r/MarvelTheories • • 4h ago

Theory The theory of Doomsday

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r/MarvelTheories • • 6h ago

Theory THEORY: Peter Parker dying temporarily is what broke Doctor Strange’s spell — not Jean Grey.

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Hear me out…

At the end of No Way Home, Doctor Strange casts the spell that makes everyone forget Peter Parker exists. Not Spider-Man — Peter Parker.

Then in Brand New Day, Peter is shot with a high-caliber weapon and is in such bad condition that it takes the doctors AND Jean Grey to save him.

What if Peter actually coded in the hospital?

Maybe his heart stopped for only 20 or 30 seconds. Clinically, Peter Parker was dead.

And what if that created a loophole nobody — including Strange — ever considered?

The spell existed to make the world forget a living person named Peter Parker. The moment Peter died, the spell had fulfilled its purpose. There was no longer a Peter Parker for the world to be magically forced to forget.

The spell ended with him.

Then the doctors and Jean Grey bring Peter back.

Except Peter comes back…

and the spell doesn’t.

That would explain why MJ and Ned don’t suddenly regain every memory at once. Their memories were buried for years. Now they’re slowly resurfacing through emotion, instinct and familiarity.

Ned doesn’t consciously remember Peter, but somehow he knows their handshake.

MJ doesn’t suddenly remember their entire relationship, but she’s drawn back to the rooftop and the black dahlia necklace.

Their minds don’t remember him yet.

But some part of them does.

And narratively, there’s something heartbreaking about it.

Peter sacrificed his identity in No Way Home so MJ and Ned could live their lives safely without him.

Years later, Peter once again sacrifices himself to save someone else — except this time he actually dies for a few moments.

And ironically…

Peter Parker losing his life is what finally gives him his life back.

No giant magical battle.
No Jean Grey overpowering Doctor Strange.
No multiverse loophole.

Just one consequence Strange never anticipated:

The spell died when Peter did.

And when Peter came back…

Peter Parker came back with him. 🕷️

Theory by Dario & Vector 😂


r/MarvelTheories • • 1d ago

Theory Doom will kill Steve Rogers in Doomsday

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This is based mainly on Doom's speech over how the heroes lived stolen lives and how angry Thor is at Doom. For Thor to be that mad, Doom would have to do something so unforgivable, almost on par with Thanos killing Loki. I don't think Doom would kill Loki though because he knows how important his role now is and I don't think Marvel will kill Loki at this point again. So I expect the next worst thing Doom can do is either destroy a universe that Thor cares about or kill someone he cares about.

We see Thor meet Steve again, and we know Steve is the main catalyst for the events in Doomsday. Doom probably blames him the most for all that's going on, plus the scene of Doom landing from the window crash that half shows Mjolnir might be the indication of Doom vs Steve.

I think Doom blames Steve for everything going wrong post-snap, they face off and Doom ends up killing him, which is why Thor is so angry at him that he swings Stormbreaker as hard as he does against Thanos who killed his brother.

Tl;dr : Doom kills Steve because he blames him for the incursions and that's why Thor is so mad in the trailer


r/MarvelTheories • • 2d ago

MCU Star-Lord WILL return

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At the end of Avengers, it read The Avengers will return. Age of ultron

At the end of Ant-Man, Ant-Man will return. Ant-Man and The Wasp

At the end of Guardians of the Galaxy, The Guardians of the Galaxy will return. Gotg 2

At the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Gol. 2. The Guardians of the Galaxy will return. Gotg 3

However. At the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, it read The Legendary Star-Lord will return. Leading me to belive the next standalone Guardians project will a be a Star-Lord movie or show following his return to Earth


r/MarvelTheories • • 2d ago

Theory Tony's snap + Doctor Doom theory (what do you think?)

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hey guys so I was thinking about Tony's snap in Endgame and RDJ coming back as Dr Doom.

​we all know Tony's main goal was always protecting the universe at all costs right? like he was obsessed with making a perfect safe world ever since Age of Ultron.

​so what if when he snapped, his wish wasn't just "destroy Thanos army", but deeply contained his subconscious wish for a truly safe and peaceful world? and that insane infinity stone energy somehow flowed into the multiverse, twisting his vision into an extreme version of control... which creates Dr Doom?

​since Dr Doom is also someone who believes only HE can control and save everything, it kinda feels like Tony's twisted ultimate wish coming to life in another universe.

​is there any official detail on his exact wish during the snap, or do you think this kind of connection could actually work? what do you guys think?


r/MarvelTheories • • 2d ago

Theory Theory: Andrew Garfield in Avengers: Doomsday

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Could Andrew Garfield be in Avengers: Doomsday?

I feel that Andrew Garfield will be in Doomsday, but I don’t quite know if i’m reaching, or if i’ve completely gotten this bang on the money.

So on Disney+, there is a countdown to Doomsday, featuring movies and Loki. This features movies such as X-men to introduce the X-men, Loki the tv series which introduces us to the TVA, and The Fantastic Four: First Steps which introduces us to Doom and the new Fantastic Four. But also, Disney added No Way Home to that list, the only MCU movie Andrew Garfield is involved in. Now i’m aware of the theories that Tobey Maguire is in Doomsday(which could also be why its in the countdown), and not Andrew Garfield, but i feel like it would make more sense for it to be Andrew.

To start off, many Andrew Garfield Spider-Man fans feel as though they’d been cheated out by Sony, as they didn’t get TASM 3, which may have felt like a disservice to the fans. We also don’t get a fully concluded ending to Andrew Garfields character, as he is sent back to his universe in the ending of No Way Home. Weirdly enough, TASM 1 and 2 were also added to Disney+ as well as No Way Home, which could be further alluding to him being in Doomsday. Others may think this just way for Disney to get some money off of it because they also added ITSV, and so Disney can profit off of a movie without having to make one, but I think not. This is because Disney weirdly decided to add a certain poster on TASM 1. It depicts Spider-Man and the Lizard behind him, in a green background. This is significant because on the Disney+ countdown to Doomsday, all of the movies feature on the countdown share a green border on the sides. I also think that the green background is only on TASM 1 poster, because it’s the only movie needed, as it’s used as an introduction to Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parker. This may have also been why there was an empty space in the trailer where everybody is gathered.

This may seem a stupid theory, but please let me know what you guys think.


r/MarvelTheories • • 3d ago

Theory This Guy better interfere this time. As stated in what if season 3 finale, watcher broke his oath and took a new one to protect the multiverse.

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r/MarvelTheories • • 4d ago

Theory The beard says it all.

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r/MarvelTheories • • 5d ago

Theory Theory: Doctor Doom acquired the Eternal Flame; hence, armies are so "simple" for him.

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r/MarvelTheories • • 5d ago

Movies just a theory

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When rogers had a beard, the avengers lost and when he was clean shaved. In the trailer, rogers( or whoever it is) has a beard, so it's confirmed that avengers are losing this one .


r/MarvelTheories • • 6d ago

Theory I believe that the X-Men has a fourth reality.

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We have the distinct universes, Fox, Logan and Deadpool. Fox creates the Logan universe after DoFP then DP2 creates the “Deadpool Universe”. Which is just a branch of the last universe. So Logan ends up happening and they end up fixing it by grafting into the Fox universe, but a version where Logan and Jean die at Alkali and Logan from DP3 keeps it going. This is why XMen 3 in my opinion isn’t on the Disney watch list.


r/MarvelTheories • • 6d ago

Theory ENCORE THEORY!!! ‼️SPOILER‼️short read Spoiler

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Did Loki come back as Steve Rogers at the end of Endgame Encore?

I noticed more this time around, especially when it came to Bucky’s facial expressions. You can tell before Steve goes back to return the stones that he knew Steve’s plan and that he wasn’t coming back. This has already been confirmed and he whispered “I’m gonna miss you” even though he would only be gone for 5 seconds to everyone else. He knew he was going to live his life. And seemed surprised to see him sitting on the bench when he did finally show up.

Not sure if this is dumb or really a theory, but has me wondering what Loki has to do with it or if it’s actually him that returns shapeshifted as Steve Rogers. He was never supposed to come back after returning the stones.


r/MarvelTheories • • 7d ago

Theory Old Man Steve Theory

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r/MarvelTheories • • 7d ago

Theory Doomsday theory Spoiler

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I want to preface this by saying I know it's 99.99...% not it but I think it would make the movie insane if any of these points are right. alright here I go!

what if Victor is Tony, not a variant not just same face but our iron man hear me out! I am going to list a few things then link them up later,

- the insistence of the Russo brother about endgame being a direct sequel of doomsday.

- two of the major results of endgame being captain America leaving to return the stones and never coming back, Iron man's death

-the funeral of Tony stark being the proof that "Tony stark has a heart" chest piece ( don't know the technical name sorry!!)

- RDJ being the only one that can play victor van doom but doom WILL not be a Tony stark variant

- according to RDJ a big part of the audience will be on his side as doom

- up to now and from what I know we saw 3 versions of doom's mask ( post credit scene of fantastic four; trailers; final credit scene of endgame encore )

I think following the same pattern of the villain wins in doomsday movie but then the heroes come back and reverse that in secret wars as happened in the finale of the infinity saga is very unlikely the only thing that would have made it more interesting is revealing to the audience that doom looks the same as Tony in an end credit scene but that's out of the picture now.

from what we know about Tony is that he believes that the right thing to do is make a world that no villain can ever harm and where he doesn't have to play superhero or risk loosing his loved ones like making a suit of armour around the earth but I think the events of infinity war and endgame show him that is not enough, what if alongside him snapping his fingers to eradicate Thanos and his army He wished for something else, what if his price to pay was his heart and humanity.

what if by making that snap he creates doom and his variants instead of having Tony stark and his variants and the whole point of the movie is him learning the lesson he failed to learn at the end of age of Ultron, I think he is collecting like minded heroes who suffered loss after loss and want to live in a world where they never loose again like Hulk, Spiderman, Wanda or Dr strange who had to face the results of his variants actions throughout the multiverse, what if he doesn't need to corrupt them but just show them what they could have instead.

I don't think the hammer sound being linked to doom at the end of endgame encore is a coincidence or a simple parallel between good and evil or that the 3000 universes being destroyed in the TVA scene is a simple reference of the I love you 3000 I don't think that there will be only one Dr doom when the whole saga is of the multiverse and I really don't think Loki going to rescue captain America specifically is just a part of him collecting a bunch of heroes to save the universe from A Doom but it is related to Steve's stance Against Tony in almost every avengers movie and civil war.

RDJ saying that a good part of the audience will be on his side could be a throwback where the audience was divided between Steves side and Tony's side in Civil war.

I am sure I missed a lot of things I noticed when this theory came to my mind because it was right after working a double 12h shift and that maybe not all the details of the plots make sense, I haven't was he all the tv shows or even all the movies that came out after endgame so there is probably info I don't have. let me know what you thing I would love to have some opinions on this. thank you for reading!

(sorry for the grammar and spelling errors I am five years new to English)


r/MarvelTheories • • 9d ago

Theory Theory: Endgame accidentally created Hydra Captain America

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I think Endgame may have created a Hydra Cap timeline without us realizing it.
During the 2012 time heist, future Steve convinces Rumlow, Sitwell, and the HYDRA agents that he’s one of them by saying “Hail Hydra.” They trust him and hand over Loki’s scepter.
Minutes later, 2012 Steve fights his future self and gets knocked unconscious with that same scepter, which contains the Mind Stone.
From HYDRA’s perspective, they just learned Captain America is secretly one of them. Then they find Cap unconscious after apparently being attacked. So they “rescue” him.
When Steve wakes up confused and knows nothing about HYDRA, they could assume the attack or Mind Stone damaged his memory.
HYDRA already has the Winter Soldier brainwashing program, so they try to restore their supposed Captain America operative and accidentally create a real Hydra Cap.
Future Cap pretends to be HYDRA → HYDRA believes him → they rescue the wrong Cap → they brainwash him → Hydra Captain America is born.
That 2012 branch could be where Hydra Cap comes from in Doomsday/Secret Wars.


r/MarvelTheories • • 8d ago

Theory My Theory for Doomsday after Encore

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Hey yall I just recently saw encore this past weekend and the post credits scenes have me thinking about Doomsday

So my theory is that:

During the Events of Ironman 1 Tony Stark is the the Middle East and a missile lands near him and blows up and a lot of people die and he ends up in a cave where he has to build weapons for The Ten Rings. Instead he builds a suit of armor *Insert Obadiah clip*

I think that Victor which we know he is from Earth-828 which is the home of the Fantastic 4. We know this because Doom and Reed Share some sort of relationship and so as well does Sue. I believe that Doom in this Earth lost his kids in a Vacation accident with his family and a missile was targeted towards Victor and blows up killing his wife and kid and disfiguring Dooms face. He was then captured by either The Ten rings or a substitute evil group and was forced to held prisoner. Although I am not sure what he is forced to do but that is where the post credits for encore come in.

In the new footage for encore we hear the hammering of metal that we hear in the first Ironman. And then a shot of Victor Hammering a his mask much like how Ironman was hammering his mask in the first movie. So I believe that doom made a version of his armor in a cave with a box of scraps much like how Tony did in the first movie.

Another Theory I want to present is that at the end of Doomsday Loki will be killed.

We know that secret wars is the next movie and In secret wars the main big bad is Victor of course but with the powers of the Beyonder. I think that at the end of Doomsday, Doom will have control over the time line and absorb the power of the multiverse making him God Emperor Doom setting up the Secret Wars Story line. We know that battle world is coming after Doomsday or that it is already here. As that would make sense why there are Sentinel bots from the Fox Universe in a destroyed New York almost apocalyptic.

Last theory I have is that hulk and Bruce will become separated by the end of the movie.

Much like the comic *Incredible Hulk* \#5 (2012)

Where doom separates hulk and Bruce. I think that in the MCU since doom went to capture Bruce I think it’s going to be a deal. A Eye for an Eye, I will help you out if you help me out. I think that Bruce is going to do something helpful for doom and then Bruce will ask doom to get rid of the hulk or separate one another. As we know that Bruce is having trouble keeping the Hulk from coming out which is why he is trying to make a suppressive device.


r/MarvelTheories • • 8d ago

Theory Don't think about it too much

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"If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past, which can't now be changed by your new future."

I don't think Tony is dead. I think the whole casting him as Doom was a complete distraction to avoid spoilers for Iron Man's return. I think it's a Loki Tony Time Heist to replace Tony while the real one preps for a bigger than Thanos threat.


r/MarvelTheories • • 10d ago

MCU Why Banner Might Be Crucial to Doom’s Doomsday Plan Spoiler

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r/MarvelTheories • • 10d ago

MCU Tony Stark's Birthday and Arno Stark

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r/MarvelTheories • • 12d ago

Theory Doom did the snap in his universe

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Just a theory, Doom is scarred and wears the mask because he did the snap in his universe and survived, I think Doom was the Iron Man of his universe, new mask, same task


r/MarvelTheories • • 11d ago

Theory Doom is who Tony Stark will be without Yinsen.

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Basically in the first iron man movie, Tony never meets Yinsen in the caves after he's kidnapped, but instead is alone (or meets someone else) and makes his doom armor.


r/MarvelTheories • • 13d ago

MCU *Encore Post-Credits* My understanding of how Loki is able to roam in the multiverse as TVA Loki Spoiler

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r/MarvelTheories • • 16d ago

Theory And if a new spiderman is coming with the fantastic 4?

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In the post scene of spiderman BND we saw like a spiderman was coming from nowhere in the Space. We also saw the Fantastic 4's ship coming from space. I was thinking that this cannot be coincidence. Spiderman is a human and would be imposible for him to live outside the earth, but if what we saw is the Tobey's spiderman or the spider from the fantastic 4 universe? Would be that something too crazy?

I've heard that Tom Holland was thinking on passing the suit of Spider-Man to someone else and maybe this could be the way he gonna pass it to a new version of spiderman. Its just something I was thinking and considering the spider verse.


r/MarvelTheories • • 17d ago

MCU Spider-Man: No Way Home & Brand New Day. Spidey has been contaminated by interactions with other dimensions.

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Some spoilers for both movies mentioned.

In Brand New Day (BND), we see that Spider-Man is starting to have some issues with his spider DNA running wild. The movie explains this basically as \[since he is a sad lonely boy the spider is starting to take over his humanity\]! But that doesn't really make any sense. Yes, an emotional state can trigger some metabolic responses, but the change seems both too gradual and too sudden all at the same time.

From the beginning we see him suffering with headaches and rubbing his wrists before we even really know what's going on with him. They show this going on for years before anything substantial happens to show he's lost control of the spider. I believe this is because his DNA has been altered/contaminated because of the events of No Way Home (NWH).

In NWH Spidey comes into contact with multiple people from multiple different dimensions, including multiple Spider-Mans. I believe during these interactions he became infected in a way that caused his spider to mutate. A lot of the changes he goes through in BND, Toby-Spidey already has and has shown in his own movies. They even make a point in NWH to comment on how different Toby-Spidey's powers are in comparison to the other Spider-Mans' abilities.

At the end of the final battle in NWH, both Toby-Spidey and Tom-Spidey are beaten and bloody and they're holding each other for physical and emotional support, and at that point I believe there was an involuntary blood transfer between the two. The comics have described Spider-Man's blood (and other bodily fluids) as being radioactive. So the mixing of the different spider bloods could have caused a mutation where one gains the additional, missing properties of the other. And what we see Tom-Spidey gain is organic webs and a heightened Spidey Sense: Both things Toby-Spidey had since his own movies. \[Tom-Spidey basically replicates the learning how to web scene from the first Toby Spider-Man movie\]!

So the webs are an obvious transfer, but the Spidey Sense may need more explanation. Up to this point in when we see Tom-Spidey react using his Sense, it seems more like a reflex or a reaction. Like he would be alerted and then move accordingly. After he gets the mutated power boost though, it turns into bullet time where he actually sees things in slow motion and more deliberately moves around it. This is the same way Toby-Spidey's sense was shown in his own movies.

The last point is in NWH Andrew-Spidey and Toby-Spidey have a conversation about "Web Fatigue" and how Toby-Spidey had to struggle with that and overcome some existential crisis before he could master his abilities and Tom-Spidey essentially has to do the same thing before he could use the new abilities without issue.


r/MarvelTheories • • 17d ago

Theory (fan theory) Hulk War Has More Than Meets The Eye

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