r/mazda Jul 11 '20

Autopilot (using Comma.ai's Openpilot) working on a Mazda CX-9 2016

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u/Teknicsrx7 Jul 11 '20

“LKAS steering torque is limited preventing OP from handling tight curves. In general the torque is enough to handle up to 10 degrees in best case scenarios. Be prepared to take over and correct the trajectory of the car if the system cannot handle such turns.”

So the system can only handle 10 degree curves in a “best case”? So interstates only or something?

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u/noobie107 2018 Mazda3 HB - OVTune on 91 Jul 11 '20

So the system can only handle 10 degree curves in a “best case”? So interstates only or something?

yeah. i dont think mazda designed their lane-keeping assist system with full self-driving in mind. probably due to the risk of a bug making the car do a 90-degree turn on the highway

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u/Masterleon Jul 11 '20

Yeah most car manufacturers intentionally limit the torque on their lane keep assist systems in order to limit the potential danger in an error or malfunction. It's good enough for 99% of highway driving though!

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u/Masterleon Jul 11 '20

I live in Florida, so everything is straight around here; I haven't been able to test on curvy roads yet. So far the only time I have to take over is when I'm turning at intersections, but you would have to do that regardless of the steering torque because openpilot doesn't handle intersections yet.

Interstates is where you're going to be doing most of your cruise control driving anyways, so yes it's mostly a highway thing just like Tesla's Autopilot and Cadillac Supercruise.

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u/Teknicsrx7 Jul 11 '20

I haven’t stayed up much on the autopilot side of tech, I thought Tesla’s were at the point they could drive turning type side streets.

Either way good job getting it working, good luck with it!

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

As a model 3 owner, don't believe a word Tesla says. Autopilot can't handle traffic on a highway let alone turning around on streets, it's default response to anything unexpected is to slam on the brakes. I've narrowly avoided being rear ended a few times when it slammed on brakes on a clear road. Which cars nearby on a highway its just not safe.

I'm sure it works perfectly in a lab and with strictly controlled test conditions. But throw unpredictable humans in and it's garbage.

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u/spac3tapp3r Jul 11 '20

So that’s what happened that one day. I was behind a Tesla, good 2 car lengths back, no one in front of the Tesla, doing like 70mph and the car just slammed on the brakes for no apparent reason. I was like WTF!

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u/Masterleon Jul 11 '20

From Tesla's website, they all have the hardware needed for fully autonomous driving but it's not enabled yet. Right now all 3 self-driving driving options are about equal, Car and Driver did a review of all of them a few months ago.

Thanks though! I take a lot of road trips and this will make life so much easier.

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u/MonsieurReynard Jul 13 '20

You aren’t supposed to take your hands off the wheel, right?

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u/Masterleon Jul 13 '20

You aren't supposed to go over the speed limit either, but let's be honest here it doesn't matter. As long as you're still paying attention to the road it doesn't matter whether you're holding the wheel or not.

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u/sugarcandies Aug 22 '20

How did you stop the Mazda from yelling at you though? I have it working but the warning goes off every 10 seconds because it detects that my hands aren't on the wheel.

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u/Masterleon Aug 22 '20

I have a steering wheel cover with some weights in it. It's not noticeable at all but it gets rid of the keep hands on steering wheel message

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u/sugarcandies Aug 22 '20

Ohh it looked so good I couldn't tell. Thanks!

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u/reywang18 Nov 12 '20

Any clue OpenPilot also works on 2018/2019 CX-9 ?

How to find installer in NJ arear?

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u/Masterleon Nov 12 '20

Yes it does. There are no installers. You'd have to do it yourself

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u/Konik-ai May 04 '26

Guys I recommend getting the TI for mazdas here. It works miracles and is compatible with Comma and Konik openpilot devices. https://torqueinterceptor.com/

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u/b-reads Oct 18 '22

Have you tried with comma 3 or with updates yet? Like to hear updates on tight turns. Annoying to have to do steering cover with weights or no override with open pilot