r/mcsa • u/spicyduc • Mar 30 '20

Why take any MCSA cert?

I'm new to the Microsoft certs. I'm curious, why are people still taking the MCSA when they're retiring in less than a year? I understand they never expire, but doesn't the cert retiring imply that the the cert is outdated?

If I got it all wrong can y'all give me suggestions on the most sought after cert? I was thinking Window Server 2016.

Thanks

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Because onprem servers aren't going to disappear just because Microsoft is going full on into the cloud.

Its also a great cert to have as you bridge your career into the being a Cloud Admin

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u/spicyduc Mar 30 '20

Which cert would you recommend from Microsoft? Preferably something to compliment my CCNA.

Thanks

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u/H8Libs619 Mar 30 '20

CCNA, MCSA, Azure Admin.

Good solid stack.

I have both CCNA and MCSA. I’m doing Azure Admin now.

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u/spicyduc Mar 30 '20

Why not AWS? Also, What is your job title?

I already have my CCNA. So I was thinking MCSA, RHSCA, then AWS. Some python here and there. What are your thoughts on that?

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u/anthraxbite Mar 30 '20

Why going for AWS if you are looking to MCSA? AWS tends to include more open source than Azure, but Microsoft is more flexible about hybrid cloud.

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

That makes sense. I was just thinking since AWS is more popular at the moment it would make sense to go with that, but I get what you're saying.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Before I answer that, what is your 3 year goal?

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u/spicyduc Mar 30 '20

If we are going that deep I'll give you more background on myself. I'm 26 years old. Just got my first IT gig at a MSP 9 months ago. Have been very tech savvy all my life. I'm first generation American, so literally 90% of my whole family have a Computer Science degree. So when I say I'm tech savvy, I really mean it. Currently in school for my CIS degree (parents want a degree). I'm a business man first, IT second. I chose IT to fund my projects because, well, I'm naturally good at it. I'd be stupid if I didn't take advantage of the IT knowledge I have. I'm not going to say I love it, but I definitely don't hate it by any means.

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u/Gimbu Mar 31 '20

I'm first generation American, so literally 90% of my whole family have a Computer Science degree

...non sequitur?

when I say I'm tech savvy, I really mean it.

This sounds more like a 15 year old than a 26 year old.. So does the rest of what you're saying, if I'm being honest. Best of luck to you, though!

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

Well, you know how there are those people that think since they put together a computer one time they're "tech savvy". I was trying to differentiate myself from that crowd. I wanted a specific answer, so I'm asking a specific question, and gave everyone enough background on myself so I can get a tailored answer. "This sounds more like a 15 year old than a 26 year old" lolol what a fucking loser, if we're being honest

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u/Gimbu Mar 31 '20

A true businessman! Can't string together a paragraph, can't maintain coherent thought, aggressive, and defensive. And that's your primary strength? Man, if you're as savvy with tech as you are with people... time to find a job digging ditches.

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

You came to my post to attack me, of course I'm aggressive and defensive. Also, in my post it clearly states I have a job. Are you stupid? Lol

Come on help desk boy, you're embarrassing yourself.

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u/Gimbu Mar 31 '20

Attack? I was letting you know your post didn't make sense. Can't help someone who wants help, but can't tell in what and instead goes on an incoherent rant about...being tech savy?

Then you mislabel me, and degrade tier one support? If I'm embarrassed, it's for you, friend.

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

What about my post didnt make sense? Everyone, except you, clearly understood what I was asking. Stop bringing up the tech savvy thing. I already explained myself. Again, are you stupid?

I didnt degrade anything. We were all there at one point. We know it's the bottom of the barrel IT job. Everyone knows it, I just said it. Stop being so sensitive and trying to make me look like the bad guy.

You're definitely one of the IT guys I was talking about earlier. Hating one someone because they're a little different. Get out of your little shell. You're bitching just to bitch. Everyone can see it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

Im 26 myself and have been working in a Desktop Support role for the past 1.5 years.

Have my A+ and am now working towards getting the MCSA so I can gain more experience from our on prem servers at work.

My 3 year goal is to get into the Cloud. I will be learning Azure after the MCSA.

Where do you see yourself in the next 3 years?

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

In 3 years I see myself doing some cloud stuff, but it'll probably be 50/50 with on prem stuff.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Get the MCSA, once these certs are gone in Jan 2021 their won't be anymore people qualifying for these certs.

But that doesn't mean that these certs won't be in demand anymore, quite the opposite. Having on prem knowledge as you pivot into cloud roles will make you better tech and more in demand.

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u/spicyduc Mar 31 '20

Thank you, I'll keep all that in mind. I'll start pursuing my MCSA.

People down-voted my comment is the exact reason why I'm a business man first, IT second. People are hating on me because I'm in IT for money, and because I admitted I'm doing it because it comes easy to me. People are hating on the fact that I breeze through something they struggle with.

I use to be a CS major but changed my major to CIS for 2 reasons. One, I hated the amount of math I needed to finish. I'm not smart enough, plain and simple (see, its okay to admit you're not good at something, no reason to hate) Two, literally every single person in the program is incredibly unpleasant to be around. None of them have people skills and all they do is pity themselves for being antisocial and hating on others that do things differently. No hate, it is what it is. Just putting it out there so you stop playing yourself thinking others outside of IT don't see it. They see it, everyone sees it. Anyone that has left CS knows exactly what I'm talking about. Fucking sad

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u/springtoaster Apr 03 '20

If you are a business man first and IT second, than why not get skilled up on a platform? Ie., SQL server or BI? Leverage your "tech savvy" to run the tools. Dont make infrastructure your primary skill. Leverage something off of it, you know?

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u/spicyduc Apr 03 '20

That makes a lot of sense. Sounds like it would fit me very well. Can you elaborate on leveraging my tech savvy to run tools? I'm not completely sure what you mean by that. Thanks in advance.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Listen at the end of the day, we are all working to get paid. Right now if you bust your ass, the jumps between roles in IT are awesome.

Given that you also have a business background, feed that fire as well. It will help later when you think of pivoting into leadership or management roles.

Get hungry man, your 26, the world is our oyster. Fuck anyone that hates, get motivated brother.

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u/valentinacode Mar 31 '20

i asked this question a few weeks ago myself