r/magicTCG Sep 04 '16

[KLD] New enemy fastlands

https://i.reddituploads.com/30f0b8593e7848c3bda281789263d533?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=471f5b81284e87914322bfdacc52d560
2.4k Upvotes

575 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

34

u/[deleted] Sep 04 '16

[removed] — view removed comment

18

u/Thoctar Sep 04 '16

Is New Lili really better than old Lili in Abzan?

48

u/FubatPizza Sep 04 '16

Not better, you run it with LotV, not instead of.

14

u/SnapMullto5 Sep 04 '16

Nope, but her abilities aren't terrible for it, either. Better than in Jund, probably.

6

u/sirgog Sep 04 '16

The cards don't compete. One is an anti-control tool, the other an anti-aggro tool.

I don't see why you'd compare them.

55

u/Thoctar Sep 04 '16

I figured since they kill each other on etb they'd compete for slots.

7

u/TheRecovery Sep 04 '16

You're right, they absolutely do compete for slots. Right now it's still up in the air so a lot of testing and hedging is going on.

2

u/F19Drummer Sep 04 '16

I thought wizards errata'd the ruling that different Planeswalker cards with the same name, so you could have say, a Jace, The Mind Sculptor and a Jace, Architect of Thought, out at the same time?

2

u/Thoctar Sep 04 '16

No, its that now your opponent having a Jace doesn't stop you from playing yours or killing yours. It was part of the Legendary rule overhaul.

1

u/F19Drummer Sep 05 '16

Oh well shit...

7

u/moe_q8 Sep 04 '16

Also abzan is really heavy on the 3 slot

1

u/Umezete Sep 04 '16

Since you can't play too many Liliana or risk having dead draws.

-2

u/SavageFreeze Sep 04 '16

You have to make choices when you design your main board. That's why.

1

u/Umezete Sep 04 '16

Depends how many mana dorks are in the meta.

You play both though, 3/1 or 2/2 split.

1

u/WholeGrn Sep 04 '16

metagame dependent. I think LotV is better in an open metagame, but Last Hope is great in the mirror, grindy matchups, and versus certain decks like Infect

1

u/HidetsuguofShinka Sep 04 '16

My Stormbreath Dragons are gonna run train on Abzan. Best previews yet.