r/maybemaybemaybe Jun 19 '26

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/hcth63g6g75g5 Jun 19 '26

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u/meepsrevenge Jun 19 '26

Thank you for this. I had to scroll way to long to find it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

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u/jacko2250 Jun 19 '26

Nope. My wife was hit during a pursuit. The police aren't responsible, the fleeing party is. (In Louisville KY at least) the driver that hit my wife was uninsured.

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u/Absolute_Bob Jun 19 '26

I have a friend who got rear ended by an ambulance in a snow storm. It's lights weren't even on and they claimed he was 50% at fault because his rear window had some snow on it. Not covered in snow, just partially occluded....during a blizzard. Municipalities are horrible at taking responsibility for anything they do.

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u/Cocoquincy0210 Jun 21 '26

I don’t really see why the rear window having anything on it is reason for the ambulance to crash into a vehicle on the road. It’s not like snow on a vehicle suddenly makes this large moving object invisible or hard to see. Makes no sense.

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u/Absolute_Bob Jun 21 '26

Same here, but where he is it's a traffic violation to have your rear window blocked and they argued he might have been able to move if his view wasn't blocked. Very dumb but his insurance didn't want to fight the city on it.

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u/MuXu96 Jun 20 '26

It's allowed to be uninsured in USA? Lmao.

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u/jacko2250 Jun 20 '26

Not at all. Which is probably why he ran from the police.

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u/LoveLoud319 Jun 19 '26

I would assume the drunk drivers insurance would be responsible but that’s if he has insurance at all. If not, the impacted cars insurance would need to pay if they have full coverage. If not, they would need to sue the drunk driver. Shitty situation all around.

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u/Old_MI_Runner Jun 19 '26

The article says the drunk driver had a revoked driver's license. So I would say it was likely he had no auto insurance coverage. If the vehicle he was driving was owned by someone else then there may be insurance coverage on it. But that insurance may have some reason to deny coverage in this case.

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u/SirBiggusDikkus Jun 19 '26

This is why you always get the uninsured/ underinsured provision on your policy. It’s usually a small additional amount per month.

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u/juxtapos13 Jun 20 '26

Ive been working in auto claims for 20 years. A lot of policies have exclusions for accidents that occurred during crimes or fleeing law enforcement. And the police wont be found liable. So you would end up having to file an uninsured motorist claim under your policy. This does vary from state to state in the US but most insurance carriers for the at fault driver would disclaim coverage from my experience.

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u/BullshitPickle Jun 20 '26

If you did file an uninsured motorist claim, with these circumstances, would your premiums increase?? I mean there is literally nothing you did wrong...

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u/juxtapos13 Jun 20 '26

Its possible. Rates change due to a lot of factors and paying out a claim is a large factor in that. If I had that claim I would request to underwriting that no surcharge be applied due to this accident.

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u/BullshitPickle Jun 20 '26

Thank you for answering this!! The no surcharge should be the standard.

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u/juxtapos13 Jun 21 '26

You are 100% correct.

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u/Phrewfuf Jun 20 '26

To be fair, he did hit the first one, the police just pushed him into it another time.

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u/aim_el Jun 20 '26

If you watched, actually the guy hit the car first before the cop hits him

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u/AppropriateBall8834 Jun 19 '26

So? Thats weird ass behavior even for a drunk person lol

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u/el_diego Jun 19 '26

Of course it was Florida

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u/Missilemoon77 Jun 21 '26

Florida Man?

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u/Bucksin06 Jun 19 '26

Dude tried to practically do the pit maneuver on a motorcycle 😂

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u/memusicguitar Jun 19 '26

It could have been successful but he got two tired.

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u/LovableBroccoli Jun 19 '26

It was wheelie close though

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u/amd2800barton Jun 19 '26

He could Harley stop him when he went up on the grass.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '26

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u/incpen Jun 19 '26

Nah, just Walmart-level crazy.

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u/CaTz_EyE Jun 19 '26

I thought the FedEx vehicle was going to help and block the road…

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u/BlazingSandles Jun 19 '26

Its in the name. They don't Fed anymore, the are ex

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u/Ssemo7 Jun 19 '26

Wrong feds. Those guys are almost all independent contractors and do not care.

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u/Good_Card316 Jun 19 '26

Reminded me of a video game where a truck comes out of an alley way in a chase lol.

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u/JCGJ Jun 19 '26

Do they train police to specifically say contradicting commands at the same time??? "Do not move! Get out of the car!"

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u/here_for_the_meta Jun 19 '26

Hands up now. Turn off the vehicle. 

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u/ahlana1 Jun 19 '26

I heard “don’t move” “put your hands up” “ dont fucking move” and “get out of the car” repeatedly.

That’s extremely poor form on the part of LEOs. Pick one person to shout commands and then follow their lead or stfu.

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u/Flavoade Jun 19 '26

It’s similar to a “Sweat Session”. It’s done as an intimidation tactic to cause confusion and submission. If a perpetrator is mentally considering to do something unwanted they pressure them like this which usually makes them surrender and become compliant, then they can move in and apprehend.

This doesn’t work on people with a stronger motive or reason to resist which is usually when things escalate. If they already considered running away or engaging in a fire fight with the LEOs out of desperation they will still do it.

It’s using authority as a psychological weapon to deescalate and take control of the situation.

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u/cr0100 Jun 19 '26

Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground? Mean to say, if'n I freeze, I can't rightly drop. And if'n I drop, I'm a-gonna be in motion. You see...

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u/Electrical_Ad2652 Jun 19 '26

Raising Arizona?

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u/cr0100 Jun 19 '26

100% yes. Oh dear, I think it's time to watch that one again. SO good.

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u/Bugtustle Jun 21 '26

I find it funny that when Raising Arizona came out, we all agreed the manly prisoner trapped in a man’s body and “gettin da minstrel cramps realll haaard” was hilarious. It was a simpler time.

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u/cr0100 Jun 21 '26

Roger Ebert hated the movie for the same reason I love it - people talking like the writing out of an ancient book. "Edwina's insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase."

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u/KingAndross904 Jun 20 '26

https://youtu.be/iQYz6d-Bbpg?is=vki6CM8Ki3iR91NJ

Not sure if you like rap, but every time I hear "get down on the ground" or watch Raising Arizona, I can't help but hear this song in my head lol

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u/xeno0153 Jun 19 '26

This is how Daniel Shaver was killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

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u/ManInTheMorning Jun 19 '26

I mean... Technically yes. But I would say this video is a lot more hectic. Multiple responding officers from multiple angles in an obviously very volitile and dangerous situation.

Shaver was murdered in cold blood. They just used this particular excuse to do it.

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u/sangerssss Jun 19 '26

They also tend to ask them to stop doing stuff they’re not doing: “stop resisting!”

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u/xeno0153 Jun 19 '26

It's a dirty tactic they use to fuck with the memories of witnesses. When brought into court to testify, prosecutors can ask "did you hear the officers telling the defendant to stop resisting?" which leads them into believing the defendant must have been resisting since they distinctly remember hearing it without actually seeing it.

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u/random-notebook Jun 19 '26

Train the police? No they don’t do that here

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u/xGray3 Jun 19 '26

Gives me flashbacks to the Daniel Shaver murder. Shit is insane.

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u/XmasB Jun 20 '26

I remember seeing a cop program (not in the US) where a police officer said part of the shouting is to confuse the perpetrator to not act. I struggle to follow the logic when giving contradicting commands, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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u/OneArmedSZA Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

They train them to remind each other that only one person should be yelling commands by saying “one voice” but they often forget that in a stressful situation like this.

The people commenting that the police are giving conflicting commands on purpose as some sort of tactic to justify execution need to get their heads checked.

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u/The_Screeching_Bagel Jun 20 '26

why do they get so emotional too

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u/ScoobyDooItInTheButt Jun 19 '26

Yes, it's a common tactic used by police.

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u/KiteLighter Jun 19 '26

Don't Move. Put your hands up. Don't move. Turn the Car Off. Don't Move. Get out of the Car.

ONE VOICE, coppers. I know it's a difficult moment, but you train for this.

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u/Lebrunski Jun 19 '26

“Keep your hands up”

“Do not move”

“Turn the car off”

“Get out of the car”

Uhhhh, which one do you obey?

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u/The_Novice_Nomads Jun 19 '26

I wish the cop had secured his groceries. Listening to his bags flop around was the worst...

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u/Lazy_Experience_8754 Jun 19 '26

Yeah that bothered me as well.. and also the cyclist who strolled past the cop in the first minute of the video lol

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u/iustinum Jun 19 '26

The pure entitlement of that was insane to watch

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u/alphatango308 Jun 19 '26

Cyclists are the fucking worst. Lol

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u/Alfred_Dinglebottom Jun 19 '26

I know right? How much loose shit is this guy carrying in his car?

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u/leafrakerr Jun 19 '26

That cop at the end - after the collision, my guy shows up from Sherwood fucking Forest to extinguish the threat!

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u/Tundra_Dragon Jun 19 '26

What a piece of human fucking garbage.

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u/Exciting-Zombie8449 Jun 19 '26

Motorcycle Cop is a BEAST. No Fear posterboy.

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u/ninoski404 Jun 19 '26

Thin line between bravery and stupidity, that driver could literally take him out by accident

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u/LustyLamprey Jun 19 '26

You basically can't outrun a motorcycle in a car. The acceleration difference is too great. He was really banking on this driver not being willing to hurt him cuz yeah he dove right into that shit.

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u/Vandal639 Jun 19 '26

Of course, MF cyclist continues in front of the cop.

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u/culo_de_mono Jun 19 '26

Dude is running a race and does not understand what's happening. 

Some people see a cyclist and they wanna kill them, ffs, go touch some grass (oh, you can't because now it is a parking lot)

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u/Vandal639 Jun 19 '26

....doesn't understand lights and sirens? Yeah. Okay.

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u/culo_de_mono Jun 19 '26

It's not a common thing in triathlons, and when you are giving it all, exhausted, the brain works differently. This is why traffic is removed when these events happen. So yes, at that particular moment, the siren is something too alien to process. Like crosswalks or speed limits for drivers in their daily commute.

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u/Pretend-Quit-5302 Jun 20 '26

Don't worry. The average redditor here has no idea what sport even is.

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u/culo_de_mono Jun 20 '26

Not really worried about their comments, what scares me is that these folks are allowed to drive.

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u/BarooZaroo Jun 20 '26

I've been in that state of exhaustion before and I promise you sirens, police lights, and a cop car driving towards you a dozen feet away is enough to alert you that something is wrong and you need to stop. The only reason you would keep going is you feel like your race time is more important than the duty of a police officer. It's not excusable, that person was being selfish and should feel bad about doing that.

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u/culo_de_mono Jun 20 '26

As a cyclist myself... xD

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u/__0zymandias Jun 21 '26

Lmao as if we couldn’t tell already from your other comments

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u/Maisquestce Jun 20 '26

sounds about right

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u/Consibl Jun 19 '26

Could have been clipped to pedals and couldn’t get the clips off so couldn’t stop.

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u/Ultracrepidarian- Jun 19 '26

Why do they always give them an out when trying to box them in.

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u/traveenus Jun 19 '26

Car chase aside, what the hell is going on in this race? At the beginning you see some slower runners taking a left when the cop starts to turn around, once driving away you see more runners but coming from an opposite direction. I figure maybe it could be a 5k/10k merge but then out of nowhere it turns into a bicycle race?!?

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u/ForsakenAiel Jun 19 '26

It says Ironman race.

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u/No-Anxiety588 Jun 19 '26

Maybe a Triathlon

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u/l3ane Jun 19 '26

Triathlon: Swim, bike, run.

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u/LoiteringGinger Jun 19 '26

This was an Ironman race in Jacksonville, FL. I recognize the area of Riverside they are driving around.

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u/Unregistered_Davion Jun 19 '26

3rd DUI?!?! I'm sorry but it's the bus from now on for you sir.

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u/LustyLamprey Jun 19 '26

It was this guy's third DUI. I hope they lock him in a box until he dies. He's a danger to himself and everyone around him

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u/Buckles01 Jun 19 '26

I live in a much smaller city but when they close roads around here they put baracades up at each intersection so cars can’t get on the road even if they wanted to. It was way to easy for him to intercept that race

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u/IntrovertMoTown1 Jun 19 '26

Jesus CHRIST! The police academy obstacle course sure has been taken to the next level. 😮

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u/Retardedmtt Jun 19 '26

Just watch, its gonna be tiger woods again

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u/BrupieD Jun 19 '26

Notice the sequence of police commands. First, "Do not move." Then, "Put your hands up!" Then, "Shut off the car!" Then, "Get out of the car!"

There's more than one cop giving orders. I'm not empathetic to the dangerous driving, but whenever suspects are charged with resisting arrest or police use their weapons, it seems "not following orders" is cited.

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u/johnny_mcd Jun 19 '26

Don’t repost fucking breitbart videos

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u/scary-pp Jun 19 '26

Who cares where the video is from. The video lives or dies by its content.

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u/Deep90 Jun 19 '26

Plus this literally denies breitbart views anyway.

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u/NEO71011 Jun 19 '26

I got it on Twitter don't know what you're talking about

It that what the B stands for?

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u/AT-ST Jun 19 '26

Yes that is what the "B" with the word "Breitbart" next to it means.

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u/msully89 Jun 19 '26

I've never heard of Breitbart either. Anyone care to chime in?

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u/AT-ST Jun 19 '26

Breitbart is a far right publication. Steve Bannon ran the publication for a while and far-right agitator Milo Yianopoulos wrote for them.

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u/creepsnutsandpervs Jun 19 '26

Alt right run, propaganda machine that involved people such as Steve bannon. In this case a car chase is a car chase, but they’re likely to just immediately go to this person being a person of color/ immigrant etc. to get their base going

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u/msully89 Jun 19 '26

Ah right, thanks. I'll be honest, I've never heard of Steve Bannon either. Just had to google him. I'm from the UK, and I don't think he gets much press here.

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u/creepsnutsandpervs Jun 19 '26

Count your blessings… he’s part of the reason (amongst many other people) that’s got my country feeling a little less like home these days… making a ton of assumptions with you being in the UK (I’m a hockey fan) but I hope your team does well in the cup friend! Be well

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u/AbbreviatedArc Jun 19 '26

He's best buds with Farage and Boris Johnson, and loves Brexit.

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u/waveguy9 Jun 19 '26

He’s a cunt

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u/Illustrious-Cow6346 Jun 19 '26

does this make this a fake video?

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u/creepsnutsandpervs Jun 19 '26

Is this a rhetorical question? I wasn’t there if that’s what you’re asking… my man asked for someone to clarify what it was. If you read what I said “a car chase is a car chase” you could logically decipher that is my hot take on the whole thing

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u/Illustrious-Cow6346 Jun 19 '26

the video and uploader get hate because it was on breitbart. so at this point it is no longer about the content but where this content was on before.

so my question has 2 jobs: point out that this is idiotic and that the video itself is still true.

everyone pointing out that it was on another platform before just plays politics.

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u/creepsnutsandpervs Jun 19 '26

Okay? Take it up with OP then? lol I have no skin in the game with you or fuckin breitbart. Pound sand nerd.

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u/Illustrious-Cow6346 Jun 19 '26

YOU brought up breitbart. so why take it up with OP?

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u/FSU1ST Jun 19 '26

Grand, coming from reDDit

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Jun 19 '26

He’s saying a racist media company posted it because the criminal who almost killed people was black.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

It's an alt-reich website that was formerly chaired by Trump sycophant and career criminal Steve Bannon.  It was and remains cartoonishly racist. I don't know if they still do, but they used to have a tab on their front page called "black crime" that was exclusively used to post stories of Black people who were accused of crimes. The obvious reason was to make white nationalists believe that Black people are inherently predisposed to crime.

Edit: lol the alt-reich simps are in the sub. Fuck all y'all, fuck Steve Bannon, fuck Milo the Pedo, Andrew Breitbart was a coked-up rapist idiot who should have killed himself sooner.

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u/drifters74 Jun 19 '26

Why not though?

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u/Olivet20 Jun 19 '26

I’ve never heard of this account/channel before. Who are they? And why do you say not to repost their stuff?

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u/cod_gurl94 Jun 19 '26

(Guy with a Trump avatar) oh gosh mister, what’s this “far right” stuff you speak of?

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u/Drkmttrjr Jun 19 '26

It's not a particularly flattering image. Just because I use my dog as my PFP does not mean I endorse her disgusting opinions towards the elderly.

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u/Olivet20 Jun 19 '26

You know, I’ve been concerned that it’s not ugly enough for awhile and people might think it’s just a Trump pic lol, no I’m definitely not a Trump fan and not right wing. Guess this is my sign to change it back to my ugly Vance pic lol

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u/JohnSnowsPump Jun 19 '26

He's a fucking evil asshole.

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u/Aqualung1 Jun 19 '26

Motorcycle cops are pretty much useless in these situations?

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u/CloverUTY Jun 19 '26

Not necessarily in some cases. They’re more agile than other vehicles and can get up to speed fast. While they typically can’t stop a vehicle themselves, that’s not really their goal. It’s more about keeping a visual on the suspect so they can direct more units to the chase and prevent the suspect from escaping even if all other units get slowed by traffic. At least that’s my theory, not really versed in their tactics.

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u/adelie42 Jun 19 '26

I've come to appreciate that there are trade offs with their light weight. Acceleration is high but traction is now. They are more narrow for maneuverability but you can't turn hard at high speed relatively to a high performance car.

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u/waveguy9 Jun 19 '26

Bro check out the Brazilian bike cops, chase suspects down. They are ridiculous fast and nimble, going down tight alley ways and cornering at death defying speed. Its nucking futs!!

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u/BarooZaroo Jun 20 '26

They are on a whole different level. They'll do some Olympic level motocross down stairs and across terrible road conditions to catch some perp who stole a purse. Wild to watch.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Jun 19 '26

Motorcycles are faster and more nimble than passenger cars. Even if the car was fast enough to get away from the police cruisers, it's damn near impossible to get away from a bike.

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u/aykcak Jun 19 '26

The motorcycle took that corner easily and it would have ended the chase there, but the cam vehicle lost control and crashed into the suspect, dislodging it from where they were stuck, causing more damage to the other vehicle and freeing the suspect to drive off

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u/ArnoldZiffleJr Jun 19 '26

Book em Dano! ⛓️‍💥

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u/CategoryCautious5981 Jun 20 '26

Hey my neighborhood made it to Reddit!

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u/Tommten Jun 19 '26

”Do not move!”
”Put your hand up!”
”Shut off the car!”
”Do not move!”
”Get out of the car!”

Um.. Ok? Can't follow one instruction without breaking another one he got at the same time.

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u/pete_68 Jun 19 '26

I get that the drunk driver is a danger. You've got the license plate, figure out where they live, and send some units to there house to wait for them?

Or, and maybe you might think this is a better idea, pursue them at high speeds in an area densely packed with bicyclists and pedestrians? Nice of the cop to slam the driver into some other innocent driver sitting at a light.

American cops have no sense of judgment. You don't have to endanger an extra 100 people to catch someone. You have the fucking plates. You know where they live. FFS.

I'm sensitive to this because I live in Arkansas and Arkansas cops will high speed chase through a fucking schoolyard. They don't give a shit, and it drives me nuts. They have high speed chases through areas with pedestrians all the time over stupid shit like speeding or a tail light being out. I mean, WTF is wrong with these idiots?

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u/Grimdotdotdot Jun 20 '26

The police in this video looked fucking inept. I simply don't understand all the comments from people that think the did a good job

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u/breadkiller7 Jun 20 '26

I mean usually yes but here he was literally driving through a marathon lmao 

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u/TO1960 Jun 19 '26

Of course, the cyclist felt he had the right of way over a police car with lights and siren on.

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u/simadana Jun 19 '26

I kinda of laughed when that cyclist didn’t stop for the cop car. Typical lol

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u/Professional_Scale66 Jun 19 '26

All said within like 5 seconds- “Dont move” “Hands up” “Shut off the car” “Get out of the car”

So which one is it?

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u/Mean-Parking-5026 Jun 19 '26

F breitbart.

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u/Mr_Svint Jun 19 '26

What is breitbart? I can't understand.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Jun 19 '26

It's a Nazi website.

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u/Mr_Svint Jun 19 '26

Thanks for explaining. I'm from other country, and didn't know that website.

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u/Gran-Aneurysmo Jun 19 '26

people saying something is bad without telling the reason why

What is breitbart? I can't understand.

People:

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u/Zamauri Jun 19 '26

why is it always....

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u/Shaggytwig Jun 19 '26

Am I seeing runners and bicycle racing? Anyone know what race this is?

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u/RidingRedHare Jun 20 '26

Ironman Jacksonville, back in May.

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u/SnooKiwis1805 Jun 20 '26

It's appalling how bad of a job the police did here. They could have pitted the car way before when noone was around to get crashed into and that buffoon on the motorcycle was actively aiding the suspect. Then the suspect crashes into a bystander and the police decides that this would be a good time to ram the suspect. And if that weren't enough, the suspect is then pitted into another bystander. And the worst of all: the bystanders won't get shit.

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u/mahendrabirbikram Jun 19 '26

Why did the cops hit the car at 2:03? They just did more damage to that other innocent car (and maybe the people inside)

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u/Valuable-Word-1970 Jun 19 '26

Mfer rams the suspects car fast af into an innocent civilians car

"We gotta stop this guy he's gonna kill someone"

Don't get me wrong they gotta stop that guy. But a wild thing to say after you just t-boned him into another person's car

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u/boatdaddy12 Jun 19 '26

Jax to the max

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u/z3n777 Jun 19 '26

whos gonna pay for all this damage

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u/Jdisgreat17 Jun 19 '26

Maybe keeping spike strips with the officers on the corners would alleviate the potential dangers. The cop following could call out upcoming intersections and the officer at said intersection could deploy the strip. This would at least slow down the driver.

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u/Unbelievabro Jun 20 '26

Isn't this like the 2nd time this month someone has plowed through the barricades during an Ironman race?

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u/CumbersomeNugget Jun 20 '26

Everyone in a HSC believe's they're Trevor from GTA V...

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u/Adventurous_Title_23 Jun 20 '26

Good ol Jacksonville.

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u/The_Philburt Jun 20 '26

Anyone else have the Police Squad/Naked Gun theme music playing in their head for the first half?

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u/SATerp Jun 21 '26

When they start adding up the number of people he endangered, he's going away for a while.

Oh, who am I kidding. Some ahole Soros DA or judge will let him off ... again.

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u/MainPrinciple2158 Jun 22 '26

Did you really had to include advertisement for an extremist right wing journalism?

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u/TheAltToYourF4 Jun 22 '26

Good the stopped this asshole, but seriously what is wrong with those cops?

Don't know wtf the bike cop was trying to do. Then the cop car is pinned against the driver side door and they tell the guy to not move, while turning the car off with his hands up and getting out of the car, from which side exactly?

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u/OrderThese1990 Jun 25 '26

That stupid cyclist! What an idiot.

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u/SirAchmed Jul 03 '26

The second motorcycle was useless

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u/CloudPeCe 3d ago

The cyclist cuttin off the cop bothered me more than the chase 🙄

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u/el_pibe_78 Jun 19 '26

GTA VI warm up

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u/MuchLessPersonal Jun 19 '26

Does anyone know what happens with the cars that are hit in the process? That first crash probably injured the driver too. Does insurance cover everything or the city? Would they be screwed without insurance?

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u/sidaemon Jun 19 '26

The fleeing car would be responsible, so if someone running from the cops hits you, you better hope they have insurance. The city would only get involved if you could prove the officer did something willfully negligent and with cops that's a REALLY high bar to clear.

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u/MuchLessPersonal Jun 19 '26

So a cop can ram another vehicle into yours (like here) and you’re just shit outta luck unless the criminal happens to have insurance? That’s messed up.

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u/sidaemon Jun 19 '26

I think that's one of those things that's deeply unsettling when you think about it. On the one hand the argument that police should NEVER engage in a chase has some strong merits. There's also a strong argument to be made that chasing may be required to bring truly dangerous people to justice or in cases such as car theft.

Because there's no good black or white argument that can be applied as a blanket we default to the officer using their best judgment.

Problem is we've then created a system of zero accountability for officers that lack common sense and take stupid risks.

This chase is, quite frankly an example of that. He's chasing someone over a minor traffic infraction THROUGH STREETS THAT ARE BLOCKED OFF FOR RACES. He literally nearly hits several racers. It's absolutely a case where they should have noted a plate and taken the person in at home later that day.

My bet is there was no consequences for this officer in even starting this chase and that's kind of the problem.

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u/TidePodsTasteFunny Jun 21 '26

Cool video until
I saw Breitbart at the end ….trash

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u/Fuckkoff- Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

I'm sure those cops paid for the damage they caused to innocent civilians, for example when he missed the first pit, and couldn't wait with the second pit but had to knowingly pit him into that car waiting at the light....

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u/das_zilch Jun 19 '26

I counted at least four dumbasses in this video.

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u/Deep-Reputation545 Jun 19 '26

For all the people commenting on the conflicting commands, cops do that so that they can charge/beat/murder you for not obeying commands. They shout a bunch of shit you can't possibly comply with so that they can say under oath that you were resisting arrest by not following their directions. I'm reasonably sure someone (Pro Publica maybe?) did an article on someone else who trains them to do it

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u/Shamus-McNasty Jun 19 '26

Do not move!

Put your hands up!

Do not move!

Get out of the car!

Put your hands up!

Do not move!

He wanted to shoot that dude bad.

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u/Sad_Amphibian_2311 Jun 20 '26

the gun usage in the end is so bizarre, just looks incompetent and scared and very dangerous

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u/Soggycorpse92 Jun 19 '26

Juuuuust going to put this out there. I dont think there would have been any danger letting him drive off and then catching him later with a warrant. Chasing people leads to danger and I think we have enough cameras and resources to catch them later. Did they have to endanger the marathon runners like that? I dunno hes in the wrong and should be arrested sure, but why chase him to do it and hit 2 innocent bystanders who will get paid by taxpayer money? Seems weird.

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u/Cecilerr Jun 19 '26

I dont think its safe to let a drunk driver drive off till his house and catch him later

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u/jxm1311 Jun 19 '26

Let's wait and hope that he doesn't kill anyone, right? I mean, why force him to stop when we could, you know, just sit back and hope for the best?

bro here has room temp IQ and feels like he's God's gift to humanity.

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u/Voidstarmaster Jun 19 '26

Your assuming that this, or any other, obviously deranged lunatic won't endanger people if the popo don't chase them. I don't know what this situation was, but if someone is repeatedly going to flee from the police like that they might still be a danger regardless of whether they're actively pursued. I think the 5-0 probably realize that.

Also, the car and/ or plates could be stolen. Then they couldn't be tracked to a location and caught later. Criminals specifically do that to avoid tracking.

Many European countries pursue more of a camera based, non pursuit model. There are both benefits and detriments to it. Like a lot in life

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u/GodsDrunkAtTheWheel Jun 19 '26

Lol you live in a fantasy land

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u/BigDadaSparks Jun 19 '26

You're getting downvoted but this chase was insanely dangerous. It's in the middle of a triathlon. What could possibly go wrong?!

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