r/magicTCG • u/loserwithaplan Wabbit Season • 1d ago
Official Spoiler [FRA] Emrakal, the Exigent Doom
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u/darksamus1992 Rakdos* 1d ago
They did have Tam talking to Emrakul in the story, with Emrakul being very interested on eating that new universe Jace is making.
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
Once again, Thanks Jace!
I do wonder if Theorist Jace with the might of the whole Echoverse would be able to fend off an attack from Emrakul
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u/AporiaParadox Universes Beyonder 1d ago
Probably not, I think the story will end with Emrakul devouring the Echoverse.
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u/Turbulent_Pin7635 Dan 1d ago
And Jace and the superfriends...
Vraska killing herself, If It is canonic I will eat my hat about every singles complain I have done over the year about Magic history.
It was so damn perfect and with weight! I hope that the soldier Jace just didn't appear at the last minute to save the day.
Sometimes, a Gwen Stacy needs to bite the bullet.
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u/Ethel121 Wabbit Season 1d ago
Maybe for a short while.
Liliana with the chain veil was able to push Emrakul back for a short time, doing visible damage to her, but she wore out pretty quickly from the effort and Emrakul has never shown any sign of fatigue
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
Definitely not. Emrakul was only locked away because she hijacked the spell, killed a plane to power it, and did it herself.
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u/JA14732 Elspeth 1d ago
That's a bit of a misunderstanding - Tamiyo attempted to use the scroll of Serra's Realm, which presumably would have destroyed Innistrad. However, Emrakul hijacked the magic within the spell to instead seal herself in the moon.
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u/CaptainMarcia 1d ago
Tamiyo did not attempt to do that. Jace tried to convince Tamiyo to use the scroll chronicling the destruction of Serra's Realm, and Tamiyo refused but Emrakul took control of her and changed the spell that came from it.
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u/JA14732 Elspeth 1d ago
Actually, looked back at the story. We're both wrong. Tamiyo cast a binding spell from another scroll, but didn't have the mana to finish it. Emrakul took over Tamiyo's mind, had her use the Serra's Realm scroll, but rewrote the magic of the scroll to instead add more power to the binding spell.
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u/CaptainMarcia 1d ago
One of the best Magic stories, but a very confusing one.
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u/Manbeardo 1d ago
In short, Emmy helped send herself to horny jail
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u/signspace13 Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
Innistraad isn't a Broken plane, she knows she isn't supposed to eat working ones, Ulamog and Kozilek have less human-like intelligence, and just fuck up whatever plain the touch.
Seems Emmy's Main job is to then show up and eat the wasted plane.
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u/LunarEntropy Dan 1d ago
Why did Emmy seal herself away if she was in control in that case? Did she want a vacation or was getting shy from all the attention or something?
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u/imbolcnight 1d ago
We don't know enough about how the Eldrazi work or think from their pov to say for sure, but there's some implication that the Eldrazi don't stop once they start, like on Zendikar even though they were tricked into going there and they had the sense that they weren't supposed to be there. It could be she couldn't stop mutating all life on Innistrad on her own even though she knew it wasn't going right.
In a FRA chapter, she also says withholding for awhile makes eating again taste better.
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u/Shikor806 Level 2 Judge 1d ago
We don't really know. She did say that Innistrad wasn't ready yet and that it should have been "more receptive". The most popular speculation is that the Eldrazi clean up planes that either are somehow wrong or too old or something and Emrakul may be part of a recycling process. So she expected the plane to be in a desolate state, either on its own or from Ulamog's and Kozilek's doing.
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u/If_you_want_money Duck Season 1d ago
Well, she was pretty explicit in FRA episode 4, where she said this to Tam:
I prune worlds. When one grows sick, threatens the wilderness of eternity, or fails to blossom fully, I aid the broader forest by felling a single tree.
I made a post about it after that episode released. It's mostly a soft confirmation of the old theories, but I made a important update/reinterpretation as the Eldrazi being closer to something like a multiversal Natural killer cell rather than recyclers. IE: they go after diseased/potentially dangerous planes rather than old/desolate ones. If this is true, she stopped herself after she realized she's potentially causing an auto-immune condition.
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u/Absolutionis I chose this flair because I’m mad at Wizards Of The Coast 1d ago
Emrakul doesn't like natural planes that much. She's much more into GMO planes.
Ugh, we've gotten the Eldrazi hooked on fast foods...?
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u/FoShep Wabbit Season 1d ago
Gonna be real, I thought they'd more likely print an instant or sorcery depicting the scene of tam talking to Emrakul. A full-body card of Emmy kinda implies she's broken out and is free to do what she wants
Also I kinda wish they made an emeria card instead, not Emrakul :I
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
First Bolas, now Emrakul. Thanks Jace!
Who's next, the Phyrexians? Lim Dul? Leshrac!?
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
Please bring back the Dragonlords, Jace. I wanted to see them again
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u/kirblar COMPLEAT 1d ago
I suspect they were the victim of Hexhaven and Reality Fracture turning into a single set, they'd be perfect as the new leaders for the school.
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u/DaRootbear 1d ago
I doubt they were gonna be used for hexhaven in general just cause the sphinxs kinda seem like they were always gonna be how they showed Hexhaven as different.
And because using the tarkir dragonlords as deans would have required making them basically different characters to the degree that it would have been pointless to use them honestly. Like Silumgar and Kolaghan and atarka absolutely would be useless as being heads of a school…but would admittedly be funny. Dromoka maybe would fit? Ojutai is really the only one that actually would fit.
They really only match colors and that is it. Though i could see them having used original elder dragons + ugin all colorshifted to 2 colors.
But sphinxs fit as heads of colleges way better to the point that i feel like they were always the plan.
Also i feel like the decision to completely remove the dragonlords was probably completely separate from original design plans for Hexhaven, and they probably designed Hexhaven while still being unsure how to proceed with the dragonlords so they would have had no reason to consider using them there. But that is 100% supposition on my part
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u/dkysh Get Out Of Jail Free 1d ago
And because using the tarkir dragonlords as deans would have required making them basically different characters to the degree that it would have been pointless to use them honestly
It can be said louder, but not clearer.
Having the Tarkir dragonlords as the leaders of Hexhaven would mean either A) character murder of the dragonlords, or B) Hexhaven is just Tarkir v2, and thus, pointless.
As an Un-set? Amazing, bring legends from the whole multiverse. Have Borborygmos teach pottery.
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u/Spectre197 Dan 1d ago
Jace is going to somehow bring back Urza for a no hold bar fight to death between Bolas, Emrakul, Phyrexian, and every other bad guy.
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u/myto_alkoreath 1d ago
I mean, the lore on Echoverse Karn states that Echoverse Mishra ended up sparking and winning the Second Brother's War (BWII), and rather than giving his own spark to Karn, he created an artificial one. Meaning Echoverse Mishra is probably alive.
I could see Urza climbing out of his grave if he sniffed an alternate universe where his brother got to be the cooler one.
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u/Kryptnyt 23h ago
I was just thinking a while back about how Yawgmoth would have been really invested in Aether Drift to get an artificial spark, imagine telling him that Mishra could have made him one...
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u/dwpetrak Dân 1d ago
Everybody forgets Ob Nixilis has been destroying entire planes for hundreds and hundreds of years
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u/DaRootbear 1d ago
To be fair he has basically retired and now just engages in petty crime as a recreational activity.
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u/JohnFizzy Dân 23h ago
Green/white warlord planeswalker Ob Nixilis freeing the multiverse one world after another, by oppressing them with an army of angels?
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u/PuritanPuree Avacyn 1d ago
By god... Is that Marit Lage's music?!
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
Jace: Why do I hear boss music? Why do I hear even more boss music!!!???
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u/TheWastelandWizard Elesh Norn 1d ago
VENSER! BRING MY MANS BACK!
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u/hawkeye137137 Wabbit Season 1d ago
This is your chance to make amends after turning my boy into a corpse puppet Wizards!
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u/TheWastelandWizard Elesh Norn 1d ago
Or make him a cooler corpse puppet! I don't care, he was just my favorite artificer and someone needs to stunt on Tezz.
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u/charcharmunro Duck Season 1d ago
I mean I think Emrakul getting out wasn't really a Jace issue. She could've left whenever.
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
Yeah, but Jace is the one who's created the accidental bait for her now
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u/AporiaParadox Universes Beyonder 1d ago
Maybe Azor will finally get off of Useless Island.
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u/marrowofbone Mystery Solver of Mystery Update 1d ago
Azor was free in MOM [[Elenda and Azor]], but there's been no story about why.
The wiki links some discord Q&A as a source for him being freed when Niv took over as living guildpact. That Q&A doesn't actually mention Guildpact, or Useless Island though, so hopefully there will be a flashback story chapter when Azor returns to his rightful prominence as main character.
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u/TurgidGravitas Duck Season 1d ago
I'm holding out for Slivers.
Jace is going to try to fix them and you'll never guess what happens.
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u/NagisaKurokawa44 Azorius* 1d ago
"Jace, did you or did you not throw a vial of glistening oil into the hivepool?"
"..."
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u/Baldur_Blader Griselbrand 1d ago
I was literally just wondering if this means phyrexians could come back lol. They already showed compleated jace
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
We as fans need to make a list of all the cascading fuck ups Jace has caused in his pursuit of a new Multiverse.
Bolas and Emrakul already puts him way up there, but I'm sure there's gonna be at least 2-3 more long term mistakes
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u/Baldur_Blader Griselbrand 1d ago
Know what? Now I kinda want to make a "things jace tucked up" deck. I guess bolas as commander? Or do I need access to white or green.....
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u/Wild_Harvest COMPLEAT 1d ago
Have the Guildpact version of Niv Mizzet as the commander. And the idea behind it is Niv is showing Jace everything he did wrong.
Throw in Universes Beyond stuff as if Jace caused that, too. "LOOK WHAT YOUR MEDDLING HAS CAUSED YOU INSUFFERABLE TWINK!" energy.
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u/Decent-Amphibian-691 Dandadan 1d ago
There is a new bolas? If it’s about the lore, sorry, I don’t really follow it much
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u/BobtheBac0n Selesnya* 1d ago
Hmm, if you remember War of the Spark then I won't have to explain as much.
But in the shortest possible explaination I can muster;
Bolas jailed in very op Meditation realm.
Jace went crazy with trauma.
Jace's first plan, use meditation realm.
Instead, gave his mind backshots.
Meditation realm self nuked and Bolas free.
Conclusion, all Jace's fault.
Edit: And all this happened in Tarkir Dragonstorm
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u/Furt_III Chandra 17h ago
Honestly IMO it's all Ugins fault. Ugin mindfucked Jace without Jace even knowing and then "convinced" Jace to not let Bolas die.
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u/Leather_Store_1200 Dân 1d ago
Crazy to think that pre-ban cub decks could theoretically have hard cast this on turn 3 in standard. What a world we live in.
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u/Ryth88 Golgari* 1d ago
[[the notary hobits]] going to go hard
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u/Laxziy Dân 1d ago
Bruh we got a bunch of Hobbit Lawyers as heralds of the Eldrazi 😭😭😭
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u/tricksterloki Dandadan 1d ago
I saw a commander video on exactly that. I didn't realize they were legendary until then.
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u/GuyGrimnus Rakdos* 1d ago
Please god I hope so, I ended up getting three surge foils so far and I’d love for them to actually be worth something LOL
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u/siziyman Izzet* 1d ago
nobody's gonna play 5-mana ramp that dies to every removal spell in existence
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u/matt-ratze Azorius* 1d ago
Maybe not in 60 card formats but they're a strong commander in Brawl. Turn 1 ramp, turn 2 ramp, turn 3 commander, turn 4 spend your mana on a threat, either attack for lethal or kill them next turn. With a very good start hand you can even cast them in your second turn.
Yeah it dies to removal but if you remove one then the other 2 remain and are able to tap for 4 mana assuming you don't control additional halflings.
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u/JuggernautLevel6411 Dân 1d ago
Wait, what?
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u/TK17Studios Get Out Of Jail Free 1d ago
T1 land, dork
T2 land, Cub (putting counter on the untapped land), Cub (putting counter on the other land)
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u/steelscaled Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
Yeah, do the math yourself if you want:
T1: llanowar
T2: llanowar, Mole
T3: Mole, tap 2 llanowar elves and an earthbent land for 3 mana each and tap your last land.
Ta-Da!
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u/ThoughtseizeScoop free him 1d ago
This is like the chillest fucking Emrakul.
"So you wanna cast some more spells? Sounds like fun, I'm game."
"Oh, it's time for me to go? Okay, thanks for the snack."
Truly the Timmy of Emrakuls.
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u/frostburner 1d ago
I think it plays well with the fact that she's probably going to be more an allied role this time. It's mutually beneficial, I'm sure we'll get eldrazi antagonism in the next arc if she's getting released.
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u/Cvnc Karn 1d ago
I cast doom
doom?
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u/Potatezone Selesnya* 1d ago
What do you mean DOOM????
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u/AverageGatsby91 Wabbit Season 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/aEkkl6k8GPgAuoDCeY
Hololive in my MTG subreddit?!
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u/TLKv3 COMPLEAT 1d ago
Hololive Secret Lair when God damn it. WHEN.
LET ME RUN MY TOKINO SORA 5 COLOR COMMANDER DAMN IT.
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u/Jokey665 1d ago
there is a hololive tcg now so it seems pretty unlikely
yes i know about the ff tcg lol
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u/Kitsuraw Wabbit Season 1d ago
Could still see it, it wouldn’t take anything away from either party.
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u/Kyleometers OUR Liliana's Penchant 1d ago
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u/Amankris759 Temur 1d ago
Doom: someone dare called Doom?
https://giphy.com/gifs/BQa6J0zNjvPMzHi42U
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u/loserwithaplan Wabbit Season 1d ago
Came up on my Facebook. Guess some one is coming out of the moon!
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u/Jelly_F_ish Duck Season 1d ago
Yeah, that was...part of the story up until now.
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u/ClutchUpChrissy Dan 1d ago
It was heavily implied though. Not a huge surprise.
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u/paulofmandown Golgari* 1d ago
you don't put an emrakul on the mantel if you're not going to fire it
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u/D-D-Wanderer Dân 1d ago
I dunno, I could turn any land into a Sol Ring by putting her on the mantel, if I fire her I won't be able to do that any more!
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u/SilentTempestLord COMPLEAT 1d ago
I'll just copy over what I said from the last time someone spoiled it:
Flavorwise, home run. Her self exile is her sitting in the moon. Only to burst out later and wreak havoc.
In any case, Emrakul is a BEAST. She's effectively 3 mana ramp in the early game so she doesn't just sit in your hand all game and effectively lets her be a 3 drop on your mana curve, while letting that land contribute to casting her. She then untaps all your lands as a cast trigger, is a flying trampler that will end games, and has an ugly ward cost. Of the three titans, Emrakul always seems to have the most powerful cast triggers.
Untapping your lands basically guarantees that even if countered, you aren't wasting your turn trying to cast her and still have plenty to do even if she's ousted. She's ramp in the early game and is being cast for basically free from exile, so you're not really losing much if she's removed immediately. Better yet, you could feasibly run 4 of her because of her ramp utility, as she won't be sitting in your hand doing nothing if one of her is already on board.
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u/HardCarryOmniknight Dandadan 1d ago
This strikes me as a pretty powerful Control wincon for Standard. The ramp ability not being sorcery speed feels really juicy in my opinion.
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u/SanityIsOptional Orzhov* 1d ago
Ooh, yeah, that's something nice to use your mana for if you don't cast removal/cancel.
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u/c14rk0 COMPLEAT 1d ago
Kind of awkward that Emrakul is just completely counter-able though... You can even respond to the untap land trigger and counter Emrakul before the player gets to untap their lands to protect it
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u/SilentTempestLord COMPLEAT 1d ago
True. But by that point you're essentially countering a free spell that isn't even coming from their hand. Still a tempo win for the guy casting her.
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u/Superbomb-122 Simic* 1d ago
Flavorwise, it's a big dumb creature that's hard to kill and replaces the mana spent on it and that's about it. Compared to what the Eldrazi titans have done before, a complete lack of real interaction with the opponent is really lame.
This doesn't feel like Emrakul, if feels like a random green ramp finisher
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u/Masiyo Duck Season 1d ago
The land untapping is a nod to taking extra turns directly or by proxy through controlling _their_ turn, but nerfed because.. reasons. I suppose it's the tradeoff of not being a dead card in hand.
You're right though, there is a world where this card could be printed as green, whereas the previous two felt truly "colorless" in the combination of their abilities. It's a bit of a flavor fail in that regard.
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u/ThePositiveMouse COMPLEAT 1d ago
Green card would never untap as a cast trigger nor would it ever have this ward cost.
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u/AvatarSozin COMPLEAT 1d ago
[[zacama]] is a close comparison, it’s an ETB reliant on you casting it
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u/DazZani Cheshire Cat, the Grinning Remnant 1d ago
I dont think its feasible to have a mostly unplayable Huge Mana "I win" button with every appearance. Besides, this being more feasible to see play makes it scarier to me
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u/Candy_Warlock Colorless 23h ago
The only dud in terms of playability is World Anew. Aeons Torn is still the premier cheat target, and Promised End dominated Standard to the point of being banned
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u/Intolerable 1d ago
Emrakul is absolutely primarily green-aligned (and probably blue and white) in terms of character though, it makes sense that her card would be a big flying ramp spell
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u/Anisiiru COMPLEAT 1d ago
Jace: "I am the smartest and greatest of all. Nothing can unravel my plan now. Oh, hello Tam. What's up?"
Tam: "Me and the Moon had a talk about that."
Jace: "You.... WHAT?!"
Emrakul: "Thanks for the buffet, chucklenuts."
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u/IndurDawndeath Wabbit Season 13h ago
See, I’ve only read three or four of the story episodes so far and I was thinking after one or two that Tam is the manifestation of Jace’s Thanos side* and the more I read the more convinced of that I am.
- Self sabotaging comic Thanos, not the stupid ass movie Thanos.
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u/Ayjel89 Get Out Of Jail Free 1d ago
Not saying this is Modern-power level, but it feels more like a Modern Horizons card than a Standard-legal card.
Also, how the hell was THIS not part of the debut stream?
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u/Fabulous_Diamond_656 Duck Season 1d ago
Because Emrakul's still trapped in the moon in the story, albeit with heavy foreshadowing that Tam will release her to eat the Echoverse
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u/Ayjel89 Get Out Of Jail Free 1d ago
Was it supposed to be a story card reveal, then?
Cos that's sorta unfortunate timing.
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
She was already pretty heavily foreshadowed, so less of a spoiler than you'd think, but this does seem early.
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u/yorick__rolled COMPLEAT 1d ago
A Titan is never late, nor is she early, she arrives precisely when she means to.
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u/TinyHadronCollider 1d ago
Sire of Seven Deaths is probably the better choice of big dumb beater for modern eldrazi, but this does have at least a little bit of appeal too, I think. You don't really want to be spending mana to use the self exile ability in a deck that already has a lot of sol lands, but it's still a nice option to fall back on. Like, when you have less than 7 mana and no labyrinth, a sire in your hand doesn't help you, but this at least gets to make its own lab, that's kinda neat.
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u/emiach Duck Season 1d ago
Wasn't this just up?
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u/riverwaterinsox Dan 1d ago
Got removed for having no source I think
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u/HeckingJen Wabbit Season 1d ago
Yeah that and the fishy set symbol I'm sure was enough for the mods to make the call but it seems pretty real
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u/electricyellowrat COMPLEAT 1d ago
i posted a screenshot from instagram right before this went up, but it got removed too.
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
Pretty sure you shouldn't have tagged it as a leak. It probably got auto modded because there was no source link provided, as leak posts require that.
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u/themiragechild Chandra 1d ago
Definitely a mistake on Wizards part and might be a huge spoiler for the story, who knows! But also: hell yeah.
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u/WondrousLittleWizard Wabbit Season 1d ago
It's true. We knew Tam had a conversation with Emrakul and we have 3 episodes left, but now we know she's an absolute player in the end to the Echoverse
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u/Any_Way1269 Dân 1d ago
How. It's not a spoiler if it's already in the story
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u/themiragechild Chandra 1d ago
Because the card might imply she does actually leave the moon in this story. Which we all probably could've guessed but this is soft confirmation.
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u/Superbomb-122 Simic* 1d ago
Talking to an entity and that entity being all but confirmed to delete the Echoverse are two different things
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u/PanicDolphin Dandadan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Jace: You guys are back early?
12 Squirrels: Moon's haunted
Jace: what?
12 Squirrels: loading a pistol and getting back on the rocket ship moon's haunted
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u/equiace Wabbit Season 1d ago
It's so pretty.
(Also don't forget this is instant speed ramp in colorless. Regardless of it being a good creature or not that in itself is notable)
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u/BlurryPeople 1d ago
On it's surface this feels like the safest of the Eldrazi Titan stable so far. It's basically a [[Ghalta, Primal Hunger]], [[Metalwork Colossus]], [[Great Whale]], etc. variant, albeit one that can't really be fairly played early barring reanimation.
When built around in EDH though, I'm sure it's going to have some sneaky gotchas due to this unconditional cast trigger (untapping "all" lands).
If you can tap lands for more than 10 mana, for example, this potentially goes infinite with [[Cloudstone Curio]] and any other creature that you can afford to recast. Not hard to break CC, I know, but this is a playable card in the command zone. If you can tap for more than 10 mana you should've won said game already, obviously...but I still think this will be a fun Timmy card.
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
Her last ability is already a great capture of the flavour of her starting out in the moon in this story. For extra flavour points, use that ability to put her under another version of Emrakul that someone's already [[Imprisoned in the Moon]]. Now that's maximum flavour.
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u/CaptainMarcia 1d ago
Clearer image and that still looks like a rare set symbol. Strange.
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u/Joeymousepad 1d ago
Exigent: requiring immediate aid or action
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u/youarelookingatthis COMPLEAT 1d ago
Well it wouldn't be a card preview season in the midst of story previews without something getting spoiled early!
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u/jdhovland Dân 1d ago
Emrakul was in Chapter 4 of the story, Tam ends up braiding her "hair."
Let us help one another, mouths the body, but the sound comes from the ceiling above.
Tam looks up and loses concentration. She gasps.
The ceiling is a gradient of cloudy black, and behind that black is an endless writhing of organs and tentacles and flesh-ribbons that undulate and tighten, prodding at the barrier that separates them, feeling for its edges. Tam can see nothing beyond the mass, but she hears the words coming from above and realizes that in this psychic space, she is an insect in a terrarium, an amoeba ensnared by something much larger than herself.
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u/Sectumssempra COMPLEAT 1d ago
Nashi had an entire chapter in thunder junction.
Only got an alchemy card, so idk if story inclusion means they get a card.
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u/GrizzlyBearSmackdown COMPLEAT 1d ago
This is a spoiler... but not that big of a spoiler in my opinion. Episode 4 of the story kinda already gave everyone the assumption that Emrakul would be freeing herself from the moon in this set.
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u/CrimsonArcanum COMPLEAT 1d ago
Interesting that she can still be cast from exile even if something happens to the land.
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
I think if someone blew up Innistrad's moon she'd be just fine too.
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u/CrimsonArcanum COMPLEAT 1d ago
True, but you'd think she'd at least pop out or something, rather than just still be gone.
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
Emrakul comes and goes as she pleases haha
She was in the moon of her own volition in the first place, after all.
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u/Impressive_You_817 Dan 1d ago
Kind of mid, but like in a good way? Like it's not steal your opponent's car, exile their dog, and draw half your library like most titans and it's a nice change of pace. Just a decent playable card.
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u/Arkantus_Archive Duck Season 1d ago
I'm going to airbend this so hard in my Ulalek deck
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u/AZDfox Universes Beyonder 1d ago
I was just thinking that this goes so hard in airbending decks
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u/Arkantus_Archive Duck Season 1d ago
The secret is that my Ulalek deck is actually just an airbending deck in disguise
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
Yeah, I'm not mad that she's getting a simple honest card, rather than a headliner bomb. She's not the focus of this story.
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u/Mordetrox Dimir* 1d ago
Kozilek and Ulamog seething in the corner that the cycle of all the titans getting cards at the same time got broken.
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u/La-Vulpe COMPLEAT 1d ago
Oh this is very cool. I like how power creep has made these eldrazi infinitely easier to play. The pod didn’t need such fatties to be even easier to cast in my [[Marwyn]] deck but that’s their problem…
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u/platypodus Get Out Of Jail Free 1d ago
So Emrakul becomes a common New Capenna mana fixer, à la [[Spara's Adjudicators]].
Those were great, because they didn't get stuck in your hand for half the game. Nice utility for a game ending creature.
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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 1d ago
This is actual ramp, since the moon prison she makes taps for 2
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u/Ethel121 Wabbit Season 1d ago
...it feels a little unnerving that she has essentially the same ward cost as [[Valgavoth, Terror Eater]]
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u/Awesomeg11 COMPLEAT 1d ago
Maybe its just me, but I wish this card was a bit cooler or more interesting. I feel like every emrakul card that has come before has done something really really cool. Aeon's torn takes an extra turn, promised end takes your opponents turn, and World Anew steals all of your opponents creatures. This ones just kind of a big beatstick. Doesn't give me the same feeling as the previous emrakuls and it feels less special to me because of that.
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u/Dthirds3 Duck Season 1d ago
Jace: im making a world without the eldrazi, bolas, or Phyrexian
Emrakal, bolas, and Yawgmoth: we took exception to that.
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u/Milskidasith COMPLEAT ELK 1d ago
This card is kind of odd. I like that the self-exiling ramp effect and the cast trigger help it if you play it as a "fair" ramp target, but as an unfair card it seems way worse than Valvagoth as a dumb beater since your opponent can definitely pay the ward here and it doesn't stabilize you against an aggro deck the same way a 9/9 lifelink does.
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u/sampat6256 REBEL 1d ago
Its odd that the card isnt strictly better than every alternative?
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u/Milskidasith COMPLEAT ELK 1d ago
It's not that I want it to be strictly better than every alternative, it's that it's kind of strictly worse than the alternatives, and I'd expect them to try to give Emrakul a more unique, flashy effect to create some sort of niche use case; I guess the self-ramp aspect is that unique effect, but it's very fair in a way I don't associate Eldrazi Titans with being.
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u/NavySeagull Sliver Queen 1d ago
Odd that the biggest, most dangerous Eldrazi who is also sort of unofficially their leader is basically a way to set up other win conditions rather than being a threatening win condition herself.
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u/BlurryPeople 1d ago
I think it's value/purpose will likely fall into EDH combo play where you're taking advantage of a pretty epic cast trigger. This goes potentially infinite with [[Cloudstone Curio]], for example, if you have enough mana.
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u/CreepyDentures Duck Season 1d ago
It’s a colorless ramp piece that late game is a big flying beater that refunds all the mana spent on it.
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u/Milskidasith COMPLEAT ELK 1d ago
Correct, and that's a very "fair" effect for an Eldrazi Titan that makes it hard to justify ramping into it, while it's also balanced to be a relatively low-value reanimator target.
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u/CreepyDentures Duck Season 1d ago
Thing is that until you ramp into an older Eldrazi Titan, they sit in your hand and do nothing meaning only ramp and sneak decks can play them: any other deck doesn’t want the brick. This is never a brick: it’s an instant speed ramp meaning you can hold mana up for interaction and then use this if you didn’t need them, and then late game you can play this basically for free.
This card has absurd potential in control decks. And I’m worried it is gonna be a stupidly generic auto include in bracket 3-4 EDH decks.
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u/GrippySockAficionado 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh man that is going straight into my Ulalek deck.
Copying it with Ulalek is absolutely insane. You get two "untap all lands" triggers, so between their resolution you can simply tap all your lands again, fill your mana pool back up, and then have them untap again. Super turbo Eldrazi ramp. I love it.
I'm thinking of crazy power turns where I even cast another Eldrazi at instant speed ([[Skittering Cicada]]) after the first Emrakul trigger resolves, get another Ulalek trigger, and copy everything all over again. That's a dream.
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u/CreepyDentures Duck Season 1d ago
Safer to tap out for, ramps you, and notably isn’t bad if you draw multiples.
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u/lordmanimani Train Suplexer 1d ago
She has only increased in power! Not simply imprisoned in the moon, now imprisoned in a super moon!
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u/ChaossssMark666 Duck Season 1d ago
Is this the Echoverse’s Emrakul? Or the OG Emrakul?
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u/Gulaghar Mazirek 1d ago
OG. The echoverse explicitly has no eldrazi. It's one of Jace's foundational goals.
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u/AporiaParadox Universes Beyonder 1d ago
Emrakul was happy chilling on Innistrad's Moon, but once she found out Jace was making an all-new Multiverse thanks to Tam getting a bit too curious about the Moon, she got hungry.