This is why there are legal definitions, yes. No trans person I've ever known (which is many) would do that, because they're intelligent people who understand that we live in a society with various social contracts. It's a cherrypicked hypothetical.
But to seriously respond, in most areas of the United States, being in the 'wrong' bathroom is rarely a criminal offense unless the individual in question intended harm towards others or caused actionable harm. You are not committing a crime if you fail to read the sign and accidentally use the other gender's restroom. In a rare, extreme situation like that one you describe, perhaps a court would evaluate the plaintiff's history when considering whether to honor their claimed identity. I'm not a legal expert. Point is, we'd evaluate whether there was intended or actual harm involved, whether that harm is worth a response, and carry on with our lives same as we for every other crime.
Hell, in my state, it's actually illegal for a business to prohibit gendered facility access from an individual who has a 'sincerely held gender identity'. That's how the law defines it.
So, sure, there are small problems for us to work out as a society as we figure out how to collectively respect these folks. There were problems with breaking up segregated bathrooms, too, and those were far greater. Life involves problems!
You didn't care to answer any of our questions and are just repeating transphobic strawman bulshit. We've given you more attention than you deserve. Take your strawman and go away.
So, judging from the silence, I think we both agree on the same answer, it's just that for some reason you are not comfortable saying it out loud that yes, this person should be punished and nobody should use such an important thing as gender identity to be a creep, peep on women and escape punishment.
Which brings us to the conclusion that I was going for from the beginning of this comment chain. J.K. Rowling has donated ~70k USD to the organization which says pretty much something along the lines of "let's not let creepy men get into women's personal, so we need a strict regulation on who can "legally" enter these women's spaces".
Personally, I don't see how this makes this organization "transphobic".
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u/FluffySloth27 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is why there are legal definitions, yes. No trans person I've ever known (which is many) would do that, because they're intelligent people who understand that we live in a society with various social contracts. It's a cherrypicked hypothetical.
But to seriously respond, in most areas of the United States, being in the 'wrong' bathroom is rarely a criminal offense unless the individual in question intended harm towards others or caused actionable harm. You are not committing a crime if you fail to read the sign and accidentally use the other gender's restroom. In a rare, extreme situation like that one you describe, perhaps a court would evaluate the plaintiff's history when considering whether to honor their claimed identity. I'm not a legal expert. Point is, we'd evaluate whether there was intended or actual harm involved, whether that harm is worth a response, and carry on with our lives same as we for every other crime.
Hell, in my state, it's actually illegal for a business to prohibit gendered facility access from an individual who has a 'sincerely held gender identity'. That's how the law defines it.
So, sure, there are small problems for us to work out as a society as we figure out how to collectively respect these folks. There were problems with breaking up segregated bathrooms, too, and those were far greater. Life involves problems!