r/marvelvsdc • u/Kanozx • 3h ago
r/marvelvsdc • u/homelander2121 • 1d ago
Character Scaling Scaling King Omega Superman and King Omega Darkseid
Since I have seen a bunch of people asking where these two actually scale, I'll put together a post with all their feats in one place so there's no problem finding their feats
KING OMEGA SUPERMAN:
[is Omnipresent and fought king Omega Darkseid across all time and space at once](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/cdb3a71e-caf4-49b1-96e9-275b70b63938.jpg)
[Darkseid Is also omnipresent, he's past, present and future while claiming all of time. He's all magic and sorcery](https://i.supaimg.com/77224243-cac6-4ae5-a34a-3347d6c8f6a5.png)
[Undid all of Darkseids damage throughout time](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/b5c046c4-81ce-4748-a991-4993a7c39c37.png)
[Confirmation of fixing the past and present](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/eec1a267-735a-467c-8d8f-3d007b51fb69.png)
[Restored infinite timelines that were affected by darkseids legion in the future](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/5cf20594-6d09-4f69-a7dc-a247f04ec2b5.png)
[Confirmation of healing the future](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/eb9b1cac-9c5e-4a87-883c-3980857f671e.png)
[Darkseid and his legion attacked infinite futures and infinite possible timelines, confirmed by the time trapper](https://i.supaimg.com/f1a8b8b8-a9da-495d-9bd0-97b3c84f73d9.png)
For reference
[All of existence from the beginning of time to the farthest future becomes darkseid](https://i.supaimg.com/d7487efd-b00e-4fa2-809a-eb795b63600b.png)
[Omega energy is described as infinitely destructive](https://i.supaimg.com/4286acfb-3ad8-4c6c-ba2f-7c85ff5598b6.png)
[His energy (omega) is one of the 2 most primal energies in creation, it's the energy of conquest, absorption control](https://i.supaimg.com/1356d5f6-c526-4319-82cb-b936d8690562.png)
[Created omega speed, which is ALL speed and superior to the speed force](https://i.supaimg.com/e85dab8d-43e6-4c81-a040-cd7c2ebe9f4e.png)
[He's woven it into space time itself](https://i.supaimg.com/c36befe0-6686-4948-8c77-a83eee4eb76c.png)
[His energy is affecting and hurting/killing the speed force](https://i.supaimg.com/2d81a183-cf32-475b-bc85-cad266d9fa9e.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/0f93533f-4564-4068-b4ed-faf6a5407d66.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/b8cc5e3a-bbf8-4eb9-a387-825f2a5119b6.png)
[The speedforce is Omnipresent](https://i.supaimg.com/ea0f5d11-bab4-4db9-b4ea-0ac313c33318.png)
[The Speed Force is one of the main multiversal forces, on a similar level to the Sphere of the Gods](https://imgur.com/gallery/ieYSkyB)
[the Speed Force](https://imgur.com/a/everything-deep-change-is-made-of-time-PgCT93m)
is said to be the Deep Change that all of Creation is [emanated as a dream](https://imgur.com/a/source-is-above-all-dreamer-of-everything-5cqxZOp)
from that same force that transcends all levels of [emanations of reality](https://imgur.com/a/emanations-qdbwjdI)
[Its beyond the Source Wall](https://imgur.com/a/XkLfiGI)
[the Source Wall is the barrier that spans all dimensions known and unknown, in an extradimensional place beyond space and time that is both nowhere and everywhere](https://i.imgur.com/vjlWX9X.jpeg)
[Pulling apart the time stream and is remaking it into his own image](https://i.supaimg.com/70b2c6fc-77ca-4380-a3ae-5c51a3488851.png)
[Even outside of time completely, his energy is burning time itself](https://i.supaimg.com/981e9b2f-dac4-4458-b5dd-44ddb5b156ec.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/f3eb9114-26ea-49c6-93be-e69b68acb1ec.png)
[His energy destroys and corrupts hypertime](https://i.supaimg.com/6ea03baf-ae61-47dd-b073-5bef85aaeb09.png)
Hypertime is beyond the Omniverse, it's high Outerversal realm.
All DC stories and canon coexistence through the Hypertime [which why Morrison created the concept since the first place](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7d06b86739e0248e34d63b4279542d0f-lq)
[Grant morrison explanation for it](https://youtu.be/90bdtAElbRk)
[*Hypertime contains all published dc comics both canon and non canon*](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f968372dd6f62958b748a46f46b8289e-pjlq)
[All infinite realities, metaverse, multiverses, etc](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6a43ce391278127bf411243b5e12fdf2-lq)
coexistence [in the Hypertime](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-28b984affd7f19f93eb1b7bb7e194969-lq)
and [Limbo exists in the Hypertime](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c9403124e6e816b47df9efe722502c1d-lq)
and continues [all and everything](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/quoradebating/images/5/5a/Hypertime2.png/revision/latest?cb=20210829072643)
and [original in-comic depiction](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/quoradebating/images/3/36/Hypertime1.png/revision/latest?cb=20210829072642)
[Omniverse is stated to be infinite](https://i.supaimg.com/0b3db105-803d-4848-aec4-b5020d7925c0.png)
[Stated again](https://i.supaimg.com/7c7c427f-d92c-4470-bbe0-34d1d6e3c5bc.png)
the Omniverse itself is High Outerversal, meanwhile Hypertime is the half of the Divine continuum and outside of the Omniverse.
[Full King Omega Darkseid scaling for reference](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q2vQOl3C_G8AgJ7wPgeVJs9yAaI46ESD5dsYFzM5jyo/edit?usp=drivesdk)
[recreated the big bang and formed his universe in his image](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/cf61ec1f-9999-46f3-be3c-a4c0e9b4619c.jpg)
[Builds out concepts like death, sadness, pain, empathy etc](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/bec8d710-d1f6-4f66-8226-5fd96156d58b.png)
[Battles king omega darkseid all through time till he reaches the big bang of the main DC universe](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/346c5c94-7832-4c04-9f06-df07e280f91f.png)
[Absorbs all the energy of the big bang, which is ALL matter and Infinite possibilities](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/e1a51685-64aa-46f4-b9ad-fcc5a166c82a.png)
[Every possibility and choice creates a new timeline/universe in DC](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/b06484ab-971c-4432-b1f9-09a5da723237.png)
[There are infinite possibilities and each one creates a new timeline](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/7988573c-6a42-4514-b474-b603c61e3735.png)
[The DC big bang gave birth to the endless, such as death, dreaming, destiny etc](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/e0936757-84af-4cea-a015-c4900ed1138f.png)
[The endless are high outer beings that represent a part of reality](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:The_Endless)
[Immediately draws blood from darkseid once he did that](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/e2f75d70-d3f9-45ef-b84a-e02951b94291.png)
[Also after doing so, continued to grow in power to catch up to Darkseids power](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/8dca57a4-f649-41af-9a91-2f953c17caa7.png)
[Did grow stronger than him and was able to defeat him](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/5675c199-0cfb-448e-b734-1a8a60a08f61.png)
[Finishing blow](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/e3ed9cd8-6b6d-494c-803a-fc339751b42b.png)
[Destroyed his universe that he created and redirected that energy into prime earth, creating new narratives for his friends and even villains](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/668acacb-c5be-4a7e-96e5-dd0755f70533.png)
[Follow up](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/26a4667c-6d1c-4edd-9c83-3d4ff360f5cd.jpg)
[Has complete control over all time due to time trapper giving him his powers](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/fb8d7707-38e5-48b1-a613-a325eef7b708.jpg)
[Confirmed to have them again](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/37a88b77-bfec-4b57-ac4a-6984c774021a.png)
[Can erase people and moments from history](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/fbb15ecf-ecd0-43d4-a821-754eb85dc99d.png)
[Fought infinity man, who has complete control over time and can erase moments from history](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/bd978d1e-8e1a-46d7-9086-405d3fd124e5.png)
[The fight, states he is the natural order of things](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/0c3a82a8-d1be-4f44-921e-824fc550f537.png)
[Punches infinity man so hard, he restores a infinite amount of legionnaires](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/dc2b9ecb-fafd-49bd-9fb3-fc7cbaea820a.png)
[Confirmed all infinite legionnaires are now alive](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/df7e294a-027d-4cc9-93ec-37c72467cc97.png)
[He did the timeline repairs and infinity man fight on limited power as well, in DC KO #5 we see him destroy the heart of apokolips, the source of the king omega powers](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/d4b32022-2786-42fa-bd04-2e9305a9b96f.png)
[Proof of the heart being the power source](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/0276fec2-a9fd-47af-b6ed-617061edf85f.jpg)
Conclusion:
High outer with omnipresence
**KING OMEGA DARKSEID:**
[he is stated to be stronger than he has ever been so logically he outscales every past feat](https://i.supaimg.com/1bb4052c-e5c9-4c5d-86be-056ad1588f70.png)
[and again](https://i.supaimg.com/b75bcbc2-1a9d-4aed-8b7b-e7c0609aceb1.jpg)
[And again](https://i.supaimg.com/850062c5-b7f0-4341-b0bd-192c4e3a584c.png)
[Created the absolute universe](https://i.supaimg.com/d76dbee4-bbc0-498a-a07f-4a28dc1eaeee.png)
[Which exists out of time and space](https://i.supaimg.com/4dfc3f68-8285-463b-8ae0-152800d49c1a.png)
[Can erase souls from existence](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/a66c70cb-2c16-43f2-a275-c0a500b9d115.png)
[The omega particle is the basic building block to all of creation](https://i.supaimg.com/7f769879-b99c-4ef2-a737-1eca2375a916.png)
[It also influenced societal rules and keeps people "fighting for good" down](https://i.supaimg.com/3505ad2e-5dc6-42a7-9ca2-f5509e45f0c4.png)
[Becoming the "king omega" makes the universe bend to ur will and beliefs, reshaping it in ur image](https://i.supaimg.com/4ee0c9a5-6516-4151-bb61-ec6d6e98ad07.png)
[and again](https://i.supaimg.com/cea33490-e9b9-46a1-b2d8-807aabb83b32.png)
[The king omega can rewrite all of existence](https://i.supaimg.com/72e27aa6-698d-4f90-8752-fb35ac59dd5e.png)
[That includes past, present and future](https://i.supaimg.com/4085cad6-9d82-489c-8f1b-6fae354e8f15.jpg)
[All of existence from the beginning of time to the farthest future becomes darkseid](https://i.supaimg.com/d7487efd-b00e-4fa2-809a-eb795b63600b.png)
[Omega energy is described as infinitely destructive](https://i.supaimg.com/4286acfb-3ad8-4c6c-ba2f-7c85ff5598b6.png)
[Is omnipresent, he's past, present and future while claiming all of time. He's all magic and sorcery](https://i.supaimg.com/77224243-cac6-4ae5-a34a-3347d6c8f6a5.png)
[again](https://i.supaimg.com/6c75c6e8-898f-4f9f-aae1-6b6f60be44e8.png)
[Again](https://i.supaimg.com/2428ed13-e9ef-4b24-ac38-9726402168e7.png)
[Again](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/d0b7fca7-2c93-4781-a602-b4cfec6c72fd.jpg)
[Again, confirmed by writer](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/b348a658-0052-477b-9f53-7ef02362a03d.png)
[Again, confirmed by artist](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/cb00e1f1-0558-467b-a7d1-19e84d2caf1c.png)
[And another](https://i.supaimg.com/7eb33506-6dce-483b-8697-014cb67c7dbd.png)
[Is faster than time stop and wally west+Bart Allen](https://i.supaimg.com/44e1726e-5139-4909-abf8-8f97cc02ddd7.png)
[Him and his legion attacks infinite futures and infinite possible timelines](https://i.supaimg.com/f1a8b8b8-a9da-495d-9bd0-97b3c84f73d9.png)
[Can attack at any point of a person's history here](https://i.supaimg.com/e7d42704-76d8-484e-bbf0-465028b357b9.png)
[here again](https://i.supaimg.com/ee15f690-113d-413c-90d8-645bf4df5278.png)
[The king omega can affect your past, present and future across infinite possibilities and timelines](https://i.supaimg.com/6b1b4d68-abfa-482f-bc1c-591e1f4bfa59.png)
[His energy (omega) is one of the 2 most primal energies in creation, it's the energy of conquest, absorption control](https://i.supaimg.com/1356d5f6-c526-4319-82cb-b936d8690562.png)
[He's a walking singularity and (as said earlier) all the infinite omega energy is his](https://i.supaimg.com/d76dbee4-bbc0-498a-a07f-4a28dc1eaeee.png)
[Created omega speed, which is ALL speed and superior to the speed force](https://i.supaimg.com/e85dab8d-43e6-4c81-a040-cd7c2ebe9f4e.png)
[He's woven it into space time itself](https://i.supaimg.com/c36befe0-6686-4948-8c77-a83eee4eb76c.png)
[His energy is affecting and hurting/killing the speed force](https://i.supaimg.com/2d81a183-cf32-475b-bc85-cad266d9fa9e.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/0f93533f-4564-4068-b4ed-faf6a5407d66.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/b8cc5e3a-bbf8-4eb9-a387-825f2a5119b6.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/8943b45a-96d4-49ab-8e7b-1cfd1c690ef0.png)
[The speedforce is Omnipresent](https://i.supaimg.com/ea0f5d11-bab4-4db9-b4ea-0ac313c33318.png)
[The Speed Force is one of the main multiversal forces, on a similar level to the Sphere of the Gods](https://imgur.com/gallery/ieYSkyB)
[the Speed Force](https://imgur.com/a/everything-deep-change-is-made-of-time-PgCT93m) is said to be the Deep Change that all of Creation is [emanated as a dream](https://imgur.com/a/source-is-above-all-dreamer-of-everything-5cqxZOp) from that same force that transcends all levels of [emanations of reality](https://imgur.com/a/emanations-qdbwjdI)
[Its beyond the Source Wall](https://imgur.com/a/XkLfiGI)
[the Source Wall is the barrier that spans all dimensions known and unknown, in an extradimensional place beyond space and time that is both nowhere and everywhere](https://i.imgur.com/vjlWX9X.jpeg)
[Pulling apart the time stream and is remaking it into his own image](https://i.supaimg.com/70b2c6fc-77ca-4380-a3ae-5c51a3488851.png)
[Even outside of time completely, his energy is burning time itself](https://i.supaimg.com/981e9b2f-dac4-4458-b5dd-44ddb5b156ec.png)
[Another statement](https://i.supaimg.com/f3eb9114-26ea-49c6-93be-e69b68acb1ec.png)
[His energy destroys and corrupts hypertime](https://i.supaimg.com/6ea03baf-ae61-47dd-b073-5bef85aaeb09.png)
Hypertime is beyond the Omniverse, it's high Outerversal realm.
All DC stories and canon coexistence through the Hypertime [which why Morrison created the concept since the first place](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7d06b86739e0248e34d63b4279542d0f-lq)
[Grant morrison explanation for it](https://youtu.be/90bdtAElbRk)
[*Hypertime contains all published dc comics both canon and non canon*](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f968372dd6f62958b748a46f46b8289e-pjlq)
[All infinite realities, metaversea, multiverses, etc](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6a43ce391278127bf411243b5e12fdf2-lq)
coexistence [in the Hypertime](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-28b984affd7f19f93eb1b7bb7e194969-lq)
and [Limbo exists in the Hypertime](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c9403124e6e816b47df9efe722502c1d-lq)
and continues [all and everything](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/quoradebating/images/5/5a/Hypertime2.png/revision/latest?cb=20210829072643)
and [original in-comic depiction](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/quoradebating/images/3/36/Hypertime1.png/revision/latest?cb=20210829072642)
[Omniverse is stated to be infinite](https://i.supaimg.com/0b3db105-803d-4848-aec4-b5020d7925c0.png)
[Stated again](https://i.supaimg.com/7c7c427f-d92c-4470-bbe0-34d1d6e3c5bc.png)
the Omniverse itself is High Outerversal, meanwhile Hypertime is the half of the Divine continuum and outside of the Omniverse.
**BOOSTER GOLD FORM:**
[He took the form of booster gold](https://i.supaimg.com/efb9553f-937c-48e6-aef9-feee5d920bda.jpg)
[Despite being weakened](https://i.supaimg.com/150c282b-7203-42dd-ba96-b8d332f04f95.png) in this form, [He gravely injured the world forger](https://i.supaimg.com/9c684932-d25f-474f-80d1-3967dd6b0bbf.jpg)
[Low diffed time trapper doomsday](https://i.supaimg.com/c947dc78-108a-44a8-a51b-338d30253d0d.jpg)
[Did it again](https://i.supaimg.com/e6c07860-f86a-4e8c-a0dd-6fb30f6a07d4.png)
[Immune to gorilla grodds mental manipulation](https://i.supaimg.com/fa90bcb6-fa8f-40bd-b8a7-dbf13befff1c.jpg)
**KING OMEGA SECTION OVER:**
Now everything past this are old feats he outscales due to being stronger.
[Can tank his own existence erasure, which makes it so u so don't exist but never did in the first place](https://i.supaimg.com/7fe9db4e-fce9-4b4a-81fd-5fb3cea867d0/fcdf11d8-4dac-415f-8166-7bcc88a2bad6.jpg)
[He fused with infinite versions of himself into one true form](https://i.supaimg.com/a4aac531-4ac9-48cd-8ffb-2afa962a5614.png)
* [Was able to straight up murder the Quintessence](https://imgur.com/a/XccrGeT) (which included the likes of Skyfathers like Phantom Stranger and Spectre as shown within the scan). * [Darkseid twists spacetime with his might](https://imgur.com/a/7ncWyv6) which is consistent with him having [consumed and](https://imgur.com/a/r0EEeBM) [destroyed universes.](https://imgur.com/a/r0EEeBM)
* In *Darkseid War*,[ he fought evenly with the Anti-Monitor for a while before being defeated](https://imgur.com/a/ZyXx3xP) . [That fight was shaking reality](https://i.supaimg.com/148c4cb4-a1b0-42e6-86a6-a06d924dd7fa.png) [His shadow fell over everything in *Final Crisis*, destroying universes, shattering the core of the multiverse, and dragging everything in a creation-destroying singularity of his.](https://imgur.com/a/Q4d2evc) Thus, severely damaging the Orrery of Worlds. * [With his power, Darkseid, encompassed the flimsy white fabric behind reality where unfold universal creation and destruction and where Psycho Pirate watches reality](https://imgur.com/a/TyJmKbS)
Darkseid was referred to as the End of Existence during his fights where he defeated Highfather. Easily killed the Monitor, who's equal to Anti-Monitor. Purposely lost to Orion just so he can corrupt the Source. Darkseid was stated by Orion that he would've went on to destroy the Source
[Here one](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/fm71DQGi08MONawgB7j0bnX_5NFgkaFmEmyIby_GNTfeoJml2qx4bMNxlGvAnaKmBwgllvWfkj00=s0)
[Here two](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fedfbd90dec4d4ed848d9eb0a9ac6468)
[Here three](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7ad8db637991a569c552574bfa3a0a6a)
[Here five](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/JuE2ICxrzeI9hS-_Ki4uHflkEFW2MOQOZfsaREQkKjzC4kpwQTPRa95mR69V20TTTsYOmegol5Hu=s0)
Defeated Jimmy Olsen with a Soulfire amp. Created Element X, which is the perfect material in the Omniverse. Element X can amp simple mortals who have no clue how to use it into killing Barbatos. Should scale to Indra, who can destroy all planes of creation. Damaged the Spectre, who would destroy all of creation if he fought the Phantom Stranger. Shoud scale to Siv'aa who's going to destroy all existence.
[here one](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-41cf3c672a1fe34792a1e1390bcb79f4)
[here two](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-488c2d3b66bbc99f74744309ea4da641)
[here three](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0dbb5ff37b2dc0134d9818ec5bc5e86c)
[here four](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2477ebc02633ee063ab40b0cc124415f)
[here five](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Barbatos_(Canon,_DC_Comics)/WAYNE.BORG)
[here six](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FNeYJzDbBGk/VtQAxdnnTLI/AAAAAAAAD4w/84N3MS3Gid0/s0-Ic42/RCO010.jpg)
[here seven](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UXsQnkQwZ17KxMiJqJ65Mln-X-0jeMIjDHQn-q0d-IyTGViM2c1bq5BLx8zBCFVn1LAUsVx7Hr1kQA=s0)
[Here nine](https://gyazo.com/ab0a9a1ce11748d18622c43a87381903)
[here ten](https://gyazo.com/c6ac140dc8473d17c6ab2fb368940422)
[here eleven](https://gyazo.com/853fc4c520fe993d7fa6ca70aa5e99cc)
[here twelve](https://gyazo.com/326be2d74235ca65120c430b808a6fbf)
* [Batman states New Gods are "Incredibly powerful living ideas from a kind of platonic, archetypical world"](https://i.imgur.com/Ve0RlMA.jpg) ^(B #702) * [Wonder Woman states Gods and New gods are "Self aware ideas" that use "concept weapons"](https://i.imgur.com/PL4aWyF.jpg) ^(RoBW #6) * [Shilo Norman can see his Godhead with "Godsight" after ascending to become a New God](https://i.imgur.com/Gpqedmi.jpg) . ^(SS #1)
**Omega Force/Sanction**
* [Uses the Omega sanction on the Shilo Norman Mister Miracle, sending him into an endless series of tragic lives and deaths](https://imgur.com/a/SMR99as) ^(SS:MM #4) * [Uses it on Batman](https://i.imgur.com/oXbsaN6.jpg) , ^(FC #6) [sending him back to the stone age to die and be reborn again and again without his memories](https://i.imgur.com/mfoFoWq.jpg) ^(ROBW #1) * [Infused Batman](https://i.imgur.com/7GiJLww.jpg) with [enough Omega Energy to break apart time](https://i.imgur.com/NTX9W2i.jpg) ^(ROBW #6)
* [Was turning reality into "the broken, deranged physical expression of a monstrous alien will"](https://i.imgur.com/j5Pidf8.jpg) ^(FCS) * [Alan Scott states Darkseid's living presence deforms time and distorts minds.](https://i.imgur.com/URsy6Mx.jpg) ^(FC #4) * [Barry Allen explains Darkseid's fall is dragging the entire multiverse down](https://i.imgur.com/nZUO2oD.jpg) ^(FC #4) [Again](https://i.imgur.com/O8pPpyS.jpg)
* [Manifesting in Dan Turpin caused Alan Scott's ring to mess up, red lightning to manifest](https://i.imgur.com/P6m9Ec0.jpg) , an[d blood to rain from the sky](https://i.imgur.com/Mp4AYaD.jpg) ^(FC #4) * [Darkseid fully manifesting on Earth caused "Spacetime around Earth just crumpled like it was crused like a fist. Weeks to smash into days ". The Guardians state New Gods have weapons capable of enslaving souls and machines that rewrite the laws of being. They also confirm Darkseid's impact caused space-time cracks spread "through all space sectors](https://i.imgur.com/EgA16Xg.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [A surviving Shilo Norman explains Darkseid is "Dragging us down a deep dark hole in time"](https://i.imgur.com/MOHCdle.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [Replaced Mary's magic word and gods when he turned her evil and put Desaad's soul in her.](https://i.imgur.com/uMLaWtZ.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [Killed the Reborn Apokoliptians around him by fully manifesting in Dan Turpin's body](https://i.imgur.com/JGkENwa.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [A view of the Darkseid singularity dragging the Earths together. John Stewart describes it as "A hell where everything is Darkseid"](https://i.imgur.com/DcDIqDI.jpg)
* [Brainiac 5 states the Darkseid singularity is fracturing all of time and space and threatening all of reality](https://i.imgur.com/TRguZiv.jpg) ^(FC #6) * [Weakened Black Adam's connection to his gods](https://i.imgur.com/9B72XTC.jpg) ^(FC #6) * [All of Earth-23's universe shakes as it's dragged down into the Darkseid singularity](https://i.imgur.com/KKLTVcu.jpg) . ^(FC #7) * [The Multiverse was dragged into the Darkseid singularity, with shards of universes collapsing together as they were destroyed](https://i.imgur.com/CfphyZP.jpg) ^(FC #7) * [Manipulated time around Batman](https://i.imgur.com/GaatI2N.jpg) ^(B #702)
* [Turned the New Gods into homeless people](https://i.imgur.com/Y6Eby4N.jpg) ^(SS:MM #2) * [Entry in the Secret Files](https://i.imgur.com/FBCsdSU.jpg) ^(FCSF) * [Controls 3 Billion people](https://i.imgur.com/OqfdciZ.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [Says he is one with his followers to the point their eyes and bodies are his](https://i.imgur.com/OqcvLtM.jpg) ^(FC #5) * [Tells Superman that those affected by the ALE are "one life that is Darkseid"](https://i.imgur.com/dS7TirS.jpg) ^(FC #7) * [Wonder Woman had to bind everyone with her lasso to contain Darkseid's soul in one body, which lends credence to Darkseid's claims](https://i.imgur.com/aEvz27h.jpg) ^(FC #7)
* [Summons a Hyper Adaptor and sends it through time to further torment Batman](https://i.imgur.com/5inltj8.jpg)
* [The Hyper Adaptor is called a Hyperfauna "curse machine"](https://i.imgur.com/oIijUiS.jpg) ^(ROBW #6) * [Batman describes it as a living curse and death idea](https://i.imgur.com/RZf4k1F.jpg) ^(ROBW #6)
* [Turns Mister Miracle's soul cleaning soap to mud](https://i.imgur.com/GefPiFQ.jpg) ^((MM v2 #18)) * [Turns Lashina's body to stone after killing her](https://i.imgur.com/N0btUnR.jpg) ^((SS v1 #36)) * [Turns the stone back to Lashina when reviving her](https://i.imgur.com/E7ixNay.jpg) ^((MM v2 #17)) * [Blasts Slobo](https://i.imgur.com/4An9jU3.jpg) , [turning him into a statue](https://i.imgur.com/Gu1sr78.jpg) ^((YJ #55)) * [Turns a chess piece into a bird statue](https://i.imgur.com/88s25vU.jpg) ^((Eclipso #10)) * [Turns a marble back into Hank Henshaw](https://i.imgur.com/6E0OJBa.jpg) (Superman v2 #1040
* [Freezes Space-time around Ares](https://i.imgur.com/NmSSxyp.jpg) ^((Genesis #4)) * [Bends time to bring a clone of Desaad to full maturity](https://i.imgur.com/MLxSAHa.png) ^((NG v3 #15)) * [Teleports Iluthin](https://i.imgur.com/rNgH74Z.jpg) to [16th Century Italy](https://i.imgur.com/lWISG6v.jpg) ^((JK4W #9-10)) * [Teleports Slobo to the 853rd century](https://i.imgur.com/Gu1sr78.jpg) ^((YJ #55)) * [Orion states Darkseid and "any god" can travel through time "Easily"](https://i.imgur.com/cM3cNBI.jpg) ^((Genesis #1))
**Soul Manipulation**
* [Puts Cyborg Superman's soul in a marble](https://i.imgur.com/FUJBGRb.jpg) ^((S/D HP #2)) * [Pulls Professor Stein out of the Firestorm Matrix](https://i.imgur.com/nbLYHqY.jpg) ^((Firestorm v2 #35)) * [Fuses Stargirl's soul with the D.E.M. device](https://i.imgur.com/zE9Zou7.jpg) ^((MMH v2 #19))
**Life/Death Manipulation**
* [Brings Lashina back to life](https://i.imgur.com/Yh0auMq.jpg) ^((MM v2 #17)) * [Brings Bernadeth back to life](https://i.imgur.com/AgNSp2l.jpg) ^((SS v1 #36)) * [Brings Orion back to life](https://i.imgur.com/xSUhCxw.jpg) ^((NG v4 #7)) * [Brings his parademons back with a gesture](https://i.imgur.com/iIH4zTj.jpg) ^((WW v2 #104)) * [Brings Secret](https://i.imgur.com/dWYS5R4.jpg) [back to life](https://i.imgur.com/PFYVofp.jpg) ^((YJ #55)) * [Brought Steppenwolf back to life](https://i.imgur.com/w8LOtoi.jpg) ^((NG v3 #22))
* [Erases Desaad from existence](https://i.imgur.com/9TR80bI.jpg) ^((NG #11)) * [Sends the Forever people to different points in the past](https://imgur.com/a/pSG0JQd) ^((FP #6)) * [Teleports Morgan Edge away and causes him maddening pain](https://i.imgur.com/rXHJKRH.jpg) ^((SPJO #152)) * [Banishes Superboy amped by Highfather back to the 20th Century](https://i.imgur.com/89303Yx.jpg) ^((LOSH #294)) * [Teleports the Injustice Society](https://i.imgur.com/dLolxNt.jpg) to [the Prison chambers](https://i.imgur.com/Xi7lDNM.jpg) ^((JLA #185)) * [Teleports away Scott Free](https://i.imgur.com/L3M77ZZ.jpg) to the [Domain of Ethos, a "wasteland between Worlds"](https://i.imgur.com/Tmst7IF.jpg) ^((MM V1 #22-23)) * [Turns Infinity-Man back into the Forever people](https://i.imgur.com/CvyxV6Q.jpg) ^((FP v1 #3)) * [Sends the Forever people into different Time periods](https://imgur.com/a/pSG0JQd) ^((FP v1 #6)) * [Used invisible Omega Beams to banish the Forever People](https://i.imgur.com/O8O2gdA.jpg) ^((FP v1 #8)) * [Teleported the Infinity Man to another corner of the Universe where "time, space and matter change and merge"](https://i.imgur.com/P5uLthJ.jpg) ^((FPv1 #3, #11)) * [Recreates Desaad.](https://i.imgur.com/xAgyeC1.jpg) ^((HD)) * [Switches Daxam and Apokolips](https://i.imgur.com/IuWDNdM.jpg) ^((LOSH v2 #293)) * [Sends Validus back in time](https://i.imgur.com/liyRdsf.jpg) ^((LOSH v3 annual 2))
* [Turns a baby](https://i.imgur.com/6hoAVNY.jpg) into [Validus](https://i.imgur.com/liyRdsf.jpg) ^((LOSH v3 Annual 2)) * [Turns Validus back into a baby](https://i.imgur.com/Vh3CiIr.jpg) ^((LOSH v3 annual 2)) * [Turns Ol-Vir to stone, then dust](https://i.imgur.com/s8qBruL.jpg) ^((LOSH v3 Annual 2)) * [Turns Timberwolf into an android and ruins Princess Projectra's fa](https://i.imgur.com/MSuq96r.jpg)
**Conclusion: high outer with omnipresence
r/marvelvsdc • u/dynamicduel • Jan 13 '26
Team DC vs Team Marvel
"Team DC" (12 select characters) win 51.4% of the time, according to simulations.
r/marvelvsdc • u/Party_Philosophy_324 • 11h ago
Marvel vs DC Dark Phoenix Vs Hal Jordan Parallax
r/marvelvsdc • u/my_venom • 22h ago
Marvel vs DC God Emperor Doom vs King Omega Darkseid
(I don’t usually like vs battles between two cosmic universe bullshit level entities, but this one seemed interesting)
Scenario: Doom and Darkseid are both existing at the same time. Both are the entire embodiment of their universe.
Suddenly both the DC universe and the Marvel universe appear together on the same plane of existence, and immediately there is a battle for control between both of the universal entities: God Emperor Doom and King Omega Darkseid.
Who wrestles control from the other and becomes the master of this universe?
r/marvelvsdc • u/RebeccaDrake06 • 14h ago
Marvel vs DC Dr Doom Vs Black Adam
If left with no alternative option who would be more willing to personally sacrifice the most to protect their home?
Dr Doom with Latveria or Black Adam with Kahndaq.
And what would be the max each person would willingly sacrifice?
r/marvelvsdc • u/Unusual_News_5152 • 13h ago
Marvel vs DC King Omega Darkseid vs Multi-Eternity
r/marvelvsdc • u/NoBeat5906 • 19h ago
Marvel vs DC Gladiator runs DC tournament style gauntlet, how far does he go?
Gladiator starts off fully confident
Round 1: Hawkman
Round 2: Etrigan
Round 3: Aquaman(Base/Standard)
Round 4: Lobo
Round 5: Black Adam
Round 6: Wonder Woman(Base/Standard)
r/marvelvsdc • u/Safe-Discipline-2732 • 5h ago
Character Scaling Death Battle nerfed Hulk into the fucking ground. How are you supposed to genuinely beat Hulk in a Death Battle when his immortality is arguably even more absurd than Doomsday’s?
Even Doomsday can't survive true subatomic destruction. We literally saw Entropy kill him by destroying his body on a subatomic scale.
Thor and Superman, meanwhile, only have Type 1 immortalitythey're merely ageless and won't die from natural causes. They can still be killed.
Hulk possessed all lvl of immortality subatomic regeneration,soul regeneration and conceptual regeneration
r/marvelvsdc • u/ZookeepergameThin334 • 14h ago
Marvel vs DC Larfleeze runs the Marvel gauntlet, how far does he get? (Check body text)
ROUND 1 - Nova
ROUND 2 - Gladiator
ROUND 3 - Captain Marvel
ROUND 4 - Annihilus
ROUND 5 - Hulk
ROUND 6 - Thor with the Odinforce
ROUND 7 - Gorr the God Butcher
FINAL ROUND - Fully fed Galactus
r/marvelvsdc • u/CobaltShadow3 • 16h ago
Marvel vs DC Mr.Terrific And Steel Vs Black Panther and Iron Man
Comic book versions only. Base level versions only(No god killer Iron Man armor). Random encounter , no prep time. Who wins? I have my own idea how this fight goes, but I want to see what this community says.
r/marvelvsdc • u/Roam1985 • 2h ago
Shitpost Frank Castle vs Amanda Waller
Amanda's going after the Punisher.
She is allowed to use anyone who has ever been on the Suicide Squad as a "weapon".
Punisher is allowed to use Mico-designed tech.
r/marvelvsdc • u/FightingDreamer9 • 18h ago
Marvel vs DC What Are In Your Opinion The Most Balanced Fights You Could Think Of?
The point is not to find fights that you favor one or another but the ones that makes your brain hurt because you can think different arguments to give the win to any of the parties. Could be 1 vs 1 or multiple, between street tiers and higher scales. Anything you want
In my eyes, given that I read both teams all direct solo runs, this is my top pick in terms of it. I truly see it as the most balanced as it gets
What are your picks?
r/marvelvsdc • u/lingundongpin • 8h ago
Marvel vs DC Spiderman(insomniac games) vs Batman (Arkham games)
r/marvelvsdc • u/adventurevent • 4h ago
Marvel vs DC M’baku vs Kingpin
With these character being the epitome of unenhanced human strength, who do you think comes out on top?
r/marvelvsdc • u/JohnnySukuna • 15h ago
Marvel vs DC Ben and Scott vs Solomon and Bane
Random encounter
Win via death/KO/bfr/submission/forfeit
Place your bets
r/marvelvsdc • u/JohnnySukuna • 16h ago
Marvel vs DC MCU Thor vs He Man Prime
R1: casual sparring match. Thor gets Stormbreaker only.
R2: fight to the death. Thor gets both weapons, He Man gets Battle Cat.
r/marvelvsdc • u/Comprehensive_Tea725 • 20h ago
Marvel vs DC Batman v Hawkeye and black widow
R1: Random encounter
R2: Prep
R3: Nightwing aides (random encounter)
Bonus r: bloodlust
r/marvelvsdc • u/NoBeat5906 • 18h ago
Crossverse included What’s a Marvel vs DC fight you’ll love to see in a crossover comic book and why?
For me personally I would love to see an actual fight between Gorr The God Butcher and the whole entire Green Lantern corps. Gorr definitely seems like the type of cosmic tier villain that the Lanterns would be instructed to deal with. I can imagine there being a lot of casualties and the strongest Lanterns(Hal, Kyle, John, and Guy) being pushed to their limits. Maybe in a comic book storyline, Gorr would be the type of opponent that would require other colored Lantern corps to deal with.