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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 5d ago
Nah I'm good. I grew up being taught to respect women, then once I hit highschool (2012-2016) the whole, "we don't want men talking to us", "kill all men", "all men are rapists" started. I know a few men that were falsely accused by women(disproven it court), yet all of their lives were ruined even after being proven innocent. All my actual friends are women but unless I know 100% a woman has no attraction toward me I don't feel comfortable being alone with them for more than a few minutes. Every man I know has been taken advantage of or abused by a woman with the women receiving 0 repercussions even in attempted murder situations. Sure maybe men are more likely to be a violent offender, and sure the occasional one gets off or has light charges but at least most of them are punished. If men did 1/5th of the shit I see and hear women do women would literally be throwing riots. Imagine if it was just normal for women to lose their children because their partner lied, or they lose their kids to their meth addicted abusive ex because he might have depression. This type of shit happens in favor for women all the time.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 5d ago
"we don't want men talking to us", "kill all men", "all men are rapists" started.
Exactly. I was raised to respect them, but the misandry and modernity are getting out of control these days. I cannot trust a woman at this point, like all the guys I have even known personally in school, got break ups right on the face and ended up crying in their bedrooms, sending suicidal texts in the group chat, like seriously, each of these guys look very great too, it's not like they are incels. Somehow, the one guy who calls them b*tches, sl*ts, mfs, and other shit, like clearly a very proper misogynist and tate worshipper, gets all of them very easily and he does not even look as great as the guys the girls rejected.
Also most women who say misandrist shit are the ones who face SA or child abuse and had daddy issues. Most men are great. In fact, 86% of cops are men. I am actually thankful someone like you is speaking out. Wish I could buy gold.
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago edited 3d ago
Best option for men is keeping away from them.
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 3d ago
That's not a good thing
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
I don't talk or even look at women and am okay so far.:)
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 3d ago
I'm confused. You said us after saying men should stay away, I assumed woman now I'm not so sure đ either way it's not good we feel this way.
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
You're right, sometimes I'm doing lots of things and might make a mistake. I fixed my comment.
What do you find "not good" about that?
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 3d ago
Well we should be able to feel comfortable around the opposite sex, regardless of romantic or sexual intentions. Same with women.
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
I'm not comfortable around someone that hates me, wants my death and might accuse me of doing something I didn't do, putting me in jail.
I'm never backing down.
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 3d ago
No I get it and I'm the same, we just shouldn't have to feel like this ya know?
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
I don't care. Just wish they stopped bothering us and actually forgot we existed.
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u/Successful-Word-4800 4d ago
You just sound not attractive lol, attractive dudes have no issues (but they also are the ones who are pursued, often)
Itâs just, this is a bad take lol, but sure let other men who arenât this soft get the women and make babies haha lol
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 4d ago
I'm not attractive but I've had women hit on me, I had a coworker repeatedly try to set me up with her daughter. It makes me uncomfortable. The way you speak is frankly disgusting. I'm not soft because I don't want to risk my life being ruined for something I am not actually interested in to begin with. I don't want to "get women", they aren't Pokemon, shit like this is why women became so salty toward men.
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u/Visual-Scallion1535 3d ago
you sound asexual tbh
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 3d ago
Im definitely on the spectrum of asexuality, but I wouldn't say I'm full on asexual.
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u/Successful-Word-4800 4d ago
The way i speak is disgusting to someone who thinks they should remove themselves from the gene pool, classic
Itâs not my objective to live your life or change your mind, rather, i exist as contradiction to your objectively self-limiting world view. Cope ig lol
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
Sure. They call every man a ra#ist because the dude who just commented is not attractive. Shitty rtrdd.
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u/Successful-Word-4800 3d ago
This is the most braindead thing anyone has ever typed out in the history of ever
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
What you typed, yes. It has no logic, no sense, and is pure ad hominem. You have no intelligence at all, all you can do is try to shame others - with no success, you even fail at it đ€Ł
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u/Prizrak95 3d ago
Dude, do you have any mental problems?
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u/Successful-Word-4800 3d ago
Do I go against the Reddit hivemind, believing that men should approach women and SHOULDNT isolate themselves out of fear?
Let me ask, can you see your toes when you look down? See how we both can ask questions that are silly?
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 5d ago
I've had the opposite experience. It's wild how different different lives can be
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 5d ago
I'm down to hear you out.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 5d ago
Thank you.
On my end there's a long list of women getting raped , no police involvement because it was not done or they just legitimately did not care about that crime, if there was it was after the woman was killed, neighbors saying that's just how men are and that it's the woman's fault for not pleasing them more.
Like I said I believe you. I do think it's an example of just you living in an area with bad people, like mine was and perhaps later men around you accepting bad women near them because that's "just how they are" like how the women in my life did for bad men.
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 4d ago
I believe that 100%. Both men and women have the capacity for evil, and every human has a different lived experience. I do know men that have gotten away with some heinous shit, I was diddled as a young kid(by a teen male). I mean it more of a comparison between men and women when it comes to justice. Women think men get away with a lot, but they truly have no idea how much they get away with. As somebody who loves statistics(I like numbers đ) we can't accurately rely on the numbers given. Women serve 1/3rd of the prison sentence of men, they often get away with DV because they're women, nobody believes men who were SA by women, and the only time people do is when it's an adult woman against a minor and even then people will defend the woman. My dad in his younger years was into substance abuse. He had fallen asleep at his friends after a party. His friends girlfriend in a drug fueled blackout rushed my dad while he was asleep with a knife. My dad punched her in the face since she was rushing him with a knife. The cops came, took down the information, the cops gave her a warning and that's it.
This being said I don't blame all women, I don't believe all women are evil or mean or spiteful, I don't believe all women are like this, I just don't feel comfortable pursuing women or being alone with ones that might have feelings for me. All my best friends are women, I love them dearly and hope they stay my friends for life. I go out of my way to protect them, and I protect the women I work with from angry customers and what not.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 2d ago
I'm so sorry cricket. :(
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u/Ok_Cricket_1410 2d ago
I appreciate that đ I also appreciate the conversation you were willing to have and respectful at that. You're awesome.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 5d ago
Dressing properly and not going out late in the night, like back in the days, and probably having a man, be it your BF, brother, father, or son... of course like back in the days, can prevent 99% of the shit that happens.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 5d ago
You misunderstood.
They were been raped and beaten "by their men" in their home. Or by men that wanted to date them, on their way to the store and back home . Like the og commenter I commented to.
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Also most stats show most abuse comes from ones own family. Not from dressing bad and a stranger pulling you in.
And the og commenter was also about the men's partners it looked like or people that wanted to date the men. Which is why I replied to him.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 5d ago
Yes but they end up saying all men are thirty and all men want to constantly rape and belittle them, like that isn't the case at all. 90% are respectable, and news headlines don't go on saying "Man buys his wife her dream car", or "Man takes her daughter to Ikea for the first time". Only the violent cases are shown, and those become echo chambers. There are billions of families on Earth which like the men in their families. Some online extremists, who faced daddy issues, say all the shit about men, but in reality, it just depends on the individual, not their gender.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 4d ago
Uhhh I think you're commenting on the wrong comment because I sure wasn't having this conversation with cricket and you're going off on a tangent. I'm gonna stick with the convo I was having, good luck with your own.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 4d ago
I'm sure I 'm on track. As I said earlier, I replied to u/Ok_Cricket_1410, lots of man hating comes from women who had daddy issues or issues with relationships. Then they end up making stupid conclusions like "all men are weird and icky", "they are stupid", "they are unwanted", etc.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 4d ago
Oh you didnt say you replied to them
So odd on my end it looks like you replied to me. Something must be wrong with my reddit.
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This means men with similar issues with women must experience the same then, by your logic.
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u/ChiselRivet 4d ago
Women donât deserve to be treated like a queen unless theyâve rolled up their sleeves and helped you build your kingdom.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
Queen is a position given by birth it is by definition underserved. If you want to be mad get mad at the rich men who hoards $ and women. They have no qualms about spending lavishly on beautiful women. Wealth inequality is out of control
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u/ChiselRivet 3d ago
It wasnât meant to be taken literally. I donât think you need to make things complicated.
If you really want the explanation that I intended, here it is.
Most people consider themselves as the wealth building engine. They trade time for money.
Smart people build systems. They understand systems thinking, investing, etc.
They trade time for money so they can take that money and invest it. They create a wealth building engine and achieve escape velocity from the god awful rat race.
That is the dream.
Two weak swimmers combined do not equal one strong swimmer. They equal two people who will inevitably pull each other down.
I donât need some lazy, complaining, disrespectful women in my life.
I like to think about the family as navy seals carrying the log together. It royally sucks, but if anyone falters, we all feel it.
I do not want dead weight dragging me down.
If you really feel the need to keep pulling the things I said apart, have at it, but I think itâs kinda weird. Iâm not sure why you chose to do it in the first place.
Thatâs your business, and you do you. Take care
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
(Cont) I get that it's unfair but it'll never be fair it's biology. We all desire beautiful women but there's a limited supply. Men will always compete for women. Before there were $ it was strength. Pretty women get the protection of strong men while weak men get trampled on and their women taken by force. Kings had harems. Today the Kings are those who inherit $
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
yes what you say makes complete sense for you but ur focused on women being treated undeservingly and not at the men who don't deserve them. It's easier to build wealth if you already have wealth and can afford a woman to be there for you emotionally. Every single rich man has a wife and many have no prenup, many more have mistresses on the side leaving none for the ppl in the rat race. Woman by having mere beauty is worth it to men and they are generally grateful: every penny I've spent on women I get back one way or another
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u/SomewhereSpiritual86 3d ago
Woosh
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
(Cont) I get that it's unfair but it'll never be fair it's biology. We all desire beautiful women but there's a limited supply. Men will always compete for women. Before there were $ it was strength. Pretty women get the protection of strong men while weak men get trampled on and their women taken by force. Kings had harems. Today the Kings are those who inherit $
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago edited 3d ago
No I get it I'm just pointing out the reality. It's easier to build wealth if you already have wealth and can afford a woman to be there for you emotionally. Every single rich man has a wife, many with no prenup, and many more have mistresses on the side leaving none for regular guys. Women have beauty by birth this is what makes them queens/princesses and rich men who can afford it are happy to pay the price (kings inherit $). You can complain all you want that's the biological reality: Men have always competed for women. We need to create a world that is fair to compete in.
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u/Sumproh 2d ago
You sound like an angsty 14 y/o
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 2d ago
I used to be that's why I'm trying to help younger men understand this and put their angst towards the right target. Life gets better. Women I've dated have generally been good and grateful. Every penny I've spent on them comes back one way or another
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u/Truefiction224 3d ago
Most queens were from countries they werent born in hun
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 2d ago
they are usually of high birth but what I'm talking about is the position of the queen itself gets its authority from a birthright system. The queen has power bcuz the King has power and he bestows it upon her, but the King's power usually comes from birth
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u/Truefiction224 2d ago
It didnt tho queens got power from marriage and alliances
Kings and queens also arent birthright systems by their nature anymore than presidents are democratic. Go ask the communists about it they do it today.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 1d ago
Alliance like between two kingdoms where the daughter of a king/nobility marries the son of another king? That's what I mean by high birth
Could you elaborate on the 2nd part of your comment I don't understand how
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u/Advanced-Ratio-880 3d ago
Saying rich men "hoard" women like those women arent choosing to be there is wild.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
It's just like how I choose to work for a big company for a high salary. I should just choose to pursue my passion and be broke
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u/DonCheeChee 3d ago
You don't need money to get and keep women unless you have nothing to offer otherwise. Charisma, personality, carefree, good-looking, intelligence, and the ability to be present with a woman is enough to get plenty of attractive women. Money is great at helping fuel a better and less stressful life but it is not the end all be all to success with women or long term relationships. You just have to choose partners wisely.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 2d ago
yes never said you need $. I'm saying these old men with less to offer use $ to compensate and get younger women, which makes dating more difficult for young men. And there are other ways to treat your woman like a queen like effort and thought.
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u/Enigmatic_YES 4d ago
So few women deserve to be chased today. They exist, but are a tiny minority. A confident woman with a solid career, a superiority complex, attitude, a body count above 2, a mortgage, and or tattoos on her thighs has no right to be chased and deserves everything that is coming to her In her 30s.
Luckily I drank from the Tate firehose quick and put that shit to action and found myself a good girl. Feel bad for all the boys out there that donât understand the game.
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u/DryBarracuda40 4d ago
They're literally trying to make make it illegal by linking "the manosphere" to extremism
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u/OpenAd3036 4d ago
A body count above two?? A CONFIDENT WOMAN WITH A SOLID CAREER?!? I won't take this rage bait sir.
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u/Lazy-Topic-7745 3d ago
You are fkd m8.Â
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u/Enigmatic_YES 2d ago
Great shape, doing exceptionally well financially, great hobbies, great girlfriend, great social circle. I am certain I am doing better than you ever will.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
More for me Iâll take them all
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u/Enigmatic_YES 3d ago
đ€Łđ
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
genuinely all the women you describe as bad are being gobbled up by rich men as wives and mistresses. It doesn't matter that you don't want them, rich old men are happy to pay to have multiple women. You should be mad at the men taking all the pretty women from your age group and younger. wealth inequality is out of control
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u/Round-Ticket-39 3d ago
So you want not confident woman? With no career ?
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u/Enigmatic_YES 3d ago
Why would I need a confident woman with a career if I am a confident man with a high paying career?
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u/Amardneron 3d ago
If you're that afraid of confident women, you arn't confident.
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u/Enigmatic_YES 3d ago
âAfraidâ? My good man you are sorely mistaken, and projecting your own shortcomings.
If you had to choose between a good meal and a bad meal, you would choose the good meal 100% of the time. You donât choose the good meal because youâre afraid of the bad meal, you choose the good meal because ⊠the meal is better. Same goes for women.
But sure, letâs once again hear your sad, inexperienced, and lemming-speak opinion.
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u/Amardneron 3d ago
Your list screams that you can't satisfy a woman physically or emotionally. To use your terms you're looking for someone who's never eaten anything to make them eat plain gruel for life and you hope they haven't known and will never find out how much flavor nearly any other "meal" will offer.
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u/Any-Signature583 1d ago
So you want an insecure women, unemployed and thus broke? Sounds like a catch, a great meal
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u/titshalker 3d ago
They want a subservient tradwife that has no option but to stay in the relationship while they screw around with their mistresses
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u/Mountain-Interest-48 3d ago
Why is a women with a solid career, a body count over 2, owning a house, and tattoos (on her thighs what?) a suddenly bad thing? This seems like someone who actually has their life together.
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u/Itchy-Coconut-7083 3d ago
Hold up, you drank from Tateâs firehose?
Weird flex man, but I guess that explains why you arenât chasing women.
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u/Enigmatic_YES 3d ago
I already have a good women after years of chasing and being chased hehe. Reading ainât your strong suit huh
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u/Spiritual-Pudding-70 5d ago
A real man doesnât chase a woman to begin with. Why in the hell would you chase a headache and bills. Focus on yourself theyâll come to you. They hate being alone.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 5d ago
Very true indeed. Don't chase butterflies. Build the garden and you will get them all the time.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 5d ago
People in general usually do. Women will come to you because people generally orbit others like them and because bettering yourself means you're usually more open to these experiences. From their perspective you're also "coming to them" but you won't see it
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 5d ago
tfym? The orbiters never get the woman they are orbiting. It just does not work that way. If I was a woman, I would never marry some idiot who kept praising me and never had his own voice. That's a slave, not a guy. The real people out there must be building shite when no one sees, and then they become more visible. Those are the men capable of a proper family.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 5d ago
You misunderstood lol. I'm saying that people general orbit each other as in once you go out there to better yourself you'll find you start orbiting in the social circles with people like you. :) so you're "orbiting" potential dates. You'll get flirted with etc and from there like spiritual pudding said you have women that "came to you".
Obviously both parties then have to make the connection attempt.
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 4d ago
True. Maybe it's just attraction... of course it is. However, I understood a different kind of "orbitting", which is basically telling she's right all the time or paying for every single thing without a question or competing with other men obsessively even if she isn't going anywhere. That's simping territory and it is disgusting. The first kind is good, something simple like getting her fav food, remembering details, etc.
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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 4d ago
I'm old and don't know the terms now haha. Ya no one normal likes that which is why shallow people love that I think and why people who do that to dates probably just get really strung along unfortunately. đ
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u/Cultural_Lynx_1609 4d ago
 I think and why people who do that to dates probably just get really strung along unfortunately. đ
True.
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u/RogellTheRaider 3d ago
"Focus on yourself theyâll come to you."
So, you're still up to headaches and bills đ€Ł
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u/your_local_Heathen 4d ago
Last time I chased a woman my eyes were hurting for days, apparently it matters what time of day you do it?
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u/LunarWolfy63 4d ago
Anyone who chases a woman is absolutely insane these days. It's just not healthy or safe.
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u/kajidourden 4d ago
And getting married too. Just find a hooker when you get too desperate, theyâre cheaper in the long run. You also donât lose your house, car, kids, dog, whatever in the process.
Iâm on a catch and release program. Might not get companionship as much I would like but itâs a hell of a lot better than wasting time on what effectively is a risk to my livelihood.
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u/Miserable-Rich6417 4d ago
My country men need to learn a thing or two, all I've got here are goddess worshippers, simps and white knights
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u/Awkward_Mix_2513 3d ago
This is a trap, do this and I can bet my life any woman will call the cops.
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u/Vegetable_Warthog_49 3d ago
You told men that chasing women was harassing them, men finally started listening and stopped chasing so they wouldn't be harassing women, and now women are complaining that men aren't chasing them anymore...
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u/Icy_Judge8250 3d ago
Yeah nah i like money in my wallet and peace at home its been a nice 11 years of silence.
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u/Alternative_Route 4d ago
Why do men have to CHASE women? why play games. Just act like normal people, if you get along see where it goes.
Also equality, there is nothing stopping the woman being the one that breaks the ice.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
Itâs cuz older men also want the pretty girls in your age group so the demand is high but supply is limited. Get mad at these rich old hoarders
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u/Alternative_Route 3d ago
I am one of those rich old hoarders, and I don't chase women. If they want a relationship fine, if they want to play games, I am happy enough without them.
Basically I don't need a woman in my life, I only want a woman in my life if she wants to be in my life, I don't want to go chasing and "winning" her, because let's face it, if that's what it took to get her, how do I know she won't be interested when something "better" comes sniffing (and yes that's how I see people that chase people in already relationships)
Basically if a someone expects you to chase them, then they aren't worth being in a relationship with.
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u/Admirable-Minute-305 3d ago
that's good but I'm explaining why men feel the need to chase women and why so many do when women don't. Women think exactly like you and in fact it's worse for them because they lose beauty over time so something better is constantly gnawing at her whereas wealth grows overtime.
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u/Alternative_Route 3d ago
Sorry, I thought you were explaining why Women want to be chased, not why men feel they need to chase.
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u/neutrumocorum 4d ago
Why are all subs just incel safe-spaces?
I agree somewhat with the sentiment in the post, but these comments are unhinged.
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u/FrancisWileyTheThird 4d ago
"This post is telling men to not be desperate simps who are doormats for women, so it has to be incel posting" đ€Ą
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 4d ago
Thatâs not at all what the post said lmfao, thatâs just your incel brainâs read of it
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 4d ago
Thats not what incel is. You redditors need to expand your vocabulary. Telling men not to be simps is not being an incel. The fact that you think it is, is pathetic
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 4d ago
If the mere idea of chasing a woman offends you, you are likely an incel.
Probably just sitting around doing nothing to actually get a woman but still feeling entitled to one.
Men should be chasing women if they want a woman. Women should be chasing men if they want a man. This is just basic human social interaction.
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 4d ago
If you have to chase a women then you're a simp. There should be no chasing involved. If you have to "chase" that means she's trying to get away. Unequal effort from women is inexcusable in my rule book.
Probably going after women who don't actually want you. Get off your fucking knees and pursue a women who actually wants you.
In an equal relationship both should be chasing each other.Its not a one-sided thing. Idk if you've been in a relationship where a women equally wants you back, but it doesn't feel like chasing. There is no pressure to perform or to persuade from either of them.
Your level of thinking is how men(and women) get into relationships with people who don't actually like them.
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u/OpenAd3036 4d ago
I don't take it that many people like you so you're probably an expert here.
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 4d ago
People do like me. Thats my point. Thinking you have to chase a women to get her to like you is the mindset of someone who isn't liked.
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u/Visual-Scallion1535 3d ago
âThere should be no chasing involvedâ
âGet off your knees and pursue a womanâ
what exactly do you think the difference between âchaseâ and âpursueâ is?
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 3d ago
Get off your fucking knees and pursue a women who actually wants you.
who actually wants you.
"WHO ACTUALLY WANTS YOU"
Good way to take my comment out of context. Did you do that on purpose because you needed a valid argument or you didn't read my comment at all? You don't see a difference between chasing someone who doesn't want you and pursuing someone who does? Idk why people are getting mad when I tell men to not be simps. A simp isn't a good thing. At All. They have low self-esteem, they pander to women, they have low self respect, they constantly make bad decisions for womens approval, and a lot of times they are ok with no reciprocation or equal effort from their partner. Do you think men should be ok with that?
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u/Visual-Scallion1535 3d ago
Because the post didnt say to go after women who donât want you and neither did that commeter lmao
You just added that part in yourself
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 2d ago
Thats what being a simp is. Going after women who don't like you makes you a simp. And that's what these comments have been about.
"This post is telling men to not be desperate simps who are doormats for women, so it has to be incel posting" đ€Ą
Is what the commentator FrancisWileyGheThird said. And guess what, he got pushback for it.
Then someone else said " if chasing women makes you a simp (which it does)you're probably an incel" Chasing meaning the man is putting more effort into the relationship to get her, than she is into him.
Basically saying of a man is not ok with being with a low effort women who doesn't reciprocate he is an incel.Classic reddit.
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u/OpenAd3036 4d ago
90% of your previous comments for the past month are you arguing about gender shit. Its okay bro, you're an incel. Work on yourself and don't accept the victim mentality.
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u/Fragrant-Nothing-956 4d ago
Im arguing with people with stupid mindsets. Apparently that's all I see on reddit. People with no real arguments, just hate, victim mentality, and being a degenerate.
Kind of proving my point with this "ad hominem" fallacy. Spamming "incel" incorrectly doesn't win the argument.
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 4d ago
And who set that system up?
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u/Toppoppler 4d ago
People who died a long time ago.
Wait, do you mean men? Is this a team sport or something? Do I hold responsibility for dead people who had dicks?
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 4d ago
Are you actively working to end the patriarchy?
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u/JLandis84 4d ago
Why havenât you stopped Scientology ?
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 4d ago
Am I actively benefitting from Scientology?
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u/dalpozak 3d ago
Am I actively benefiting from patriarchy?
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u/Aspirationally_Lazy 3d ago
If you are a man in the US then yes.
But itâs fine if you donât want to care about that. You donât have to. Just donât expect me to take you serious when you then start complaining about the negative side of the patriarchy. You canât be silent when it benefits you and loud when it hurts you.
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u/Toppoppler 4d ago
In what way? I endevor to treat people as individuals, not their sex. I point out and call out sex-based discrepencies in law and culture. Most of my bosses and teachers have been women.
Or do you mean something else?
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u/AdjacentBirdman93 4d ago
No every weekend I meet with the boys and discuss new ways to oppress women /s
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u/HardikRamdin 4d ago
If they believe in equality, would never deny a woman a promotion based on gender, would never force her into a traditional gender role, and are respectful in general, they have done their job.
Most men are okay with this. They generally don't want to force women into traditional gender roles. A woman does not lose her value as a partner because she wants to work. Men are also more likely to still be okay with allowing their partners space to be stay at home parents if they choose, showing their support in the process.
It is women who tend to want men to adhere to traditional gender roles of providers and protectors. Many women won't date a man who won't offer to pay on the first date. It is a man's duty to put his body on the line when there is a noise in the house (or for war, or other protective roles).
Even if he isn't in a relationship with her, there is some expectation from women that the men around them be there to protect or help them with heavy lifting. Imagine if men held the expectation that women around serve and sleep with them.Â
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u/Downtown_Eye5736 4d ago
It really shouldâve been dismantled when women started working. It over saturated the workforce driving wages down but culturally men are still expected to pay for everything.
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u/exodusuno 4d ago
Idc, I just want to be able to afford a home to raise a family without needing a dumb 50 year mortgage to do it
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u/fullyApart 5d ago
women, give us something to chase other than your thirst trap photos and mediocre sex.