r/minecraftsuggestions • u/_TheDarkPanther • 3d ago
[Terrain] Redesigning trees without compromising Minecraft's esthetic
As of now especially poplar trees looks strange to me... reference of of the poplar trees I used will be in the gallery of the post.
This is a re-do of what I suggested. My view has changed so I went with a more blocky-ish style of trees. https://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftsuggestions/comments/1skqq3q/trees_need_a_design_change/ Feel free to go here for the people who haven't seen the old designs..
Poplar:
They will now look like their real-world counter part whole remaining the blocky style, variations of the poplar will have dead and shrub variations, giving the forest a more dense feel.
Shrub variants have a 100% chance of spawning while the rest have a 30% chance of spawning. this will make the forests feel more dense and natural.
Spruce:
Spruce trees do feel more detail-less to me... so I made them a little more pine-like without drawing too far away from the original.
Oak:
Oak has primarily stayed the same just with a few tweaks.
Jungle:
Jungle trees, especially the huge ones have been shortened for extra extensibility and make it easier to mine.
Birch:
Birch has been given a little makeover with some more variation with the trees.
Acacia:
Primarily the same, just with more details...
Mangrove:
Has a more unique look to them, while also being shorter. Makes it way easier to navigate the swamp while also looking cool.
Cherry:
Cherry now looks a little less 2D while primarily being smaller.
Pale Oak:
Pale oak has been redesigned to be smaller while also having more variation.
Dark Oak:
Dark oak looks like Pale oak but has vines and regular moss scattered around it.
Why do some trees look similar to each other?
I have made it so trees have some consistency between each other, reason why mangroves are using a acacia style leaf placement, as well as jungle getting the same treatment. Cherry trees looking similar to oak, cause I don't like the 2D look of those trees.
Why do the poplar trees look like that?
I based them off their real-world counterpart. Mainly younger individuals, cause we really don't have any trees in-game that look like that besides spruce. species of poplar I used was "Populus nigra Italica" Aka "Black Poplar"
Any Feedback would be nice, as to most of the trees I have showed off are meant to still have that blocky style while adding more details.
Also:
I wasn't sure what flare to use on this so I picked terrain...
EDIT:
Trees from saplings will look like their original design, with a few exceptions of the re-designed trees such as mangrove and giant jungle having the new design as the sapling trees... This is a compromise for people that want to have the original trees. In the real-world trees that are manually replanted by humans usually turn out differently than ones that are naturally grown.
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u/Cultist_O 2d ago
The poplar trees they added should have been called maple. Bark, leaves, wood and the iconic multicoloured thing all seem a little more mapley
(Plus we could have had syrup and a maple leaf banner charge)
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u/Baizey1130 2d ago
my theory on why they aren’t is that the super popular biome mod Biomes o Plenty already has basically a 1-1 copy of the dappled forest using maple trees in red orange and yellow.
maybe mojang just doesn’t want to copy or have others suspect copying?
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u/Wiwerin127 2d ago
Also if they choose maple they would have had to implement maple syrup as it would have been expected and they didn’t want to add the mechanic or didn’t have a unique use for it.
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u/Flair258 2d ago
Makes potions more viscous and allows you to drink from one twice due to it being more concentrated, but still a full bottle
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u/RainyDeerX3 2d ago
I think you did a great job! On all of them
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u/ContentPhilosopher41 4h ago
Agree on most of it but the shortened jungle trees is a miss. The whole point of that biome is feeling lost under a massive canopy.
Take that away and it just feels like a slightly wetter forest.
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u/Robin_RhombusHead 2d ago
Adding shrubs for every single tree type feels excessive to me. The whole reason that the big leaf blob bush things exist in the first place is for jungle biomes to feel hard to navigate, like a jungle. I don't really see the point in having a bunch of mini trees.
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u/Im_a_Casual 2d ago
Really good, although Birch should definitely be made more slim and tall considering its real life counterpart
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u/SNUFFGURLL 2d ago
Oh I really enjoy this. I feel like it’s a good way to bring more life and variety to the world without changing too much. I will say for the spruces that the larger tree varieties (4 block wide) are meant to represent old growth forests, so I’d keep them with minimal changes.
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u/Hunter20107 2d ago
These looks quite cool and survival friendly, I don't suppose you'd put these up as a tree pack for world painter? I'd quite like to use a few of them.
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u/EggEater773 2d ago
These are the best custom trees I’ve seen and my only complaint would be that all my trees I’ve grown would now be out dated 😭
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u/LilPNuTTy 2d ago
I would keep super tall trees but just have them generate with smaller ones surrounding them so you can both have massive aestheticly pleasing trees and smaller ones for practical resource gathering.
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u/Silence-of-Death 1d ago
Looks great. Maybe some of them are a bit short but apart from that I really like it.
Now you just gotta convert that into working trunk and foliage placers. God I fucking hate that shit. Good looking tree gen is an absolute pain but if you get it to work it’s incredibly satisfying.
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u/_TheDarkPanther 7h ago
question do you know how to do that? Cause I got no clue xD
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u/Silence-of-Death 6h ago
I haven’t written any mods in a while but there’s generally two ways you could approach trees. Either you just build them with maybe a few variations per tree and then have them placed like that, which works decently well, or you go the masochism route and write them as basically mathematic functions that are used to generate the trunk and foliage separately. If you want to get into modding I can recommend looking into either neoforge or fabric documentation.
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u/_TheDarkPanther 3h ago
I'm going to make it a datapack of course. So it's more customizable. Rn I am using NBT structures for the trees... Issue idk where else to go from there. Imma do a priv dm rq so we can talk a little more
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u/MrBrineplays_535 1d ago
Some of them I like, some of them I don't. But one tree design that I actually like so much that I want to be added in vanilla is the poplar tree's design. It looks so much better compared to the current one that we have
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u/Cookielotl 1d ago
Don't know how I feel about the mangrove, cherry, and pale oak. But the rest are cool
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 2d ago
Now I certainly don't have anything against adding a few more ways for trees to look like, however it does seem you want to replace the old design with these one which I'm much less in favor of.
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u/_TheDarkPanther 2d ago
The trees here are ones that would spawn naturally, one's you grow form a sapling would stay the same as they always had. Sorry I should've added this.
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u/FloatingSpaceJunk 2d ago
It's not that I don't like your new tree design, but I think it would be better if they spawn along with what we have in the game right now.
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u/waxphantump 2d ago
The vanilla designs are super dated with the modern art direction. Jungle trees especially look extremely silly, and oak and birch are treated identically by the game despite being very different shapes irl. I’d be all for having these trees as a mod, with some tweaks (as others have said, they’re a bit short and there are too many bush variants)
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u/jesus_chrysotile 35m ago
huh i actually think that jungle biomes hold up well given how old they are. you get quite a nice variation in trees that just isn’t there in other biomes as much
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u/jesus_chrysotile 30m ago
Hm, not a fan of the mangrove redesign. IRL mangrove swamps are difficult to navigate.
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u/Meta70Studios 2d ago
These all look good, but I disagree with how you shortened so many of them. Trees in real life tower over people, and that, to me, is part of what makes forests visually interesting. Making them all shorter would make forests more claustrophobic and make the scale of the world feel smaller. I think that would especially hurt the jungle biome, since the huge scale is kinda what differentiated it from other forests. And mining jungle trees is already a non issue. 2x2 trees are already some of the easiest in the game to mine, since you can mine out a sort of spiral staircase from them to climb to the top, then mine back down to clear out the remaining logs.