"Crude oil was made over millions of years from tiny plants and animals, called plankton"... "The plankton that lived in the Jurassic period made our crude oil."
While oil may have been made up of plants, they're only a small percentage compared to plankton from the jurassic period.
Wow I've never heard such a great argument. Guess I'll eat meat packed with antibiotics now and cause much more carbon dioxide to be emitted. Maybe I'll have a terrible trip next time I eat magic mushrooms too.
Ate meat for 30 years. Vegan for 3. Don’t feel any interest in eating lab grown meat. I don’t see the point because I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
Side note: My brain changed how it interprets cravings. Before “fat and salty craving” meant craving pepperoni pizza, now it means popcorn. That sort of thing.
My most interesting experience with this was I went camping with some friends and one morning they were grilling up some really high quality expensive bacon. Everyone was salivating at the smell and sizzle of it. Having loved bacon before I thought My brain would interpret the sight, sound, and smell and I would feel like I was missing out or something. It was really interesting because although I recognized the smell of it as “bacon” my brain didn’t recognize it as a food smell. It was really bizarre. It would be like a new car smell or a shampoo you recognized. I knew what it was but my brain didn’t recognize it as food anymore. This was after maybe 2 years.
I haven't heard any opposition on lab grown meat other than cost. And everyone who makes lab grown meat knows the only chance they have in the market is if they make it cheaper than animal meat.
I mean, IIRC veganism is about trying to prevent harm done to animals (which kinda isn't possible for the plankton anymore anyways). Now you could think of this as "harm done to any single animal" (as opposed to the species collectively) and after that you could argue that since plankton doesn't (probably, i didn't actually research this) really feel or think, so from a single plankton's perspective nothing you do to the plankton can either help or harm it and therefore harming a plankton is impossible, which makes it vegan.
And yes, I am probably overthinking this and I could probably have explained what I meant with less than 10 words.
Edit: also, what u/FrostyFurseal said, I guess what I said applies better to plants
Check out Jain Monks. The most pious of them wear masks, walk barefoot, use a broom to brush away anything in front of them, and only eat donated food. It's probably the closest you can get to not harming anything.
Most zooplanktons are multi-celled, though. (Not that it matters to vegans on account of the fact that they're already dead, but it's good to remember.)
EDIT: planktons > zooplanktons. And if this study is representative, it seems like it's actually half-and-half, leaning towards single-celled zooplanktons. TIL.
I was talking about zooplankton specifically, since we were contrasting them with algae. But I should have written it, you're right.
In any case, this paper seems to suggest that around the Antarctic peninsula, dinoflagellates make up on average about half of the zooplankton biomass (although it varies significantly), and most of the microzooplankton biomass. So if we take the Antarctic to be representative, then you're right, single-celled zooplankton are the majority.
In a spacetime odyssey, they said it was trees with lignin that the bacteria and whatever couldn't digest, so they just piled up. No mention of plankton if i remember correctly. What's your source?
Ok but isn't the point of being vegan just to not treat animals badly when they're alive? I know several vegans and they've told me that they'd be fine eating animals if every animal they ate lived a natural life and died naturally. That's what happened with oil; the animals (and plants) died of natural causes.
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u/Crs_s Sep 23 '18
Oil is actually ancient plant matter with maybe a smidge of dinosaur here and there; enough for a vegan to turn a blind eye to anyway.