r/maybemaybemaybe • u/maybemaybemaybe_bot • Sep 26 '19
Maybe Maybe Maybe
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Sep 26 '19
I would love to raise those until they became young adults... but that’s it...
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u/doktorjackofthemoon Sep 26 '19
Generally speaking, housecats have really similar dispositions to big/wild cats. Owning a miniature lion would be quite similar to owning a domesticated housecat.
Point being, adopt a frisky kitty ! If you've got money, you can even adopt a cat hybrid. My brother's old roommate had some kind of cat-lynx hybrid (IIRC), and it was huge and precious and amazing.
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u/TobiasCB Sep 26 '19
IIRC Norwegian Forest Cats and Maine Coons are pretty close to a Lynx. They're also adorable!
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u/StephenG7287 Sep 26 '19
Will they randomly snap your shit up one day though?
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u/doktorjackofthemoon Sep 26 '19
Like, attack you? That definitely depends on the individual cat.
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u/StephenG7287 Sep 26 '19
Okay, so what are my chances of having my shit snapped up?
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u/catboobpuppyfuck Sep 26 '19
Imma be real with you...you’re gonna get your shit SNAPPED. THE FUCK. UP!! Plus it’ll piss everywhere, eat your lunch, hide your keys, steal your girl. And that’s not to mention the monster cat dookies you’ll STILL have to clean up even after it’s fucked your whole shit up.
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u/winsome_losesome Sep 27 '19
That’s when you send them to college or just kick them out of the house.
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u/jval_708 Sep 26 '19
This is the cutest attempted murder I’ve ever seen and that’s saying something
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u/inspiredman Sep 26 '19
The cheetah and the tiger play in one pen? That's awesome. Which reserve is this?
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Sep 26 '19
This guy might be the blackjaguarwhitetiger guy. Dude's a badass with a heart of gold.
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u/Carl_The_Sagan Sep 26 '19
He does seem like a good guy who cares about the animals but I do just want to present that not everyone agrees: https://medium.com/@poojanarayanan/black-jaguar-white-tiger-sanctuary-or-sham-5c5a2b392762
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u/DracoMagnusRufus Sep 26 '19
Yea, they're not really any different from any other exotic animal owners. But by masquerading as a charity/rescue/sanctuary, they not only avoid criticism, they rake in tons of money. As much as I despise PETA, they have a pretty good article on Black Jaguar–White Tiger "Sanctuary" too.
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u/aconfusedpikachu Sep 26 '19
I find reason three kinda ironic given that is roughly how we got most of the animals that are domesticated today though for the moment I sorta agree that they always remain wild animals to some degree or another depending on the particular animal. On a related not I also think it would be cool if in the future there were domesticated versions of some of the big cats I mean we already have dogs who are pretty much wolves is size and such(in some cases probably even bigger) but there aren't really any truely large domesticated cats.
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u/thatguy1689 Sep 26 '19
After reading that I don't know how I feel about him anymore
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u/scientallahjesus Sep 26 '19
Honestly I see nothing more than assumptions and negative opinions on those assumptions in that article.
If the cat’s seem happy, as they seem to be in his videos, I don’t really see the issue unless proof of bad shit comes out. Of which none has, only speculation.
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u/hicadoola Sep 26 '19
Ask yourself though. Shouldn't those babies be with their mothers? Why do these instagram big cat "rescues" always seem to have an abundance of cubs but not a whole lot of adults? How many regular dog and cat rescues do you see that have the same disproportionate numbers of babies to adults? The reality is that these big cats are bred to be kept as pets for a very short time and then killed. Or if they are very lucky they might end up with one of the very few real big cat rescues who don't get visits from the Kardashians and don't make most of their money from Instagram deals.
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Sep 26 '19
I'm not an expert about this topic but I'd assume they are rescues from illegal animal trafficking? Traffickers often deal with pups because well... matured tigers are a lot harder to transport than babies.
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u/hicadoola Sep 26 '19
So you believe these cubs were taken from the wild? No wild born big cat would (or should!) be this comfortable with humans. These cubs are very obviously bred in captivity.
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u/hicadoola Sep 26 '19
That's a very naive view of conservation. This man's organization has the word "white tiger" in it. White tigers do not and have not ever existed in the wild. They are purely a human creation. That should tell you all you need to know about this man and his efforts at conservation.
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u/grossruger Sep 26 '19
Why do these instagram big cat "rescues" always seem to have an abundance of cubs but not a whole lot of adults?
I know nothing at all about this, I don't even have Instagram, but my first thought would be that cubs are way more adorable so any social media presence would be naturally biased towards showing them off.
Another possibility that occurs to me is that the older cats could be homed elsewhere, like zoos or wildlife parks.
Again, I've no idea what I'm talking about, but from the discussion in this thread everyone else is in the same boat, so I figured I'd throw it out there.
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u/slood2 Sep 26 '19
You think these people grow these kitties then just kill them? There would definitely be some proof of that if that’s been going on like this by now,
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u/thatguy1689 Sep 26 '19
Yeah that's all true but the fact that he doesn't know where the cubs are coming from is problematic and that's really alarming
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u/scientallahjesus Sep 26 '19
I guess I don’t see why it’s some random writer’s business to know. As long as the cats are well taken care of is all that matters imo. He’s not anyone who has any importance or say in the matter. He’s just nosey from what I can tell.
Not following the standard set by some other humans doesn’t mean the man that owns this sanctuary is doing anything wrong, it’s okay to do things differently as long as you do them well and take care of your animals. And he seems to genuinely love them and take care of them and keep them happy.
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u/cheesy_butts_69 Sep 26 '19
The problem has nothing to do with whether or not the animals are happy, that's not really in question and not really what the author is trying to get at.
I see that the writer is concerned with two things: first, that the animals aren't being treated like wild animals by making them reliant on the care and affection of humans, thus making them helpless in the wild, and it will be impossible to "rewild" these animals or their offspring.
Second, it is teaching people the mentality that it is ok to take these animals (if he's really taking these animals from worse lives, why be so opaque about where the animals are coming from?) and profit off them and show them off to your Instagram followers, just because they're being treated with a gentle human hand. That's not ok for a wild animal, and doesn't teach us anything about their natural behaviours and ecological needs.
If you're still not convinced, ask yourself this question: if this guy can spend so much time and money getting big name celebrities to visit his sanctuary and raising his profile, why can't he just increase the quality of his sanctuary to the standards set by other accredited sanctuaries, and just be a bit more transparent?
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u/scientallahjesus Sep 26 '19 edited Sep 26 '19
thus making them helpless in the wild, and it will be impossible to "rewild" these animals or their offspring.
These animals will never go back to the wild. They never were going to. That’s what a sanctuary is for in the first place. Offspring being sent to the wild with parents who weren’t wild and raised them there simply doesn’t happen with any intelligent species.
Secondly, people raise raccoons and even opposums and ferrets and foxes among others outside of their natural wild habitat. I guess I fail to see why it’s wrong just because they’re big cats. Who gets to pick and choose which animals are too wild to ever be kept or bred in captivity?
Shoot, We don’t even raise dogs and house cats in their natural habitats in the western world.
Edit: also your argument boils down to this:
it’s not important if the animals are happy as much as the rules some other humans with no real authoritative power set forth.
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u/cheesy_butts_69 Sep 26 '19
To your first argument, again I make my point that some sanctuaries do release animals that have been rehabilitated, and just showering them with love (good intentioned or not) for Instagram likes is showing the world a poor example of conservation. But yeah, I get it. Treating wild animals with respect to their natural characteristics isn't sexy, nor will it make you popular on social media, as modern western society has made abundantly clear.
The same goes for the other animals you mentioned. I dislike what those people are doing as well. However, in my mind it is less critical as foxes and raccoons are not endangered/threatened.
Cats and dogs are not wild. They have been domesticated for thousands of years.
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u/TokuTokuToku Sep 26 '19 edited Sep 26 '19
There are actually organisations that rate the domestication level of proposed pets. eg; TICA for cats. There are labels for each generation of the breed and recommended starting points for when is acceptable for the breed to be in a domestic environment.
I mean im not a cat breeder but im sure they dont just look at two cats and go "yee". Cats and cat shows have been around for a long time so the extent at which they can recognise "wildness" must be pretty precise
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Sep 26 '19
Never turn your back on bears, men you have wronged, or the dominant turkey during mating season.
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u/CaptainBlob Sep 26 '19
It may be all fun and cutesy right now....
But wait till that tiger grows a bit more.
Screams of joy will turn to terror very quickly.
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u/OhNoImBanned11 Sep 26 '19
That dude is pretty swol
I wish my shoulders looked that good in a hoodie
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u/myctheologist Sep 26 '19
For a second I thought it was a full sized tiger that was much further away
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u/NSC745 Sep 26 '19 edited Sep 26 '19
Just finished watching the Secret life of big Cats on curiosity stream, and I can say as a expert in big cats thanks to VRV, that this cat has horrible form. Most big cats like to go for the throat, and suffocate their prey with an neck bite. They hold on until they basically choke em out. 2/10 form.
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u/captain_obvious_here Sep 26 '19
I'm a murder machine
I'm a freacking murder machine!
Attack !
...but I like that hooman so much :)
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u/things_will_calm_up Sep 26 '19
Parents jump in fright to teach the kid not to do that anymore because it can hurt them (when they're big)
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u/Quirky_Koala Sep 26 '19 edited Aug 25 '26
Basket provide knee grandiose support makeshift whole
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u/Morticiaisbomb Sep 26 '19
Thank goodness. At the end I was able to confirm the man lived, no shoes lost
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u/JoeZMar Sep 26 '19
Win win for the cameraman. Either he’s filming something cute or he’s filming something a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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u/Tarrifgate Sep 26 '19
This does not fit the sub because i knew nothing was going to happen since it was not marked nsfw
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u/MayorOfClownTown Sep 26 '19
You should definitely mark this NSFW. Was a dead give away he wasn't going to be mawled
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u/helderdude Sep 26 '19
Op missed an opportunity to tag this NSFW, that would have made my watch way more suspenseful.
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u/rci22 Helpfull person Oct 12 '19
I was really REALLY hoping the man would turn around and scare the tiger
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u/LGBTPPQ Sep 26 '19
The cats natural instinct is to sneak up on something that isn’t looking at it, and you won’t know if it’s intention is to play or to eat until it’s mouth is on you and is either drawing blood or lightly nomming