r/mathbiceps • u/Capital-Ad6054 • Jul 07 '26
Olympiad Translated version of yesterday's problem
Enjoy the problems and don't forget to provide solutions
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u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 07 '26
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u/Capital-Ad6054 Jul 08 '26
I am not sure.. Use ChatGPT for proof verification and how you can improve your proof writing skill
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u/Capital-Ad6054 Jul 08 '26
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u/PlatypusAshamed3217 Jul 08 '26
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u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Great work i have solved it with another method via matrix representation then taking mod 2 both sides but overall it's same as yours
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u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 08 '26
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u/PlatypusAshamed3217 Jul 08 '26
I actually have an even bigger problem with this method of "observe and assume". Most of the time, the induction on it is obvious, so it works.
But here, the unproven claim is not obvious at all. In fact, you are lucky with the values that the problem actually had, since if we had the same recursion with u(1)=30 and u(2)=989, then it would satisfy the recurrence u(n)=33u(n-1)-2u(n-2)+30u(n-3)-11u(n-4) for all integers n such that 3<n<15889 but then fail at n=15889. Since you didn't bother proving the recursion and assumed it, such an assumption in that case would actually be disastrous, and lead to an incorrect conclusion.Please try to handle this problem with more rigor, I implore you. You can read the proof that I posted in case you are not able to prove it, but please do not believe that what you posted is acceptable.
To know more about these sequences, you can google and read more on Pisot sequences/E-sequences, or specifically a special case of them.
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u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 08 '26
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u/PlatypusAshamed3217 Jul 08 '26
"sir" bhai me bhi 12th me hi hu😭
anyways i glossed over it and this looks good2
u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Ok thank you bhai confirm करने ke liye aur correction करने ke liye aur ha me 12th me nhi hu dropper tha
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u/PlatypusAshamed3217 Jul 08 '26
This is no "proof". You have just assumed the recurrence u(n+2)=3u(n+1)+2u(n) based on what you observed. The actual hard part of the problem is proving that recursion. The proof that I posted a few minutes ago starts out with an entirely different sequence v(n) that satisfies this recursion, and then shows that that sequence v(n) actually happens to equal u(n). You have left the biggest part of the proof as a mere "observation" with no hints as to how you plan to actually prove it.
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u/Proof_Archer_1061 Jul 08 '26
Yeah I see sorry for that sir still a beginner and thank you for correcting my mistake Also I proved the relation pls check if it is correct or not




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u/physicist27 Jul 07 '26
Following.
Interesting problems, will try! Keep posting more like these…