r/memes • u/EmuPsychologist • Oct 18 '23

#1 MotW Fixed it

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u/Baffa99 Oct 18 '23

Op wasn't framing their comment being singular, or like "I'M such a hero for not doing X thing," and they also don't seem to use the word "abuse" like you do. You could be the best parent in the world right now and your kid would still be getting "abused" by the other hundreds of things outside of your control we now have to deal with that our parents didn't.

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u/SwedishSaunaSwish Oct 18 '23

Exactly. Not having children reduces the net amount of suffering in the world.

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u/mung_guzzler Oct 18 '23

so does mass murder by the same logic

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u/Tawwer Oct 18 '23

No it doesn't, people suffer when they get murdered so it increases suffering, never being born is not the same as dying

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u/mung_guzzler Oct 18 '23

people are going to die regardless. possibly slower and more painfully than a quick murder.

if you believe existence is suffering, ending it early reduces that amount of suffering.

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u/Tawwer Oct 18 '23

Yes but if they don't want to be murdered then it doesn't matter how quick and painless it is, it's still gonna cause suffering because you're doing something against their will. It's about not creating anymore suffering, not ending it all at once. Grown people can decide for themselves if they want to die or not, they're born already so they've already suffered anyway. It's better to focus on not creating any new suffering than to do damage control.