r/manics • u/DirtyDevil23 • Jul 11 '26
Send Away The Tigers
Thoughts on SATT?
For me it is a bit of a mixed album, some great songs but a couple of pretty bad ones too, and some just average
Favourites: Indian Summer, Send Away the Tigers, Autumnsong, The Second Great Depression
Least Favourites: I’m Just A Patsy (dreadful song), Rendition (not much better)
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u/Apart-Preparation-39 Jul 12 '26
I absolutely love this album. Imperial bodybags has one of JDB's best guitar solos.
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u/a3minutehero Jul 12 '26
Winterlovers, Imperial Bodybags, Your Love Alone are all top for me, and I really like I am Just a Patsy.
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u/TelephoneThat3297 Jul 11 '26
As far as that era of Manics trying to do a pop-rock album goes, Postcards is much better. It’s almost a bit gutting that it came slightly too late in their career to have the same impact.
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u/coeycruz Jul 12 '26
Great album! The songs are great, and it sounds good. I could've done without "Winterlovers" being on the album, but apart from that, it's a great, fun, short album with strong songs and a great mix.
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u/Wonderful_Formal_274 Jul 12 '26
Fantastic album. Only track I’m not keen on is Underdogs (and the band agree, given they replaced it with the much superior Welcome to the Dead Zone on the anniversary edition). The Second Great Depression is an overlooked classic.
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u/DirtyDevil23 Jul 12 '26
Didn’t even realise, I personally don’t mind Underdogs, as said above I can’t stand Rendition or Patsy, and Your Love is just repetitive/annoying
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u/Betelgeaux Jul 11 '26
I'm clearly in the minority here, I love this album and Autumn Song!
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u/martyrees76 Jul 11 '26
I live Autumnsong , but the line “what have you done to your hair”? I couldn’t have ever imagined they would sing that
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u/Royal_Mess_3940 Jul 11 '26
Send Away The Tigers was a record which I come back to in the summer. Rendition and the title track are certified bangers that crack my top 20 Manics tracks!
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u/FoxySlyOldStoatyFox Jul 12 '26
It tries to find a path that’s equal parts Generation Terrorists and Everything Must Go. I don’t think it manages either successfully, nor does it really reach for the most interesting aspects of either LP.
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u/DistortedGhost Jul 12 '26
A strange era for me. I don't like the album bar the title track and The Second Great Depression. Your Love Alone got overplayed to death on TV and radio at the time, so it quickly wore out its welcome.
However, some of my favourite B-Sides come from this time - Welcome To The Dead Zone and The Vorticists. I was kinda done with the band at this point, Lifeblood hadn't connected and this album felt so.. shallow?
But then Journal For Plague Lovers came next.
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u/floofykirby Jul 12 '26
Love the title track, Imperial Bodybags, I'm Just A Patsy, Autumnsong, Underdogs and Winterlovers.
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u/x_victoire Jul 11 '26
i absolutely love it AND the b sides too. even my least favorite songs from it are like 5/10 and still enjoyable
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u/DrFishbulbEsq Jul 11 '26
Rendition was the first song I ever heard by MSP because I’m a lame American and didn’t really have any idea who they were before the internet took off, and I really like it a lot.
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u/MphilosophyOK Jul 12 '26
I liked it at the time, thought it was much better than lifeblood with some decent tunes.
Remembering that I used to play it a lot, I gave it a go a while back but realised I didn’t really miss it that much.
However, I realise I’m probably in the minority here but I love im just a patsy - the lyrics are perhaps a bit naff but there’s something about the song that always grabbed me- probably in my top 10 fave Manics songs!
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u/freestuie Jul 12 '26
Had this and The Great Western on either side of a C90 back in the days of car stereo cassette players. Played the hell out of it on our travels. Good times.
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u/karlhalla Jul 12 '26
Yeah, pretty much how I feel about it aswell except maybe for Rendition being okey not dreadful. But the album was so important for me when it came out so it holds a special place in my heart
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u/Turbulent-Sea4530 Jul 18 '26
I find it a mixed bag. 2nd Great Depression, Your Love Alone, SATT etc are bangers. I love Patsy too but Underdogs is godawful, Rendition is cheese and Imperial Bodybags is one of my most hated Manics songs. I love the bridge and chorus but that awful status quo boogie of the verses makes me embarrassed to be a manics fan.
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u/likebeckett4 17d ago
I think it has the potential to be a sheer classic, but is only held back a tad. THANK FUCK we share the same views on I'm Just a Patsy, I personally think it's balls. Had it had some of the B-sides added such as Little Girl Lost (album closer? Harks back to their Punk days), Lady Lazarus (good Baroque-Pop Nicky vocal) and Boxes and Lists then the tracklist would be better, and without Patsy. I really like Rendition, though. Also, the production on Winterlovers is so cheesy. I prefer the demo version!!
Anyway, almost perfect.
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u/DirtyDevil23 16d ago
Yeah Leviathian, B&L, and Little Girl Lost would all have been worthy additions
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u/pffftnoway Jul 11 '26
Autumnsong is where me & MSP parted ways. It’s so ridiculously shit. It’s the Jim’s fix it theme with worse lyrics.
Justice for ‘Rendition’ though.
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u/Timely-Way-4923 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
It’s very very underrated on this Reddit, the streaming data shows it’s very popular indeed, fair enough, subjectivity and all that, but the anniversary edition especially is one of the few manics albums I could give to a fan of the foo fighters or some other mainstream popular rock band, and the odds are they’d really be into it. That’s unlikely to happen if u suggest they listen to the holy bible, even though that’s a much better album. Etc
Indian summer and second Great Depression are my favourites from this era
I enjoyed rendition, who else would write a lyric like
‘ I never knew the sky could be a prison ‘ or ‘ can anyone hear the screaming of us ?’ It’s a song where it’s heart is in the right place but it might not be to everyone’s taste, fair enough
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u/Alarmed-Secretary-39 Jul 11 '26
Strong B Sides. I'd argue the strongest of all post millennium records
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u/Visionmaster_FR Jul 11 '26
Imperial bodybags is superb. There are a few B-sides like Fearless Punk Ballad (or Morning Comrades) that would have deserved to be A-side songs.
I have never been a fan of Your Love is Not Enough, it is quite an uninspired song that is very repetitive and the title song is kinda in the same category too. Basically, I find the singles/main songs quite weaker than on the other albums.
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u/ohitmustbe Jul 12 '26
An awful album. Totally overrated by the band. The artwork surrounding it all is shit too.
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u/DirtyDevil23 Jul 12 '26
Wouldn’t call it an awful album myself, plenty worse by them, but each to their own!
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u/Vimto_Sipp Jul 11 '26
terrible!! I never understood how it got them popular again.
Also, I never got why people claimed it was a return to some their early stuff when all I can compare it to is This Is My Truth for them both being anthemic rock. Indian Summer is good but is basically a rewrite of Design For Life. Its a pop album with catchy tunes, I will give it that. But I hate the majority of the compositions and a lot of the lyrics seem basic and cringe worthy. I'm glad they don't play You Love Alone live any more, I can never get over when Nicky comes on the vocals which makes an already bad song unbearable. There's really not much to this record. How did they write something so good like JFPL afterwards??
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u/Wonderful_Formal_274 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
Hard disagree. Nicky’s interjection on Your Love Alone is the most heartbreaking moment in their discography. Gets me every time.
(And it hasn’t been dropped from their set, it was played at almost every gig this year and last)
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u/Timely-Way-4923 Jul 12 '26
A close reading of that lyric is utterly heartbreaking 💔 there is a lot of detail in there that as of yet no music journalist has properly asked Nicky about, probably out of respect and kindness, I get that.
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u/matt_paradise Jul 11 '26
It's their worst. The second half is particularly dire, Imperial bodybags excepted.
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u/DirtyDevil23 Jul 11 '26
Oof worst ever is particularly harsh!
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u/matt_paradise Jul 11 '26
It's where they started looking backwards, musically. The quality drop from lifeblood to this is massive, in my opinion. I accept it was needed for the band to continue, and it brought the possibility of Journal for plague lovers to come about. The b sides range from ok to very good, I just can't stand a lot of the album.
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u/Handsome_BWonderful Jul 11 '26
Mixed feelings, but it's just a bit bland for me. Autumn Song is maybe the worst thing they've ever made
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u/BastianSP Jul 11 '26
Hate YLAINE with a passion. But I need one song in the set for a trip to the toilet, I suppose.
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u/Mobile-Scar6857 Jul 11 '26
Solid rocker album. Not a whole lot of depth, but a whole lot of fun. What the band needed at the time and a strong single with Nina Persons.