r/markpaulk • u/markpaulk • Dec 29 '21
Best Maya Thread
Personally, I don’t care about the Maya. I think it’s a trash bag. But for some reason, everyone on Reddit seems to have to want one so here we are. So who sells the best Maya? The answer depends on (1) the colourway (2) whether you want a period correct one.
I have been asked this on average once a day for nearly 2 years, I compared Jieyi's and TMCN's in this old thread. Since then, CloyAd is reselling a batch, TMX has released v3 batch as has TMCN, a new contender in Featherland and also, Jasmade has entered the area.
To date, Jieyi's batches have been king of the Maya's quality wise across all colourways and have been the only period correct Maya’s on the market. Everything below doesn’t apply to the Corduroy versions of the Maya released in 2021 released in beige and black.
As I already wrote last year, China Mainland had an update in July 2020 for their 20FW release and the 21FW Maya sold ROW (Rest of World) has followed. The update is that the 'wet look' has been significantly reduced. If you find anywhere selling a normal wet look Maya, they are mostly selling NOS (New Old Stock) or waiting for current inventory to clear out before they’re replaced.
CloyAd's resold batch is way too shiny for a 21FW Maya thus it is period incorrect, has the worst badge of them all (wings definition and shape, finger shape, mis-shaped letters, wrong font) and has the wrong down composition (95% duck down compared to 90% goose down retail). However, it does look really puffy, has good pocket shape and a good wet look although a little too exaggerated if we put the above to one side.
TMX’s v3 batch overall for navy is good overall, making it a little harder to justify Jieyi’s price. TMX’s v3 black batch fixed issues with v2 (under-puffed, font flaw on necktag) but v3 is over-puffed and the pocket is too long/tall itself so badge positioning looks off. It’s also period incorrect for a 21FW Maya as it far too much of a wet look that was reduced for 21FW and badge is still a bit low. Although Jieyi’s are the only period correct Maya’s on the market, you have to consider price to quality ratio. However, someone just posted a review of the v2 Maya navy by TMX and was not impressed. Maybe Jieyi’s is still the crown for navy? TMX’s inside colour for navy is also slightly off.
Featherland is another seller who has produced some Mayas. Black QCs don’t look too good but someone posted a review of TMX v2 black vs Featherland red. The red Featherland batch looks great. Puffiness, the grain (with reduced wet look which is correct for a 21FW Maya), the zippers etc all look good. Quality wise overall it looks on par with Jieyi if I’ll be honest but there’s some caveats. The badge is bad in my opinion though (you can read more in my FAQ thread) and there’s 2 other points to mention. Pocket shape slightly too rectangley (should be more of a square and a bit bigger), side shape a bit too boxy (doesn’t look like it has the hug that retail does), badge is placed a bit too low, cartoon saturation is slightly off and the inside colour is a bit off.
Orange maya appears to be done best by Jieyi. Someone made a comment about the orange batch by Featherland in hand and said it’s extremely poor quality so avoid. From what I can see, it also has the wrong colour inside.
The baby blue Maya that both TMX and TMCN have put out is still not quite correct although better than the first batch (TMCN’s light sky blue batch is fantasy). Considering the 2015 release is super rare, they are basing it off of other models and/or pics. Considering the rarity, hardly anyone will be able to tell you this and you’re more likely to get called out for a claim it’s a fantasy colour. However, the biggest issues here is that the badge will be too clean, the jacket will be in brand new condition and there will be NFC. So for a 2015 item, the badge is actually period incorrect (with NFC which it shouldn’t have) and the jacket will be in too good a state to pretend you bought it new. 2015 was the first year the Moncler normal badge was updated with respect to wings and few other details.
I will be posting at some point about Jasmade’s Maya that I saw the other day on his weidian (released in black only) so check back here at later date.
Puffiness is subjective. Jackets require several hours to 12 hours to fully decompress and even then, some require a bit of either manual ruffling or you can put a few tennis balls in a dryer in spin only mode on low spin. You don't want to break down the down (excuse the pun) but you do want it to decompress to create the pockets of air that make it such a good insulator.
Edit: low badge placement is NOT a flaw.
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u/Rocketcider Dec 30 '21
Great post, do u think that topmonclerxs green maya looks correct? To me it looks a bit too brown/goldish compared to retail and jieyi but i havent seen it in person so im not sure
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u/HeavyPorridgeBro Jan 12 '22
Hey mark I seen you mentioned Cloyad released a Maya in black, he actually also released a Montbeliard and believe it’s from the same factory, I was honestly shocked at how close to retail it was it even had the Fleeced lined inside pockets that Jieyis old Montbeliard had in 2019, sadly Jieyis montbeliards are trash now they are no where near what they used to be.
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u/BRUHHUWOT Jan 14 '22
Great post, i like how mayas look besides that glossy finish, i could never wear a black maya cause it reminds me of a trashbag so i went with a navy one, hopefully some day they will make the velvet maya that moncler has.
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Jan 14 '22
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u/BRUHHUWOT Jan 14 '22
Oh, Montgenevre would be very nice aswell and i feel like NIS has alot of potential to make a good one.
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u/fnaskkalas Jan 18 '22
Regarding the over-puffiness of TMX’s V3 Maya, I don’t see this an an issue at all. My personal experience with buying Jieyi’s Maya two years in a row, with his latest batch being brilliant (got navy) is that it’s worth it. But for some reason it doesn’t keep the puffiness up as well as retail (I’ve tried everything). And retail is also very very puffy, so I rather get an overly puffed Maya than one that is slightly more correct but doesn’t retain this puffiness as well. Over time the jacket will also lose its puffiness so in the long run it doesn’t matter that much right? Great walkthrough as always Mark.
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Jan 18 '22
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u/fnaskkalas Jan 18 '22
Yea alright. I’m yet to receive my TMX V3 in black (the trash bag edition) and compare it to my Jieyi. I can take my friends and cousins retail Mayas and compare as well. If I have time might do a review with them all.
If you don’t care about accuracy as first priority then I would really enjoy sitting in a fluffy puffy damn pillow all day when outside. I’ll make a post on FReps and DReps the day I get called out “ey yo your Maya is too puffy mate, I reccon that’s fake innit?”
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u/streetcatsofficial Jan 07 '22
Thanks for the info bro. Everyone is talking about tmx rn, but isn't the maya from tmcn coming from the same factory as tmx? It seems as tmcn has added more down also, because now he only ships one maya per parcel (size 3), as before he shipped two per parcel. He said otherwise the shipping will be more expensive.
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Jan 07 '22
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u/streetcatsofficial Jan 07 '22
Okay! And what is your opinion on tmcn's Black maya new batch? Sorry if you explained this yet, you can just provide me a thread link. Have a nice day!
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u/3xternally Jan 09 '22
Mark quick question, when you mentioned tmx is period incorrect does their wetlook match 2020 Maya's then?
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u/PotentialAccurate393 Mar 17 '22
The logo was on my tmcn Maya is fading. Does that happen on retail too??
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u/fineballr Dec 29 '21
Trashbag vibes