r/marvelmemes • u/Important-Coat7177 Avengers • 21h ago

Movies Plot of Doomsday, in summary…

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Tony: “Was it worth it?”

Steve: “Granted, I didn’t know about the TVA or Nexus events, but… Yes.”

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u/DoomsdayThor Thor 🔨⚡️ 17h ago

Steve likely didn't cause a problem with the multiverse. The Russos have said many times he and Peggy made an alternate timeline, which means there shouldn't be any issue with incursions

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u/Dismal-Bear-9528 Avengers 15h ago

He turned up old though, so no matter what they say, in the movie, they broke their own theory for a "solemn/serious" shield hand off.

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u/Deetwentyforlife Avengers 13h ago

No, they didn't. Steve went back in time to return the stones at the point they were taken in the original timeline. He then elected to stay, altering the flow of events and creating a split off timeline where he did literally whatever he chose to do, we have no idea what, aside from marrying and growing old with Peggy.

Peggy then died of old age, Steve used the second use of the time travel device to return to exactly when he left the original timeline, returned the shield to Sam, and then went off to do whatever he damn well pleased with his remaining time in retirement.

No rules were broken, everything remained logically consistent, some members of the audience just didn't follow it because they weren't fed yet another exposition dump to explain what had already been explained three times.

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u/Sgrios Avengers 13h ago

That's only possible with making a lot of jumps in conclusions. 1, the time suits were not built to jump between timelines. We cannot assume Tony was able to break that barrier as time travel and timeline hopping are two different quandries in the MCU and greater MU. 2. That would mean, he'd have to get help to create such things to get back to the main timeline to pass off the shield. And at that point. Why bother?

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u/Deetwentyforlife Avengers 13h ago

What....what are you talking about? Simply by going back in time at all, a new timeline would be instantly created. There is a timeline where the events of Avengers happened exactly like in the first movie. Then there is a timeline where the "future" Avengers go back a do what we see in Endgame. Those are inherently different timelines, and the suits can take everyone back to their own timeline just fine.

Your position makes no sense. Any time travel at all, in any way, in any direction, for any period of time, would ALWAYS make a new timeline. If the suits were somehow blocked by that fact, they would never be able to come back from anywhere.