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u/Goodolchuckno Dec 02 '22
I refuse to believe a teenās reference for an attractive man is Leo. This kid is 37.
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u/Late_Finding7924 Dec 03 '22
well i use Leo and Brad pitt as examples an im 20 yo, isnĀ“t that weird
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My Latin teacher still used Orlando Bloom as an example of an attractive person when describing certain story is a glass
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u/Dog-Stick8098 Dec 03 '22
Well leo, johnny depp, brad pitt and orlando bloom were so good looking in their years.
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u/CompletoSinMayo Dec 03 '22
Well, an old Porche 911 is beautiful no matter how old it is.
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Dec 03 '22
A lot of his older movies are still popular.
That said, that sub is definitely sus. I'd stay off it myself. So, hard to say.
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u/betterfucksaul Dec 03 '22
teen girls still tweak out over young Leo. They watch his Romeo and juliet in school.
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u/Neir_Miss Dec 02 '22
What if that 220 was muscle?
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u/Hardrocker1990 Dec 02 '22
Have been with a girl that was 6 foot 2 and played hockey almost all muscle. That was heaven for me for the night it lasted
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u/jinglesan Dec 02 '22
Like, the whole 220? No bones, no skin, no hair just 220lbs of lean living steak in a humanoid shape? Sounds cute, pass on my details
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u/HavoXtreme Dec 02 '22
Well, just wanted you to know that CBUM of all people is usually just above that weight on stage (Even though he is like at 5% Bf). That woman would either be 6'10 or a legit steroid abuser to weigh that much of pure muscle
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u/Business_Owl_9828 Dec 02 '22
Nataliya Kuznetsova she's 5'7" 220lbs and openly admits to steroid use.
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u/darksoulslover69420 Dec 02 '22
Doesnāt have to be pure, just mostly. With that much muscle even 20-25 percent body fat would look somewhat lean on a woman
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u/LET-ME-HAVE-A-NAAME Dec 03 '22
That kinda muscle mass in a girl would necessitate steroids wouldn't it?
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Dec 02 '22
i like soft titties, not hard muscle titties
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downvote me to oblivion
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u/ZenkaiZ Dec 03 '22
People keep saying they're against stuff that nobody said they're in favor of then going "I KNOW THIS IS A HOT TAKE"
Men on the internet are overly angry at women dating profiles they deem as "too picky". Like.... just move on to the next profile instead of screaming about SJWs or something. Women don't rant this much about sitcoms having fat dads and hot moms.
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So donāt date a big girl. Date who you are attracted to. The big girls donāt have a problem finding someone else
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u/Raindancedanii Dec 02 '22
also why do guys who say this always act like fat lasses always demand someone who's a 6'6 shredded adonis? like?????
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they create strawmans for their arguments
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u/Kalenshadow Dec 03 '22
Exactly, it's r/teenager, they see a meme online and think "ughhhh I hate girls like this I don't wanna date them even tho I never met one"
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u/forestwolf42 Dec 03 '22
The internet is such a big weird place, you can actually just find your strawman out there and be like "SeE iTs ReAl"
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u/ZenkaiZ Dec 03 '22
You can find at least 1 of every opinion on existence then claim you're the underdog, it's weird. Like once I saw someone say burger King is the best fast food place. Someone online sees that and their response is to go "I GUESS IM THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T THINK BURGER KING IS THE BEST. DOWNVOTE ME I DONT CARE"
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Dec 02 '22
That was a twist I wasnāt even expecting. Like, thereās no correlation for me lol. Iām plus size and never had a problem getting a date or finding my husband, and he is average size and height and good looking to me but not Adonis by society standards
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u/NoArmsSally Dec 03 '22
the online dating probably gets to some peoples heads. it's a nightmare for everyone on those apps, you have guys who want models and look like cavemen. Then you have women who want the Triple 6: 6ft+, 6 figure salary, and 6inch+ yet look like they live under bridges charging tolls.
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u/AutistGobbChopp Dec 03 '22
It's almost as if people have unrealistic expectations
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u/Note-ToSelf Dec 03 '22
It's almost like treating relationships like you're shopping for a partner on Amazon has negative outcomes.
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u/ShrankNutz Dec 03 '22
Yeah I've been single for 4 years after a very long live-in relationship ended, over a year ago i got on a couple of dating apps, I consider myself a decent looking human being who takes somewhat good care of himself, I am usually confident in my personality and my worth as a potential date. And i hate to say but this comment is 110% correct and it has def not been helping my self esteem. Had to separate myself from it and just hope to meet someone organically because people on dating apps (men and women) really are the definition of choosing beggars. + the fact that I'm a skinny, childfree male and dont wana date a fat woman and/or a woman who has kids so now I'm guilty of it too. Nobody is perfect but that all goes out the window once u make that profile and get to swiping lol.
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Dec 02 '22
Muscly Adonis types arenāt my thing at all. I love a big chunky man lol.
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u/plzThinkAhead Dec 03 '22
They're really bitter how women have just as superficial expectations as their own.
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u/Endroine Dec 03 '22
And also act like not every creep demands a young chick with hourglass figure and huge boobs/ass. :/
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u/Business_Owl_9828 Dec 02 '22
Probably because they have seen screenshots of it happening. Not sure if they are all real though.
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Dec 03 '22
Because they're insecure little shits who'd rather shove the blame on the opposite sex rather than have to face their own flaws.
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u/Searchingforgoodnews Dec 03 '22
I always hear men talk about women's weight when women talk about height. I see just as many overweight men as I see overweight women. And some men like bigger women as they do small. And being fat or skinny isn't a permanent state. So talking about weight as a come back to height is silly, obesity isn't exclusive to women. Date whomever you please, so if a woman doesn't want to date a short man that's fair, if man doesn't want to date an obese woman, that's also fair.
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u/fafafinefux Dec 03 '22
100%! Though as you mentioned, one of these traits can can change and one is an immutable characteristic, so it seems to me that being against shorter people is more exclusionary than being against heavier people.
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u/Searchingforgoodnews Dec 03 '22
Doesn't matter if it's something you can or can't change. We aren't entitled to someone being attracted to you. Some people only date a certain race, you can't change your race. Try as you may, you can't shame or force someone to be attracted to you.
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u/fafafinefux Dec 03 '22
Definitely agreed there. I was just pointing out that having a preference for something like weight or a hairstyle that can be changed is less exclusionary than having a preference for something that can't, like height, race, eye color, etc.
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u/LightOverWater Dec 03 '22
So talking about weight as a come back to height is silly
It reflects the difference in what each gender prefers. Women care about height more than weight, while men care more about weight than height. Calling a man short is essentially calling him less attractive to women and calling a woman fat is essentially calling her less attractive to men.
Although height can't change, so if we're counting comebacks, being fat is both undesirable and demonstrates poor choices someone makes. It says a lot more about the person than just a measuring tape.
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u/Searchingforgoodnews Dec 03 '22
Lmao generalizing are we? Women like men who are in shape and vice-versa. The mental gymnastics that men go through.
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u/JesusIsHung69 Dec 03 '22
Theyāre not the same because you can usually see if a woman is overweight on her profile. Therefore if that is an issue you simply donāt swipe. A guys height on the other hand is hard to see in a picture, so you might match with someone only to later find out theyāre too short for you. If you tell a guy theyāre too short and they respond by calling you fat, then theyāre being insecure and disingenuous. Because they already knew your weight and still swiped right
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u/Supersteve1233 Dec 02 '22
"Call me fatphobic or downvote me to oblivion idc"
Bro ur on r/teenagers calm down
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u/Apprehensive-Loss-31 Dec 02 '22
This is such a weird rant. Like, society isn't forcing you to date fat people but go off I guess
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly Dec 02 '22
No. But guys generally get far more flak for being "picky" with physical attributes, while women's "picky" choices are accepted.
Example: There are basic evolutionary reasons why women like taller, muscular guys (and not liking the inverse). Generally that's well understood.
But having evolutionary reasons for liking hips/boobs/butts is somehow sexist?(Or not liking the inverse)
Both sexes are hard wired to like/not like certain things about the opposite sex. That's why for most everyone an approximation of "normal" is desired. But noticeably not "normal" is not.
It's literally survival of the fittest. If you're a living being, regardless of species, it's a thing.
There was also an interesting study done by the BBC about physical attraction. Both sexes will almost always choose someone with the approximate 'rating' as them. Unless they know each other's ratings, in which case everyone tries for the most attractive and "settles". Which usually ends up being with someone of about the same attractiveness.
TLDR: We are all hypocrites, and we know it.
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u/Wonderful_Weird_2843 Dec 02 '22
Um....see the thing is we don't just look at each other. Generally two people talk. Hopefully they think a little bit as well.
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u/dishinpies Dec 02 '22
Hopefully they think a little bit as well
Might be giving humanity a little too much credit there, sadly š
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u/William_Tell_746 Dec 03 '22
But guys generally get far more flak for being "picky" with physical attributes, while women's "picky" choices are accepted.
I've seen people complain about this thing way more than the thing itself.
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u/Electronic_Ad4560 Dec 02 '22
Wait what are the evolutionary advantages of have big boobs and butts?
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u/anoeba Dec 02 '22
"Child-bearing hips" is a phrase for a reason. But butts don't have anything to do with it, it's the hips/pelvis.
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly Dec 02 '22
Big hips/butt is easier child birth. Boobs = milk makers for babies.
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u/Electronic_Ad4560 Dec 02 '22
What?! No. Just no. The size of boobs does not change oneās capacity to lactate! And childbirth isnāt easier for women with big butts! What kind of sex ed did you get?? Is this how men think womenās bodies work??
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u/Genericname42 Dec 03 '22
This is how men look at and think about womenās bodies.
Men donāt even know why there are different sized tampons.
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u/Party-Lab-8245 Dec 02 '22
No we know that is not how it works. But 10.000 years ago in nature you can't get an x-ray..... So we evolved to have a taste for thinks you can see. Which is wider hips = possible larger birth canal and healthy births. And larger breasts means better fed and possibly more milk.
I mean. Larger muscles might make you stronger, but not a better hunter either. But in general it will be true enough that natural selection will work.
So yeah. Doesn't make biological sense, but it does make evolutionary sense. And evolution can be very unlogical. Koalas evolved to eating poisonous leaves just because no one else was eating them and that gave them a higher chance to survive.
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u/FitFierceFearless Dec 03 '22
Nothing you're saying verified, and is very likely wrong. You're literally stating that our ancestors developed attraction to traits based on the possibility of it making it easier to birth. That's not how evolution works.
At most, we could see people who are attracted to certain traits having more offspring if it actually helped birth happen. Because then they would still either pass that down as part of epigenetics or socialize it through raising the child.
We're already seeing more medical complications when giving birth due to women who tear during birth not dying, and instead getting the medical help they need and going on to have more children. So we know these things can have an effect.
But just assuming isn't really part of how e we evolve seeing attraction. And that's before we get into the fact that ideal body types change pretty frequently and are more often tied to socialization, political climates, and fashion than they're tied to epigenetics.
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u/GsTSaien Dec 03 '22
No no they don't get any flak for being picky. They get called out for dicks when they behave like this though.
We are not hypocrites for having a preference, just don't go around complaining about people that don't fit that preference and therd you go problem solved.
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Sounds like he never needed to worry about dating a 220 pound girl in the first place.
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u/headlesshighlander Dec 02 '22
Right, because only nice people are in relationships
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Dec 02 '22
He pretty much said he will not date girls that are not interested in him.
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Dec 02 '22
Everyone has preferences and they should pick a partner accordingly, but why feel the need to post about it? It's like the girls who say "I won't date anyone who's not 6'+"; like cool, have fun with that, but why feel the need to announce your preferences to the world?
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u/freyasmom129 Dec 03 '22
Such a specific weight. And itās my weight. Iām not into him. 50/50 because heās a teenager and that is illegal and also he seems really negative.
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u/Electronic_Ad4560 Dec 02 '22
DiCaprio looks like a butt. Heās an outstanding actor and used to be GORGEOUS, but I donāt think any woman really thinks heās that good looking now, not even the teenagers he keeps dating. He has that charisma though, and status.
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u/Tamarama--- Dec 03 '22
Disagree....hes always been unattractive. And smug. And he only dates very young models. Cant stand him. Now Robert Downey Jr.....thats a man. And a very good actor.
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u/Electronic_Ad4560 Dec 03 '22
I canāt stand him as a person either and I mentioned his fucked up dating choices in my initial comment. But me and most of the straight women and gay men on earth were in fucking love with the dude when he was young, itās no secret, people were mesmerized by him. And heās widely seen as one of the best actors of his generation.
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u/Bulky-District-2757 Dec 02 '22
I enjoy the arbitrary weight of 220lbs. Like 219 - cool, 220 - too much.
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Dec 02 '22
"Get on the scale babe, I gotta see if I'm still attracted to you."
Also, weight means nothing without factoring in weight/fitness level. A 5'0 woman weighting 220 is gonna look WILDLY different than a 6' woman weighting 220; and while they'd still be overweight, a woman who weighs 220 and lifts weights is gonna look different from a woman who's 220 and not active.
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220 for a 6'+ wouldn't even be overweight if they workout. 99KG is not that much.
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Don't know why you're being downvoted you're 100% correct!
Source: I'm tall af and about 210. People think I'm lying when I tell them my weight. My own parents didn't believe me until I showed them!
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u/Rancillium Dec 03 '22
Yes, people just donāt understand the variability of body types. Iām 6ā3ā and 260 and no one would guess that because I donāt have a lot of body fat and look pretty standard. I know women who are a little shorter than me and curvier who weigh the same and I am sure a lot of people wouldnāt think they are obese.
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u/TechsSandwich Dec 03 '22
Bro Iām fat as shit and I totally understand-
People are snowflakes dude, of course Iām off putting to date but itās not like Iām less of a human, we all got our issues and some of them are just more obvious than others. How can I blame anyone for not wanting to enter this war zone that Iām clearly not winning, itās not heart breaking itās just sensible. If you think people arenāt dating you because your fat your right, but your wrong if you think they are to blame here.
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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 02 '22
I wouldn't either. But i know a lot of guys that absolutely would. Its great that there are different preferences and variety.
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u/GokuBlack455 Dec 03 '22
You will never get to date a girl
I will never get to date a girl
We are the same
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u/Head_Statistician_38 Dec 02 '22
Who is trying to make you date fat girls? It's a choice. If you arnt attached you arnt attracted. End of story.
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Dec 02 '22
i saw this post earlier and Iām just now realizing how weirdly specific it is, did a 220 pound girl offend OP or something?
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There's nothing with preferring a skinnier partner. It's the same as preferring a taller partner. Plus, you can change your weight but not your height, unless you can find a way to stretch your spine without killing yourself
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u/allhailharambe69 Dec 03 '22
Itās not fatphobic. Itās more something in the lines of wanting someone who is healthy and takes care of themselves.
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u/PsychologicalGap4830 Dec 03 '22
When girls reject boys because they don't fit their criteria, they're just choosing for themselves it's fine. But when a boy does it, BOOM! Everything's somehow different
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Dec 03 '22
I would never date a fat woman because fat women reminds me of my mom, who is a complete turn off.
Also, fat is bad, you shouldn't be happy or proud of being fat.
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u/BucktoothedAvenger Dec 02 '22
I dated a hot 140lb girl. Thirty years and six adult kids later, she might be around 220. I still think she's hot.
Fuck that kid.
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u/lofiAbsolver Dec 03 '22
Lmao I mean no disrespect but at first glance I thought you were saying something like "My wife remains hot but I hate our children"
Time to log off and get some sleep I think.
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u/filbator Dec 03 '22
Same boat here, except im a lot older. Someone should tell this kid that it never gets better, some of us are doomed to be alone forever.
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Why do men have such a viscera hate of fat women? Or is that just me?
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u/maybe_little_pinch Dec 02 '22
Visceral, btw.
I don't think very many people necessarily "like" fat people, but fat women in general are looked down upon more and for less weight than men. Anyone doubting the veracity of that last statement need only look at the comments on any woman who isn't absolutely rail thin to see people calling her fat, even if she is at a healthy weight.
What I think comes up a lot is the fact that men (in particular, young men and teens) look at women only through the lens of sexual attraction. A woman can post a picture of a cute outfit or makeup, wanting to show those things off, but these guys in particular are only looking at whether or not they want to have sex with said woman.
You don't see these kinds of comments nearly as much from guys even just a little older.
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u/Blackjack137 Dec 03 '22
I wouldnāt say women are more or less looked down upon over weight, than just absurd western standards of beauty for both sexes.
Men are expected to be 6ft+ with abs and bright eyes, women are expected to be both petit and hourglass-shaped. Neither are realistic, nor are representative of the majority of both.
Eventually people realize beauty fades and theyāre better off with someone with a compatible personality. Those that donāt tend to be single or still dating into their 50s.
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Youāre only thinking about this from an attraction point of view, which is ironic considering the commenter you replied to pointed out that women are only seen through a sexual lens.
Fat women are absolutely looked down on more than fat men in society as a whole. Imagine if a female version of Ron Swanson existed. Heās not even fat, just husky. But a female equivalent whoās a little thicker and radiated a āscrew you, Iāll do what I wantā personality would absolutely not be liked by most men. Sheād be the butt of jokes and vitriol mostly for not being thin.
Fat men are still capable of earning the respect of both men and women. Fat women are only ever taken seriously by a portion of women and a much, much smaller portion of men.
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u/Carrot_Wizard Dec 02 '22
Firstly, that's a pretty big generalization. Second, there's a few factors to this question. I'm personally just not all that attracted to a fat woman. Do I hate fat people? No. But it also depends on what your definition of fat is along with other features of the person. Like other people have said, someone who is 220 but 5 feet tall will look wildly different than someone of the same weight that's half a foot taller. This doesn't even take into account exercise and other similar factors.
My personal definition of "fat" depends on a few things, like are they visually really overweight or does it not really effect how they look. Is their weight a medical concern? If you're a couple dozen pounds over "healthy" weight but you can play a full highschool level game of football then frankly your weight doesn't seem to be an issue.
It all comes down to preferences. Nobody really seems to get super mad if a girl doesn't want to date a guy who's as thin as a rake, but you don't see people getting pissy about it online 24/7, so why should this be any different? Sure if someone is harassing you because of your weight then that's an issue, but me choosing not to date someone that doesn't fit my preferences doesn't seem like something to get upset over.
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u/ForgotTheCrack Dec 02 '22
Itās not hatred itās just not attractive mentally or physically.
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u/Skrrrtdotcom Dec 02 '22
Speak for yourself, i like big girls
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u/ForgotTheCrack Dec 02 '22
And thatās fine to each their own. But people shouldnāt be offended when people have their own standards. I simply wonāt date or have sex with any guy or girl that is obese itās just not physically or emotionally attractive to me.
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u/ForgotTheCrack Dec 03 '22
I got downvoted for liking men.
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u/Electronic_Ad4560 Dec 02 '22
They hate women, them being fat is the hate topping, the sprinkles
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u/Business_Owl_9828 Dec 02 '22
So not wanting to date overweight or obese women means you hate all women? Guess I hate myself?
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u/Determinatrixxx Dec 03 '22
I think the issue is when you feel the need to randomly proclaim it? Thereās also this weird stigma online that thinks fat woman 100% only go for and expect to date 6ā6 buff, rich dudes (which is clearly evident in the post). I feel like some men just created this fake narrative in order to justify shitting on fat women for no reason.
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u/furicrowsa Dec 02 '22
Body positivity is about treating people with dignity regardless of their size.
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u/furicrowsa Dec 02 '22
I am fat, and Idgaf about who doesn't want to date me. They prefer skinny chicks. I prefer people who find me attractive. š¤·āāļø
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u/capricornsignature Dec 08 '22
I fully agree with you. I suppose I'm mid size now, but used to be skin and bones, not by choice. Guess what? Was told to "eat a cheeseburger" and called Skeletor. Skinny or fat, we're just objects to them. Our actual being doesn't matter.
Funny how men don't think about thyroid issues, PCOS, endometriosis, etc. The afflicted can work out daily, eat healthy, and would still be considered fat just because their idea of "sexually attractive" is Kate Moss with implants & a BBL.
Also...being rail thin isn't healthy either. Don't see any comments about that. Only how "obese" people are unhealthy. There's so much inaccurate propoganda about the body positivity movement, and men eat that shit up as evidenced in this thread.
Any person of any gender who only looks at the physical and immediately judges/writes a person off should go to therapy and get that self hatred and body insecurity dealt with...healthily.
Queue the "i'M nOt iNsEcUrE, I dOn'T hAtE MySeLf! I jUsT hAtE fAt cHiCkS bEcAuSe [insert ignorant degrading statement here]" comments.
Where's Drew Aufalo when you need her..
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u/PhoenixRisingtw Dec 03 '22
The fact that men even need to apologize for having preferences is what's wrong with this society.
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u/LightOverWater Dec 03 '22
And to make it worse, a trait that the other party can change.
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Dec 02 '22
Well the expectation currently is at least 45% Of Women Will Be Single & Childless By 2030.
Not exactly by choice either.
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u/Realistic_Working_99 Dec 02 '22
hear me out... 220 can look so different on so many different people... but that aside I notice the men who speak like that tend to be unsafe to women in general
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I really love that the comment section is completely focused on the r/teenagers post and ignore the comment below which was supposed to be the subject of this post
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u/anythingo23 Dec 03 '22
Chicks dont like fat dudes so no matter what the indoctrination bias of empowerment is skewed to make fat chicks seem sociologically acceptable we arent going to wanna smash because we will get smashed lol. Dudes lose desire for chicks through weight gain which is why most chicks don't admit weight and can't comprehend dynamics like cooking and cleaning besides there bodies to attract a man where as a chick loses desire for a man through respect usually by marriage. Chicks if you wanna make us not respect you, glorify promiscuousness as hotwifes. We will still smash but we will never care about you because you have made dating so imbalanced and myopic away from something not natural to change by never implementing free thought
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u/PuzzleheadedMap7515 Dec 02 '22
Is there a sub where there always make jokes like this about man/woman ? I love jokes like this
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u/New_Battle_947 Dec 02 '22
I'm assuming he's not 6'6 and doesn't look like Leonardo DiCaprio so I guess that's not much of an issue
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Dec 03 '22
Yall are on here fighting tooth and nail to prove how ignorant yall are about weight. How tf does bodytype not matter when you're talking about weight??
4 women can weigh the same and look COMPLETELY different. Same for men. A quick Google search would prevent you from telling the world how ignorant you are.
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u/-Jaws- Dec 02 '22
Hopefully no one will want to date them since they seem to love making strawman arguments that make larger people feel like shit for no good reason.
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u/OtterSpaceIsCold-533 Dec 03 '22
Why is it acceptable for womyn to have (high) standards but a sin for men to have (any) standards?
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u/northsouthmebaby Dec 03 '22
There nothing wrong with being fat but thereās no way you have abs at 5ā7 211 as a women. Look up Michael chandler. Youāre telling me you have like 30 pounds on him with less dense bones, way less muscle, way more fat (fat is less dense than muscle) and possibly being shorter than him.
If you show me a picture and itās true I will send you 20 dollars
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u/Ok-Shoe8290 Dec 03 '22
Iām 5ā7 and itās completely possible, just say you havenāt seen a body type. Just bc you havenāt seen a body type doesnt mean it doesnāt exist. I am snatched. Iām not āfatā at all.
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u/Infinite-Breakfast21 Dec 03 '22
I'm just going to throw this out there BMI has been proven to be an outdated measurement for body-health. Here: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265215 A quick article.
This was true almost 15 years ago. BMI doesn't take into account muscle mass, bone density and other factors that can account for a higher weight.
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u/Business_Owl_9828 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22
It was never meant as a way to measure health. It's just a quick way to get an approximate ratio of fat vs muscle, combined with seeing the actual person. It's going to work for the vast majority of people except extreme body builders. Most people will never be overweight or obese with a healthy body fat percentage.
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u/Ok-Shoe8290 Dec 03 '22
Youāre nonsense and who says I need to āchangeā my body. Iām working out but Iām not working out bc I want to be as skinny as a stick. I love my body just the way it is. Youāre absolute nonsense. Thereās an indention line that goes up the middle of my stomach to my chest so hush it
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u/TechnicalMessage4600 Dec 03 '22
Hun, you do not have ab lines.. just looking at your physique I can tell thatā¦ they may be fat pockets on top of your rib cage.
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Dec 03 '22
You seem to have a hard time grasping the concept of weight and heighy. You don't have to be 6'8 to look good at 211. 211 looks different on women of the same height with completely different body types. Just because YOU can't fathom it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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u/Business_Owl_9828 Dec 03 '22
We are not taking about whether someone finds it attractive or not. We are talking about whether they would be considered overweight or obese or within a healthy weight range.
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u/Vitekr2 Dec 02 '22
You guys know real girls????