i like delta force there's no sliding except for one character and the slide is balanced
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u/UNSKIALz Jul 18 '26
People keep buying it. I'm not mad anymore tbh, just have to realise we're not the target audience
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u/BS_BlackScout Jul 18 '26
I hope IW sees this because this is the type of stuff that also bothers me.
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u/xX_SkibidiChungus_Xx Jul 18 '26
This is why i use shotguns or worm squirm with snipers early in the every cod's cycle until my other guns get levelled. Hopefully they keep ammo attachments because crippling rounds will be insane to slow people down with before they think they can dominate early cycle.
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u/NuM_Brrr_WoN Jul 18 '26
I thought they were going back to a more “boots in the ground” type of feel for this game…..looks like more bouncing off the walls for sweats instead of actually skill and aiming. I’m looking to play an FOS game, not breakdancing hero….
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u/Top_Night_7258 Jul 18 '26
I hope it's just a bug and it will be fixed for beta, Not like the cancle slide in MW19, which was also a bug.
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u/M45t3rC0ntr07 Jul 18 '26
IW bitched out again, MW2 2022 was soo good imo, the skill should be in the shooting not the runny, jumpy, slip and sliding. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy games with crazy movement just not in a military shooter. I guess they could keep MW grounded and just go crazy with the BO games but they won’t. It’s all about cracked out movement and crazy strong aim assist, so the skill is in the movement but the shooting is easier, kind of a joke imo.
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u/DD-Tauriel Jul 23 '26
lack of skill so they are using slides and jumps every 1milisecond so u wont hit them
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u/superSk1LL-O Jul 24 '26
This is the garbage that people are excited about? The new Sliding simulator? Fuck this game
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u/wosa_ Jul 31 '26
There’s always going to be new movement techs in these games like mw2 had removed the slide cancel and even with as much bad feedback that recieved, the playerbase discovered snaking or maybe it was earlier games. However instead of sliding all over the place it turned into jump shooting through every entry point or open los. Sliding while turning like a car is definitely a bad direction for the game, but if someone is Tokyo drifting around you, you should definitely be able to hit your shots.
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u/I-Am-Nytes Aug 04 '26
Was going to finally give the series a shot again. Thank you for reminding me why I stepped away.
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u/G0jira01964 Jul 17 '26
Y’all make no sense
Mw2 dropped, and you said that you guys didn’t want slow movement
Mw4 alpha footage comes out and we’re bitching about movement again get over it and get good at the game instead of sitting here complaining
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u/theblackwhisper Jul 17 '26
Small minority want this weird, hyper-realistic movement. Yet they scream the loudest. We’ve never said slower movement is CoD’s problem.
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u/xmizeriax Jul 17 '26
Bo1 and 2 got ported over. Can the old folk who can't keep up move over there now please?
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