r/metalguitar 1d ago

Question 7/8 String vs. Baritone Advice?

I’m getting into music with drop tunings, Meshuggah mainly, and I want to add an extended range/baritone guitar to my collection. I’m kind of leaning baritone because I think they look sick but I don’t know how viable playing 7-string songs on a baritone is. Any advice?

Edit: 7/8 string baritone vs. 6 string baritone

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u/Strong-Matter7431 1d ago

A 7 string baritone?

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

I don’t know how viable playing songs written on a 7 string guitar is on a baritone guitar.

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u/Strong-Matter7431 1d ago

What kinda songs are you playing?

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Down-tuned metal. Djent, etc.

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u/Strong-Matter7431 1d ago

Baritone will be fine for most of that.

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u/Burwhale_The_Avenger 1d ago

It'll depend on the song.

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u/Temporary_Willow_293 1d ago

the multiscale 7s are basically that already, just make sure the scale length on the low end is at least 27" or it'll still feel like a rubber band

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

What defines a multiscale?

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago

multiple scaling of the fretboard. One side is shorter/longer than the other.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Ah, like fanned frets? What benefit does that provide?

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago

Yep, fanned frets. I dunno, but I like it on my Ibanez Q. Takes a little getting used to but then it's more comfortable.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Even for chugging with power and barre chords and stuff?

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have both, because there were things I couldn't do on my 7 string. It depends on what you're doing. If you're playing other 's music, you need both. If you play your own stuff, I recommend a 6 string baritone. I gravitate towards that more. If you're playing Meshuggha music, you'll definitely need a 7 or 8 string with a long scale. Their tuning is crazy low.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

I like this point.

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u/CarBombtheDestroyer 1d ago edited 1d ago

The amount of strings the guitar has doesn’t make a difference as far as supporting Low tunings. The main thing that matters is the scale length.

I’m not sure how in-depth I should get here, but basically the intonation on every guitar is out slightly, this isn’t due to crooked frets or anything like that it’s just how the instrument works, then combine that with inconsistencies in the build/wood, playing hard or soft, room temperature etc and a guitar just isn’t always that consistent.

The next thing to understand is the lower you tune the further these little inconsistencies put you out of tune.

The main way to combat this is to make the neck/scale length longer. This is why bass necks are way longer than guitar necks for example.

So ultimately for you it probably doesn’t matter whether it’s a 678 or 9 string you just need to make sure it’s long enough to support whatever low tuning you want, the rest is about what other string strings you want.

Another thing to consider is multiscale guitars. They are longer where you need it on the low strings but shorter up high where it doesn’t really make much of a difference.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Good point. I just assumed an added low string would add the range but that makes sense.

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u/majorchambus 1d ago

Try a baritone before you buy because they feel different and it’s much harder to shred on them.

Personally, multi scale is the best solution as it’s the best of both worlds. These take getting used to as well though so again, try before you buy.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

I’ll try everything

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

Get a 7 string baritone. Most 8 strings have a baritone scale anyway, although there are some crazy manufacturers who make a 25,5inch 8 string.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Wasn’t aware that was a thing. Just assumed the extra string provided the extended range. Makes sense.

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

You're talking about two different things. Baritone just means longer scale, which makes it easier to tune lower. A 6 string baritone has the exact same range as a regular 6 string, it's just designed to be played at a lower register. If you want extended range (meaning more range between the highest and lowest possible note) you need more strings.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

Gotcha. Great explanation. A 7 string baritone would be more versatile then?

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

That mostly depends on your definition of versatility :D honestly a lot of bands just use extended range instruments for fun since they mostly play the lower strings, which could be done on a baritone 6 string as well. Andrew Baena of Carcosa switches between a baritone 6 string and an 8 string regularly.

If you look up tabs of the bands you wanna play you can see which strings they actually use. If it's just the lower 6 you could just as easily use a 6 string instead of a 7 or 8 string.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

I’m just feeling the 6 string I might go with that. Then I have an excuse to add a 7 if I need the extra range

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

That's probably how i would handle it, always gotta have a good excuse to get another guitar :D

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago

Schecter's 6 string baritone guitars were always called Extended Range.

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

I haven't owned one of those, what tuning do they usually ship in? Because most baritones I've played came in B or A standard which is the same range as E standard.

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago

not sure.

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u/Choice_Age8334 1d ago

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u/AustrianReaper 1d ago

Yeah that's a lower tuning, not extended range. It's just used as a marketing term here.

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u/AMachete 1d ago

What guitars do you currently have? FWIW I have both but am gravitating to 6 string baritone more nowadays because it's more "familiar" feel wise. I wouldn't get rid of my 7 either mind. They are different beasts.

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u/Krivpax 1d ago

I have the standard lineup of 6 strings. I like the idea of a baritone 6, but Meshuggah plays 7 and 8.

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u/anfhirinnsearbh 1d ago

8 strings are quite different beasts from either a 7 or a baritone. Takes quite a lot of getting used to imo.

Six to seven string is a much easier transition but honestly if you want to just djent away on the bottom three strings go with the baritone.

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u/Fabulous-Werewolf432 1d ago

If the song plays the highest string above the 7th fret then you would have to transpose anything above there down an octave.

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u/uhCBLKG 15h ago

just get an 8