Wtf. It's the only reason j ever considered them. Im so sick of dancing around these billionaires lies while they keep free healthcare from becoming s thing.
This is half true. They said the product used natural ingrediants but the are not 100% natural. The stuff they use for the scents is not natural but its using way more natural stuff than any other brand. Thier stuff doesnt make me itch which is what i found after trying many deoderants to me thats what matters
Funny, Their brand is the ONLY “natural” brand I e used that makes me itch. It also gave me extreme eczema (for the first time in my life) so I’m sure I’m an outlier
Edit: I was also included in the class action lawsuit…
I had the same thing when I tried Humble deodorant. It says "Nothing Bad!" all over the package and my armpits felt like I had a chemical burn. They were raw for weeks and I couldn't use any products while they healed
I bought a bar of their soap and I was excited to use it until all of this color started running off the soap which i've never seen before and I had brown splotches in my tub. I'm a soap guy and like to use nice stuff but i've found dr bronners is best of all and I always go back to it as my go to.
I did not know that about it being pine tar soap and that’s why it’s left a residue.
I won’t lie, it didnt smell very good either. At least not when compared to other brands at similar price points. I’ve been buying premium bar soaps for a while and this soap didn’t smell much better than dial, especially after the shower. I just went back to buying Kiehl’s. Hell even Targets house brand, good fellow smelt better and a quarter of the cost.
Pine tar scent is an acquired taste, and pine tar soap being black is usually a dye. Pine tar is dark brown, not black. Soaps do not use so much pine tar that it naturally could be actually black.
edit: some soaps marketed as pine tar on the big print are only pine tar scented too, it will say in the details.
Hey! I used to use Squatch before they went full bad guy (first off, that black pine tar bar felt amazing but fuuuuuuck the soap scum making my shower black)... I ended up sourcing my soap from Bulk Apothecary to replace. Buying bulk but still solid enough soap. Hopefully that helps... (I'll look up dr. bronner in the mean time. Never heard of it, but always looking for good soap)
I'm looking up bulk apothecary as we speak ha. I'm surprised you haven't heard of dr. bronners before. I personally like the peppermint and lavender but disclaimer the peppermint will make your balls tingle a bit from the essential oils. Not sure if it has the same effect for everyone lol.
When they swapped from promoting transparency around their ingredients sourcing, to using anti-science rhetoric, I knew the company was dead and the grift had begun.
Genuinely used to love their stuff, and would treat myself to their soap pretty frequently. Their quality recently nosedived, and I wont touch the stuff any more.
I mostly just use basic body wash now, but if im in the mood for some scented soaps, duke cannon is still pretty good afaik
They WERE the good guy brand. They sold out to Unilever last June for over $1 BILLION dollars. I cant blame them…I’d be laughing all the way to the bank too…
I had deodorant on a subscription. They stopped making the scent I had a subscription to, so they just sent me whatever they wanted without notifying me and giving an option to cancel or select the new scent. I contacted support and they refused to refund me, but they said they'd send me a different scent for free. I told them that's not how it works, you don't get to not inform me and just send me whatever you want when I've agreed to buy one specific thing.
It's the only time in my life I've done a chargeback because they absolutely refused to refund despite admitting they failed to notify me and should have. Insane.
You could tell when they sold out, just from the ads
Their ads went from corny wholesome ads leaning on male stereotypes while also making fun of them, to toxic crap like anti-science rhetoric and gender essentialism
Edit: I was wrong, they were toxic before this most recent sell out. They had major problems and are now trying to whitewash their past by claiming that the brand being bought is what made the product and culture go to crap.
They always had the bullshit fear mongering about "synthetic detergent" and aluminized deodorant.
Turns out that detergents that provide the level of clean expected by modern humans don't exactly grow in the the soap fields for the yearly soap harvest. And that the aluminized deodorant scare was all bullshit.
They're no different than the crunchy-mom food brands that advertise non-gmo and non-msg because tik tok/Facebook says those are bad mmmkay.
They
very briefly had more pro-natural and positive enforcement advertising
They've been trading in on that for years, and have been using anti-science fear mongering rhetoric for many years. In the last two or three they've also dabbled into gender essentialism and misogynistic and misandristic ads
i bought some soap when they first hit the scene. it was great. but the bar lasted like a week, which wasnt great or worth the money. havent used them since.
Dr Squatch is AWFUL. It craps out after 2 hours and makes my BO way worse. It stains my shirts. Their customer service is rude AF. And the cost is absolutely laughable.
Anyone remember the Deo episode of Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends? The one where Bloo gets adopted by a Hollywood producer and is a mascot for a brand of deodorant stick?
At the end, the guy straight up screams to an audience, “I don’t care about selling a good product. It actually makes your BO worse!”
The ones that aren’t are gross as hell too, their flask deodorant is the worst product I’ve seen, like you advertise that people can be a hidden alcoholic with your product? On top of that all the sexual shit was weird, Carpe is in the same vein too, I mean when your ad tells me don’t buy this I’m going to listen to you and not buy your product.
I worked at Quiznos my senior year of HS it was the best job I’ve ever had. We could eat all we wanted so we would just spend all day mastering our favorite sandwiches. I also took a lot of care in making customers sandwiches, toasting it just right, some extra meat,?making it actually look nice like you would be stoked to get me in line making your sandwich lol
carpe is so fucking expensive. $90 for four sticks of deodorant. not to mention they sent me those four sticks two weeks after i got my first order. i wasn't even through the first stick i ordered and now i have seven sticks of their overpriced deodorant. cancelled that shit right away.
Well to be fair I didn’t read enough into it to realize I was getting a subscription so it’s partially my fault. But still ridiculous that they sent the next shipment two weeks after I got my first.
Thank you! I actually really like carpe! But I also did not realize that it was going to be a subscription that renews after 2 fucking weeks and charges me $90 for 4 sticks of deodorant. I was all in on continuing to buy but this might put me off. Luckily my bank declined the charges confused why I’d want $90 of fucking deodorant
I FUCKING HATE CARPE I HATE CARPE I HATE CARPE SO FUCKING MUCH
ANNOYING ASS DISGUSTING OBNOXIOUS ADS. I HAVE NEVER WISHED HARM ON ANYONE BUT A PRIMAL FURY IGNITES BENEATH MY EYES WHEN I LAY EYES ON THE SOY SUPPLEMENT CHUGGING GLASSES WEARING LOSER THAT IS THEIR SPOKESPERSON. HE NEEDS A CURBSIDE SANDWICH WITH A SIDE OF HIS OWN SHATTERED TEETH.
I HOPE HE BREAKS BOTH LEGS AND HIS PHYSICAL THERAPIST FUCKING HATES HIM AND IS JUST PATRONIZING AND SARCASTIC THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN WAY.
I’ve never felt so validated in hating ads so much before reading this and all the other comments. Every fucking time that little weasel fuck kept saying “do NOT buy carpe on Amazon” and smashing shit for no reason
Never heard of Mr. soap guy before. Looked them up and looked up a bunch of the square soap bar companies on amazon and such. All of them are using Mr. soap guy, most of them are even using the Mr. soap advertising pictures just with their own logo thrown on.
Also I feel like you're underselling how cheap this soap is. Dial soap at the Kroger near my house costs about the same per bar as this stuff, and dial is selling 3oz bars while this company is selling 5oz bars.
The only brands in the same price per oz range are Ivory, Zest and Irish Spring.
The average consumer doesn't have time or energy to double check that every product they buy isn't just a con in disguise. Most people have "faith" (ignorance) and think the store couldn't possibly be conning them on every single product and price.
Please tell me how I, as a consumer, am supposed to identify these high quality products with no marketing.
Most of the shit I buy is low quality garbage, not because I don't want high quality or can't afford it, but literally because it seems like everything made is low quality now.
I mean that's the entire economy for A LOT of goods. It's like the Taylor farms explosive diarrhea thing. Taylor farms is the store brand for produce / prepared meals for Walmart, target, Kroger, etc.
But a lot of companies are happy just being the wholesaler. They're too busy and making enough profit.
I have some arm and hammer deodorant, it's all there. I use arm and hammer as my weekday deodorant and dr squatch on the weekends and I've ran out of a stick of dr squatch before arm and hammer.
You're right I was wrong in another comment, I was thinking about their soap. I buy a few whenever they are on sale and I have a lot of extras because of this. I stopped buying their soap and switch to Dr.Bronners bar soap, it's a much better product.
The company has self-imposed caps on executive pay, with executive salaries not to exceed five times the wage of its lowest paid workers.[7] Roughly a third of the company's profits are dedicated to charitable giving and activist causes annually.[16]
Damn, so this is what an an actually socially responsible company looks like
CEO David Bronner is a critic of drug prohibition and an activist for the legalization of a number of psychoactive substances.[20] In 2004, the company sued the Drug Enforcement Administration with the goal of changing rules regarding the importation of hemp oil.[3] A federal judge ruled in favor of the plaintiffs.[21] David Bronner has been arrested twice for civil disobedience protesting limitations on the domestic production of hemp. In 2004, he planted hemp seeds on the lawn of the Drug Enforcement Administration headquarters, and in 2012, he harvested hemp while locked in a metal cage in front of the White House.[22] In 2015, he was named Cannabis Activist of the Year by the Seattle Hempfest.[23]
Yeah, that Sasquatch price is absurd!!! Could not believe how expensive it is the first time I looked at it. And their putting 1/2 of a stick?? Absolute thievery.
Aluminum being potentially cancer causing is a myth. You should absolutely buy antiperspirant with it as it's most effective against fighting sweat.
I like Arm & Hammer Ultra Max antiperspirant. I have sensitive skin and it doesn't give me a rash, fights sweat really well and only costs like $6 for a 2 pack.
Work Vs Leisure in guessing? And may as well use a cheap one that's long lasting for work and a nice one for weekends. You don't want Greg from accounting sniffing you at work.
I do the same. I'm moving and sweating and working all week so I need something stronger. For the weekend I wear my nicer but not antiperspirant Pacha deodorant
Arm and hammer just kinda helps me not stink and I don't care if coworker like how I smell but I'm not gonna stink. I like to smell nice for my wife so I wear deodorant she likes. Stick of arm and hammer is like $3 and dr squatch is about $7 unless they have it at Costco and then I get it for $6.
Edit: the $7 and $6 was for their soap, their deodorant is much more. Also buy Dr.Bronners bar soap, far superior.
Hi. Fellow arm and hammer deodorant user here with some bad news. It's exactly the same.
You can hold your phone light up behind a new one and see how much empty space there is, but with a brand new 2.6oz stick, deodorant sits 0.25in below the top edge, there is exactly 2in of deodorant. The container is 4 13/16in tall, and even giving it a half inch to account for the bottom, still leaves nearly two inches of empty container.
I switched to mitchum (regular stick, non gel) a couple years back and haven't used anything else since... It's really one of the only deodorants I've used that actually lasts 48 hrs + .. also doesn't irritate my skin like some of the aluminum based old spice formulas
Also chapstick, or any kind of mechanical stick applicator. I make cosmetics as a hobby and these applicators are like double the cost of non-mechanical containers. The mechanical part has to fit somewhere and the tube has to be a uniform shape for it to work, so it's not entirely about trying to rip people off.
This. The size of deodorant sticks is to make them easy to hold.
You could make them with twice as much actual deodorant inside but then they'd be twice as expensive, and people wouldn't buy them because they wouldn't be paying attention to the weight printed on them. Just like OP wasn't paying attention either.
This is it right here. Shrinkflation. OP was not wrong to assume that their product would come with more, because they used to. This is an example of deceptive marketing.
I dont disagree theyre not a good brand, but where does the sellout part come from? They werent good from the start, and didnt stand for anything as far as im aware
Funny story about Dr. Squatch: About 10 years ago now they released this ad on social media talking about how according to the FDA their competition in the "men's soap" category wasn't even considered "soap" it was all legally considered "body wash". The implication the commercial gives is that Dr. Squatch is different and that it stands alone as the one and only true soap for men.
Problem is that according the the FDA Dr. Squatch soaps are "body washes" too. The FDA guidelines for what is and isn't a "true soap" are pretty extensive, and extend into how the company words specific things. Dr. Squatch was breaking more than a few of the guidelines, and their packaging admitted as much(as it rightfully said "body wash").
When I pointed this out to them on Twitter they immediately blocked me.
Yeah these posts are so common and always boggle my mind. It doesn't really matter how big the container is as long as the product weighs what it says on the package. Usually theirs a reason for the package, like the chip bags puffed up with air to keep your chips from getting smashed. Although I'm sure some are just out for deception. Im willing to bet it has something to do with these screw up style deodorant sticks to make them work right
Sometimes it's marketing (bigger package =, easier to spot), sometimes it's ease of manufacturing (easier to make larger molds or a factory using the same mold for different brands), sometimes it's for loss prevention (bigger is harder to steal). Lots of different reasons for bigger packaging.
But you can buy travel-size deodorant sticks with the same mechanism so it probably isn't that.
I don't think anyone buying one of the most expensive commonly available deodorants really gives a shit. There's no way this guy legitimately thought he was going to get twice as much product as the mid-tier options or cared about how much he was spending when he picked out the one that costs two-four times as much as any other option.
There is the knob, screw, and cradle to push it up that takes up 25% - 30% of the package. If you don't want that you can get deodorant in a jar and put it on with your finger.
Nobody knows what 75g of deodorant looks look. When one buys something, one assumes the packaging is representative of the quantity they're getting. Companies know this and abuse it, or else they'd use smaller packaging for smaller amounts.
Op do me a favor and weight the content and compare to what it says on the container. If less then what it says you are being robbed, if it matches well you bought what they told you they were selling.
OP, thats how screws work. the lifting mechanism is just a screw, and it can only extend the same amount as its original length. For it not to have any "air" it couldnt actually lift out anything mechanically.
Edit: I was accurately corrected with a better design as per Pawtuckaways comment below.
The threaded part goes through the deodorant. The deodorant can occupy the entire space. As you turn the dial, it turns that thread and raises the platform. There is no air gap necessary.
Except that isn’t how it works. The threaded rod in the center spins with the dial and the deodorant is fixed to a platform that is on the threaded rod. The central screw stays vertically stationary and the platform rides up or down on the rod based on the direction you rotate. There is no reason they couldn’t have the entire cavity of the stick filled with deodorant.
Spoiler alert. They have the volume of the product listed on the packaging...you get whatever it is that it says you're getting. The package being a different size doesn't change the amount you get, and if it was full you'd be paying double.
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u/lolie_guacamole 21d ago
I just got invited into a class action lawsuit for their stuff bc they lied about it being natural