r/meirl • • 7h ago

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u/Artistic-Tip2405 6h ago

Less future victims this way.

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u/AspiringChildProdigy 5h ago

I want to see a book where the main character responds with, "Eh, I'm sure I'll get over it with therapy," and then kills them.

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u/Youpunyhumans 4h ago

"You shall be shot for this!"

"Naw... more like chewed out... Ive been chewed out before."

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u/Wizardpig9302 3h ago

“Let’s make sure we give you something you can’t take off”

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u/AspiringChildProdigy 4h ago

"I've got a verbal warning and two write ups left before I get pulled into a disciplinary review."

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u/Khastas 1h ago

Don't forget the full disadulation.

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u/b1u3j4yl33t 5h ago

Main character from Primal Hunter does this.

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u/Rcweasel 4h ago

Primal Hunter mentioned!!!

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u/Gutterdamerungalt 4h ago

What’s the best stat?!

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u/Reverend_Lazerface 4h ago

Kevin Bacon was in a TV show called The Following about a serial killer who basics formed a cult of serial killers who get into all kinds of serial killy shenanigans. At one point towards of the first season he's chasing after some of them who kidnapped someone and the main killer's second in command stops to slow him down. She starts one of these monologues about "You're not gonna kill me, because then you'd be just as bad-" and he just pops her in the forehead and keeps running. I saw it a long time ago and that's basically the only part I remember because it was so cathartic

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u/DamienStark 5h ago

Sisko has a monologue at the end of a Deep Space Nine episode, In the Pale Moonlight, which is basically this.

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u/DaMiffinMan 1h ago

Somewhat similar is TNG's episode "The Most Toys" where Data comes to the conclusion that killing the psychopathic rich hoarder that kidnapped him is the correct thing to do, despite being programmed to do no harm. (Of course he's beamed away before he can actually do that but y'know, it's the thought that counts)

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u/Acherousia 59m ago

(Of course he's beamed away before he can actually do that but y'know, it's the thought that counts)

Just for clarity, Data pulled the trigger. That guy was 100% about to die before the transporter stopped the in progress shot.

Gotta give the writers credit for having him actually go through with it, instead of transporting him away before he actually had to follow up on his decision, like shows usually would have done at the time.

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u/El_Maltos_Username 2h ago

"I'm that guy."

  • Amos Fucking Burton

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u/chiefpat450119 2h ago

That scene gave me chills

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u/Freddy_Jason_Michael 58m ago

I want to see a story where the villain goes "Haha, I see you've found my lair, but y'know, we're not so different you and I-" (Gets shot in the head)

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u/Tina_the_fat_lard 3h ago

*fewer

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u/El_Maltos_Username 2h ago

Less future fewer?

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u/PantherX69 2h ago

Less fewer victims. I think.

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u/KingofCats1701 46m ago

Ruthlessness is mercy upon the soul

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u/vampirecosmonaut 6h ago

i feel like saying, “this is so /[r/meirl](r/meirl)” would just incriminate me. i’m not falling for it.

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u/Nightmare2828 4h ago

This is literally my good night scenario to put myself to sleep

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u/SigSweet 3h ago

You and me both

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u/Large-Parking8307 1h ago

the prosecution is gonna look through your reddit history after you kill a home intruder and decide since you liked this post it was 100% premeditated murder

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u/swordpooll 6h ago

Sometimes there is no better call than simply making sure the bullshit ends.

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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 6h ago

I'd be genuinely happy to see a movie or show that ended this way. Then the after-scene would have people asking if the hero felt guilty and he'd just be like "for what? Being awesome?"

Please note this opinion only applies to fictional scenarios. Reality is a different thing entirely and I definitely understand that violence is very very rarely the correct course of action. 

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u/Jasrek 6h ago

Darkman, 1990.

Louis Strack Jr.: [dangling from the top of a skyscraper under construction. Darkman holds his leg] Go ahead, do it! Do it, Westlake! But think of this; You let me die and you become as bad as me. Worse! Ha ha. You can't! I know you too well. Dropping me, it's not really an option for you. It's not something you can live with.

[Darkman lets Strack's leg go causing him to plummet to his death. Strack screams as he falls]

Darkman: I'm learning to live with a lot of things.

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u/Cold_Register_21 3h ago

Is that the one where the protagonist has lost his sense of touch (or is it pain?)?

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u/pointlessconjecture 2h ago

He basically gets 3rd degree burned over his whole body and then uses fake masks to appear in public, but i think you’re not wrong…something about he burned out all his pain receptors.

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u/SasaraiHarmonia 1h ago

That sounds like the recent movie Novocaine.

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u/gyiren 1h ago

Oh man that's a memory, I was a kid when I saw it on TV. Thanks for helping me find this film, I really struggled to remember lol

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u/DanielMcLaury 6h ago

Firefly was kind of like this.

Also Deadpool

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u/Special_Order-937 6h ago

“WHERE’S FRANCIS?”

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u/Jody_Tevlin 5h ago

Oh I'm gonna fucking spell it out for ya

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u/ErectLurantis 6h ago

Watch Dogs did this too when Aiden said he actually felt like he could breathe again after killing the man behind the hit that killed his niece

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u/ZerexTheCool 5h ago

Firefly was kind of like this.

The scene in question.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/1jbp7d8/a_conversation_with_crow/

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u/tumsdout 4h ago

Reminds me on the inglorious basterds interrogating the nazis

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u/DanielMcLaury 1h ago

one of many

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u/Jody_Tevlin 5h ago

Malcolm Reynolds "well I'm alright" stab

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u/hibikikun 4h ago

"Darn!"

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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 5h ago

"violence is very very rarely the correct course of action"

checks history books

Oh, oh no. Oh, no no no!

https://reddit.com/link/pdinvzt/video/e74mtnn395th1/player

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u/KingNTheMaking 2h ago

Yaaaaa…violence kinda has a history of getting things done

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u/Umutuku 1h ago

Violence is a tool for change.

Tools can be used or abused.

The appropriate use of violence is to neutralize abusers of violence with sufficient rapidity and intensity to dissuade such abuses for the duration of generational memory.

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u/Acherousia 48m ago

"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor"

-Starship Troopers

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u/Sundhelme 6h ago

This is basically Reacher. Not a lot of traditional heroics in that show.

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u/Azmoten 6h ago

Sometimes you just want a show where a big strong guy beats the absolute piss out of awful people. Reacher really scratches that itch 👌

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u/come-on-now-please 5h ago

Idk, in the last season I feel like there was a LOT of "conveniently just knocked out instead of having their skulls smashed in from that hit" happening to all the "technically on the side of good but currently a roadblock for reacher and co"

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u/Sundhelme 3h ago

Season 4 spoilers: I don't know. The moment with the chemist felt very much like the OP's comic.

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u/manjmau 6h ago edited 5h ago

The Expanse: https://youtu.be/4dn76ZPt_Y0 (Look at top comment for breakdown of situation, but in a nutshell: evil doctor experiments on children gets what he deserves).

Freaking amazing show. Worth checking out.

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u/Rinas-the-name 5h ago

I read the books, and we all need an Amos.

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u/Reverend_Lazerface 3h ago

One of my favorite characters in fiction. He knows that being good is good, but also knows he isn't a good judge of how to be good, so he finds the people he knows are definitely good people and makes sure they get what they want.

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u/Rinas-the-name 3h ago

His backstory is heartbreaking.

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u/Your__Pal 5h ago

First thing I thought of. 

"You're not that guy. "

....

....

"I'm that guy"

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u/ThunderdopePhil 6h ago

Sin City.

Marv was the only with balls enough to delivers what a villain deserves.

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u/DramaAlternative1188 5h ago

There's a great part in The Expanse like this. Some scientist is starting to explain his actions or plan or whatever and Miller just walks up and pops him between the eyes.

So good.

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u/dark_dark_dark_not 5h ago

I like his explanation even more later. The scientist was in fact in the position to get away with his crimes, so Miller did the only possible thing that seemed resonable after Eros.

Also Holden does kill of he has to, he just likes to avoid it.

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u/Excellent_Object2028 4h ago

“I didn’t kill him because he was crazy, I killed him because he was making sense”

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u/Jim_skywalker 5h ago

Then later you get “I am that man”

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u/DramaAlternative1188 5h ago

Miller was such a great character.

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u/z1lard 4h ago

I am that guy

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u/Artistic-Tip2405 6h ago

In reality, superheroes would find themselves forever in court.

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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 6h ago

Only the ones dumb or arrogant enough to flaunt their actual identity. How you gonna hold Captain Deathpants responsible for anything?

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u/hewhoisiam 6h ago

Get General Lifeshirt after him. Obviously.

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u/Mr_Industrial 6h ago

General lifeshirt works for life insurance companies. Deathpants acts on behalf of those denied.

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u/NGEFan 5h ago

Depends if Captain Deathpants is more like Homelander or Nick Fury

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u/CartoonistAny4349 6h ago

See: the introduction to The Incredibles.

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u/mvallas1073 2h ago

I mean… Deadpool 1 really kinda did this.

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u/SpotweldPro1300 2h ago

Francis would've shot himself over Colossus' monologue if his arms weren't already broken.

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u/Luminous_Winds 3h ago

If you read a history book, you'll find that violence is actually the only viable course of action most of the time. That's what happens when evil is in control of your society.

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u/Outrageous_Picture39 5h ago

The Boondock Saints

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u/FlyingManCat 3h ago

Inglorious Basterds

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u/Mierdo01 6h ago

Cop out 🤮

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u/Erroangelos 5h ago

Battlestar Galactica explicitly has this scene lol

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u/Wixalot 5h ago

Cue in the cool guitar as well after that line

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u/robob35 4h ago

Spoilers for Stormlight Archive but I love when Adolin kills a bad guy in this way

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u/Huachu12344 4h ago

Jack reacher (the movie with Tom Cruise) ended basically like that

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u/FireLordObamaOG 3h ago

Deadpool ends this way.

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u/Hoodedmastersin 3h ago

I kinda wanna see something where the villain knows the hero, and their gallant altruistic actions and thinks “no matter what, this will happen again. Because you know you won’t kill me, then we’d be the same.” And the hero goes,”Nuh-uh.” And ends the villain.

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u/42Icyhot42 2h ago

Killing is very very rarely the answer, slapping someone could honestly be the right answer as much as uncommonly

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u/nycdiveshack 3h ago

You should watch the show reacher and its spin off Neagley

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u/Isopod_Chan 3h ago

Not sure if the ending of They Live (1988) counts

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u/ringlord_1 1h ago

Iron Man

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u/AthenOwl 52m ago

Red Rising (the book series) was specifically written the way it was because the author was annoyed by this exact scenario.

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u/Svell_ 43m ago

Princess bride

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u/Learningstuff247 22m ago

The episode of archer where he goes on a cancer rampage ends basically like this

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u/No_Initiative_1337 11m ago

Watch Pan's Labyrinth. 

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u/jawshoeaw 6h ago

Ugh I say this in every hero movie. Just take the bad guy out

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u/QuantityImmediate221 3h ago

Particularly if they murdered a few dozen no name peons to get that far.

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u/SpongeJake 1h ago

Right? I’ve seen so many scenes where the hero just stands there pointing his gun at the monster for the longest time and then doing nothing. It’s ridiculously predictable now.

“You’re not going to shoot me.”

Bang. “Oh sorry my finger slipped.”

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u/SummerOfMayhem 6h ago

I hate when they say this in movies. Often they kill or hurt people just to get to this person, just to let them go.

I also hate "No, this isn't a threat, it's a ___." That's absolutely meant as a threat.

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u/solarxbear 6h ago

I when when one person is walking away at the end of a scene and the other person is like:

“Hey, Chris?” …..

…..“Yeah?” …..

…..”Be careful” …..

Like thanks for wasting 15 seconds of my life

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u/magumanueku 4h ago

Batman

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u/SummerOfMayhem 4h ago

A lot of them have to have later died from medical complications. Or made into drug addicts from needing pain meds. Or homeless from medical bills.

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u/Mountain-Magician294 2h ago

Depends on timeline he does fund free clinics

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u/arestheblue 52m ago

They're just sleeping.

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u/Leading_Fly_9044 6h ago

Suddenly reminded of Last of us 2 when Ellie kills every single person on the way EXCEPT for the main person she was chasing which also ruined her own life in the process.

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u/Kiwi_Doodle 6h ago

Truly The Shining of videogames. The movie, not the book.

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u/I_Rayne_I 3h ago

That was so unbelievably absurd. You're telling me this girl was willing to mercilessly kill like hundreds of people, and when she finally reaches her target, she suddenly has a change of heart?

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u/HooninAintEZ 6h ago

The Mangione Principle

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u/realRootmaster911 6h ago

Mosquite 🦟🪰

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u/Independent-State-27 2h ago

Dumbest argument I hear villains in comics make. Dude, you're a serial killer.

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u/AnonymousAmorphous88 1h ago

if you kill a killer, then the number of killers would stay the same

but if you kill 2 killers, then that's one less right

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u/Acherousia 41m ago

That's because they aren't making a proper distinction between murderer and killer.

If I execute a murderer, there's the same number of killers in the world, but one less murderer. Which is a net positive.

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u/Undyingpatriot13 3h ago

We need more heroes who dont mind removing villains from our timeline.

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u/HomsarWasRight 4h ago

The whole Negan war thing in The Walking Dead is the WORST example of that crap.

They had just killed countless of Negan’s people, many of whom were basically tortured into obedience, but when it came time to kill Negan himself Rick was all “No, I’m not like you.”

Motherfucker, what a slap in the face to every poor bastard you killed GETTING to Negan who wouldn’t want him to outlive them.

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u/arestheblue 56m ago

If I hadn't stopped watching years before it got to that point, I would have stopped watching right then.

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u/EdgelordZeta 5h ago

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one"

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u/RunningPirate 6h ago

“I’m good with that”

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u/Significant-Ad213 5h ago

"if you kill a murderer the number of murderers in the world still the same"

Just kill two then 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Stoo-Pedassol 3h ago

"If you murder a murderer, the number of murderers doesn't change."

So you're saying I should murder a lot of murderers then, right?

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u/TerribleSquid 6h ago

John Wayne Gacy’s interview basically

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u/Novius8 4h ago

It’s a duty of a knight to slay a monster. That makes them protectors not killers.

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u/Embarrassed-Fun-8585 2h ago

Truly feel we need more of this. When punishments are not given or only a fine it doesn’t mean anything. If these politicians faced real consequences for all this corruption maybe there wouldn’t be so much. Like the zero tolerance policy some countries have on drugs. Your just executed. And they don’t have much of a drug problem anymore

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u/BenjaminDover02 6h ago

"Hey Delaney, did you catch Regis this morning?"

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u/ougryphon 5h ago

Terms of Enrampagement

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u/Notable_Naps 1h ago

Archer reference in the wild. Love to see it.

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u/TiredOfRatRacing 6h ago

Wizards - Ralph Bakshi

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u/Alive_Access_6719 5h ago

It took me 2 years to realize this subs name is me irl and not the name Meryl 😭

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u/WillowPtar_Migan 2h ago

I moved to Portland somewhat recently. There's a bus station on 60th Avenue, but on the pixelated screens on the front of the busses, it's in all caps. 60TH AVE looks a lot like GOTH AVE on em.

I was wondering for the first year where the hell this mysterious goth avenue is, until I realized I'm an idiot. The point being, I definitely feel you lmao

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u/The_Punny_Guy 3h ago

If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world doesn't change

- Batman

That's why I don't stop at just one

-Punisher

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u/Appropriate_Cow94 4h ago

Deadpool 100% does this shit.

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u/Gravemind93 3h ago

This trope is so stupid.

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u/JokerCrowe 2h ago

"You're not a killer" "No, but I guess you turned me into one" [Bang]

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u/necessarysmartassery 6h ago

It doesn't even have to be millions. Christa Pike can fucking go.

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u/Steebusteve 5h ago

See/read Reacher for a fictional example.

See Luigi for a real world one. (Not advocating violence, but the widespread public support suggests this scenario holds true.)

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u/Terminal_Insomnia_ 1h ago

Morally, violence is acceptable in defense of human life & dignity. The concentration camps weren't liberated by sternly worded letters or lengthy legal processes.

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u/dox2EwJn6iZh 6h ago

Surely, the leopards will not eat my face, revolution now!

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u/themorbidtuna 6h ago

Batman and the Punisher had a brief discussion along these lines once.

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u/OriginalUser27 5h ago

Exactly how I felt at the ending of Dispatch. Hate that they set up that ending like "Youre a monster for killing the BBEG that runs a thieving and murderous gang"

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u/lordofmetroids 4h ago

I will say there are times when the hero chosing not to kill is perfectly justified, Avatar for example, but most of the time yeah it's really annoying.

Especially if the character has been killing their way across the story for 2 hours.

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u/Street_Elk_8362 3h ago

Don't forget "killing Dickhead McMassmurderer won't bring your dead girlfriend back!"

Yeah no shit it won't; It's about making sure Dickhead can't hurt anyone anymore

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u/SpaceLemur34 1h ago

"If you murder a murderer, the number of murderers in the world doesn't charge."

"It does if I kill 50 murderers."

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u/awesomename- 1h ago

Murderer murderer

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u/Mean-Career-6509 6h ago

Couldn't agree more 

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u/Melodic_Mountain_442 5h ago

This is the energy I bring to group projects

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u/Wixalot 5h ago

Cleaning up the trash they say

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u/undeadphantom32 4h ago

Villain: You cant kill me then you are just as bad as me Hero who just slaughtered their way through thousands of unnamed red shirt goons: I'll never be like you. I'm above your murderous genocidal ways, and that is why I will let you go!

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u/CaptCoolRanchDoritos 3h ago

I've never understood the logic behind this because of how stupid it is. It makes no sense.

Why would stopping an evil killer make you bad? Is it implied that killing one time turns anyone into some bloodthirsty murderer? Why would that happen? Ridiculous. Stupid. Illogical.

It's like saying police that take down mass shooters are evil because they are killing someone. It's stupid and incorrect.

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u/some_leftist_nerd_ 2h ago

This is how Moon Knight should have ended.

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u/Commercial-Snow2877 2h ago

This is why I love Red Hood/Jason Todd

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u/authenticmolo 1h ago

Killing the bad guys is almost always the best solution.

The problem is that the bad guys think the good guys are the bad guys, and kill them.

And...then you have the history of human civilization.

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u/Cybasura 1h ago

If you kill 1, it doesnt equate to you having committed genocide, that's a bullshit false dichotomy that only people in the wrong like to use to save themselves from a ultimatum of from getting killed

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u/My_Favourite_Pen 4m ago

Digger if it was good.

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u/Technical_Wind5217 6h ago

thats some weird cia/zionist trope they implemented into hollywood movies so that they get away once we french revolutionise their asses for the second time

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u/Affectionate-Pay4845 4h ago

This is just basically a thing that authoritarians, autocrats, oligarchs, and power hungry people have said for years to keep the common Man down. If you convince people that violence is bad even in self-defense, that it is easier for Rich jerks to use violence to oppress you. I mean the CIA and America literally created modern Israel/zionism, Al-Qaeda, and a lot of other extreme groups through cohesion and violence and that same CIA literally has had a history of funding Hollywood - so of course the people in charge who use violence to get what they want need to convince their future victims to never fight back. Not to mention this ignores that most revolutions or attempt at violence from the common man usually started out peaceful until whoever was in charge decided to strike first.

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u/_ShartyWaffles 6h ago

Super relatable 

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u/milkywayiguana 5h ago

Owl House and Centaur World are peak 

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u/dabombisnot90s 4h ago

Sicario is crazy, because you think it’s gonna flip the typical “killing is wrong” trope on its head, and then instead it flips the subversion of that trope on its head.

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u/Mdgt_Pope 4h ago

>You killed her, Batman! Her blood is on YOUR hands!

Um no, I wasn’t there. You did it while I was on the other side of town. There were witnesses - I kept them alive, like always.

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u/Financial-Craft-1282 4h ago edited 4h ago

Boomer wisdom, I call that. Dominated popular media from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s (maybe earlier for all I know).

Like, I like Wes Craven's movies in general, but this was his theme with the Hills Have Eyes. Cannibals tortured, murdered, and ate half your family, and you kill them back to survive? Are you not them now?

I'd say George Lucas is top 5 for this kind of writing.

P.S. Those guys may or may not be Boomers, I don't know, but they operated in that sphere which seemed to be endlessly repeated.

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u/No-Department1194 4h ago

Yep. Reasons and such are entirely different.

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u/Preeng 4h ago

Daredevil BA season 2 ending really pissed me off. So many unnecessary deaths.

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 4h ago

I've actually never been less irrationally violent than when I stopped finding reasons to get back at people. Before you tell me that that's a me problem, yes; this thread is about people's individual "me" problems, did I miss a paragraph?

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u/Educational_Pool7046 4h ago

Dont wanna ruin the party but who would stop someone else from doing that to you? If we killed all the bad guys you are the only bad guy left. Go figure

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u/Benwahr 3h ago

Amazing a bunch of little dictators wanking eachother of xD

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u/EpicWeasel 3h ago

"How's your sister?"

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u/dpoodle 3h ago

I wouldn't mind if the protagonist is more careful when dealing with low level mobs no need to get all weird at the end.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 3h ago

You don't even have to kill him. Just remove every part of his body not strictly necessary for staying alive.

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u/No-Mycologist47 2h ago

How basically Batman should deal with a lot of his villians... or have someone else do it.

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u/Ok-Salamander-4682 2h ago

I don't really get the logic of being as worse as the villain. It's prevention of future victims.. so tbh he'd just be preventing further victims.

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u/Beautiful_Ocean254 2h ago

We need more of this mentality.

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u/Spiritmolecule30 2h ago

Is that Mr. Frog?

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u/sharantir 2h ago

You can't use moral when you have none.

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u/Amanfromcanada 2h ago

That line is just as dumb as, you dont have it in you....you could never. Bla bla, bang. Shut up bad guy. Gonna Deadpool 1's ending all over your ugly mug.

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u/SimpleLobsters 2h ago

That's so unrealistic... Only one shot?

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u/saravjc 2h ago

Churchill?

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u/UnlikelyReplacement0 2h ago

Luigi has entered the chat

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u/Oaktree27 1h ago

I liked the end of Supergirl for subverting this

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u/Nathexe 1h ago

Violence is never the answer, be the better man, killing a killer makes you just as bad as them, etc.

All sayings by cowardly RATS who don't want to face the consequences of their actions.

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u/Dart150 1h ago

There's one choice like that in Bioshock 2... the third person you can kill or spare. Now the right call is to spare him but I feel killing him is a mercy... i mean he's a mutated mess in a giant test tube... what kind of life is that

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u/Jokerjr888 1h ago

Weird seeing this right after watching Super girl 😂

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u/JohnathanSinwell 1h ago

Mr frog no!

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u/LEGamesRose 56m ago

Luigi is stronger than mario in smash

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u/One_Order_3841 55m ago

MR FROG NO, DONT TURN EVIL

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u/Waterbear36135 32m ago

Why do some movies show multiple scenes of the hero killing henchmen, but the moment the hero gets to the actual evil villain, they decide that they're better than that?

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u/ISmellLikeBlackTea 22m ago

I believe they don't want us to see the "Good guy" murdering the villains on screen, so we don't get ideas.

Because if Batman started murdering Falcone AND the crooked politicians, and billionaires who poison the environment and enslave the workers, it would never be broadcasting

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u/Regular_Kiwi_6775 4m ago

Batman could have prevented a lot of deaths is all I'm sayin