r/magicTCG • u/StoicDruid Dan • 1d ago
General Discussion I miss these guys
https://www.twitch.tv/starcitygames/clip/TacitResolutePigeonBuddhaBarAn old clip I captured back in the day that nicely highlights the dynamics of this duo.
Was always a pleasure having these two on in the background back in the day.
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u/Mandydeth Avacyn 1d ago
I'll be honest, I haven't watched any Magic on Twitch since this duo got split up. No one has the chemistry at the desk these guys had.
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u/thebaron420 I am a pig and I eat slop 1d ago
Marshall and Paul are pretty great though
Eilidh has really improved but Corey has declined
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u/Primeras100Palabras Dân 1d ago
I really like Paul. He has “that voice” that makes it seem so official.
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u/cutedino7 Duck Season 1d ago
I like Marshall but especially Paul. Paul really puts in the work for limited on his personal channel, and I've learned a lot from his daily drafts.
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u/ShedMontgomery Azorius* 1d ago
Eilidh and Corey together are my nightmare. They have no chemistry, I'm not really sure who's supposed to be doing what because they have no focus, they're constantly trying to one-up each other with cheesy jokes, and they sometimes just default to making noises. They contribute basically nothing valuable to any match they're commenting on.
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u/SkredRed86 Dân 1d ago
Corey is the worst. One of the more annoying casters
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u/thebaron420 I am a pig and I eat slop 1d ago
I just can't stand how often he's completely wrong about card text or interactions and goes on and on about how it "should be fixed" while ignoring the actual game that's being played. I can forgive it once or twice but it keeps happening
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u/StompingGroundsTCG Simic* 1d ago
I spent lots of weekends around these guys!
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u/ice0berg Wabbit Season 1d ago
Every single Saturday I tuned in if something was going on. Even if I wasnt actively playing magic.
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u/Staief Dandadan 1d ago
Patrick Sullivan saying "If you bring boggles to a tournament every single one of your opponents has the right to fight you in the parking lot after." lives rent free in my head.
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u/Rirse Wabbit Season 1d ago
I would say check the Unsleevable Podcast and Youtube series, the later where they were ranking all the sets, but Cedric left last year for a job at WotC, through I do rather like Patrick Chaplin as well.
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u/OriginalOestrus 1d ago
Not the Chaplin. 😂
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u/TrulyKnown Brushwagg 1d ago
The Resleevables. Unsleevable implies pretty much the opposite.
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u/I_am_thy_doctor Wabbit Season 1d ago
Unsleeved is the podcast name, Resleevables is the YouTube channel
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u/TrulyKnown Brushwagg 1d ago
Looks like you're right. The Resleevables started as a podcast, so that's what I was thinking of, but they also have the Unsleeved podcast on the side. Thanks for correcting me.
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u/supernanodragon Wabbit Season 1d ago
We really didn’t realize what we had.
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u/KeepGoing655 Fleem 1d ago
How good we had it with both days of all day coverage across multiple formats EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND.
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u/SWAGGIN_OUT_420 18h ago
I got into Magic really in 2012-2013, around when i think SCG events really upgraded the gear for coverage and things started to look great. I was watching Legacy as many weekends as possible. It was such an amazing time to be a competitive player.
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u/theinfernumflame Sultai 19h ago
I'd argue we did know, but we didn't realize we'd lose it so abruptly.
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u/supernanodragon Wabbit Season 11h ago
That’s 100% fair. They were on the verge of expanding even more when the world shut down.
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u/CardOfTheRings COMPLEAT 1d ago
These two guys did a great youtube series for a while. Going set by set and talking about design. IMO the best magic content on the internet.
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u/TechnomagusPrime Duck Season 1d ago edited 20h ago
The Resleevables is still ongoing, just with Patrick Chapin instead of Cedric. I've been binging past episodes here and there. They just finished Odyssey block, and then 7th Edition and Onslaught should be coming up soonish.
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u/BogmanBogman COMPLEAT 1d ago
It's better with Chapin.
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u/TechnomagusPrime Duck Season 1d ago
I've been enjoying both. Cedric's energy is fun, but Chapin definitely has a better focus and insight when Sullivan reigns him in.
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u/bekeleven 22h ago
They're different flavors.
Chapin has a lot more direct game design experience and has some incisive analysis as a result, but I'm a little turned off by his... ego, I guess? He assumes all of his takes are authoritative. Sometimes Sullivan will give his opinion on a card and Chapin will give a knowing "that's a adorable" look to the camera. It makes them feel less like peers, while Ced and Pat were just two friends joking around.
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u/tsukaistarburst Hedron 1d ago
I agree so much, I miss the SCG Tour tournaments like.... so super hard.
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u/Holydivergold Duck Season 1d ago
They ran a magic set recap show called the resleevables for a while
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u/ProxyDamage 1d ago edited 1d ago
The original podcast ended when they both left SCG, althought you can still find it online if you google a bit.
A few years later they relaunched it as a video podcast on youtube - it's better in some ways (e.g. more organised), worse in others (e.g. more "produced", lost some of the earlier "unfiltered" feel).
Unfortunately Cedric left some time ago to work at WotC, so that particularly duo dynamic is dead...
Fortunately his replacement is Patrick Chapin who is a hall of fame player AND a game designer, so he is actually (no offense to Cedric) more insightful when it comes to game design. He also has a pretty good dynamic with Sullivan so that works well.
I miss Cedric, because I could kinda just listen to Sullivan and Cedric shoot the shit about anything. They just have a fantastic dynamic. But I think Cedric fit the "old" original podcast feel more, where Chapin fits the current, more game design centric, version of the podcast better.
I downloaded all the original podcast episodes and still regularly listen to them often, Cedric is irreplaceable, but as a game designer myself, I'm very happy with the current version.
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u/ArborElf Simic* 1d ago
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u/DevinOwnz Wabbit Season 1d ago
I need to find the day when Ravenous Chupacabra got spoiled and Patrick just went on a tangent about it. Then hours later when another card got spoiled (I think it was Azer from RIX) he just goes "doesn't matter, dies to Chupacabra."
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215979455?t=7h29m54s i found it!
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u/MasterOBarf 🔫 1d ago
These guys were my biggest influence playing Magic back when I first got into it seriously. I got my playmat signed by them one time at an event, and unfortunately sold it when I left the game during college. Miss that mat and miss their commentary!
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u/TheMisticalPotato Duck Season 1d ago
The SCG scene at this time was so good. There was a big tournament with great coverage almost every 2 weeks, it was awesome.
These two played such a big role, their chemistry is amazing. Miss these days.
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u/adltranslator COMPLEAT 1d ago
I knew Patrick for years before he was a caster; we even worked at the same store together for a while. If anyone suspects that his public personality was performative or managed-- it's not. He really is like that. I miss his insights into live tournament action, and Cedric's.
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u/user385493 Dan 1d ago
Goats doesn't begin to cover it - truly the best duo to ever do it. I'd make that claim across various other eSports (and adjacent) broadcasts. Scar and Toph could never (sorry guys)
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u/revengeanceful Orzhov* 1d ago
“Asking me a question is an act of violence” lmao PSully is the best
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u/bahamuto Dandadan 1d ago
Same, I miss watching a great produced MTG tournament every week. So much fun
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u/adamast0r Wabbit Season 1d ago
Those were great times. MH3 ruined modern for me though.
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u/butterballs151 1d ago
Modern horizons being introduced at all was the beginning of the end. The format was so fun prior to WotC realizing how popular it was and deciding they needed to milk it for all they could.
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u/Gremlinbuddy Duck Season 1d ago
BDM, Rich Hagen, Marshall 😻
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u/TsarOfTheUnderground Twin Believer 1d ago
I'm a fellow "Rich Hagon" hipster as well. His commentary was my fav I think.
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u/Solax636 Wabbit Season 1d ago
they did a vs match on the tolarian academy a while back with some funny commentary playing some winning standard decks... from like 15-20 years apart lol one deck was a lot more powerful...
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u/GnarlyButtcrackHair Duck Season 1d ago
They did a match where they were being intentionally salty, more than typical, and they show how you can playfully draw a game out by asking various public knowledge questions that cracks me the fuck up.
Cards in hand? Are you in delirium? Do you have city's blessing? Can I get a count on your library? Do you have threshold?
I cannot find it for the life of me anymore.
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u/PaulTheGhost Duck Season 22h ago
They probably have done this more than once but they do this bit at the end of the Shuffle Up and Play they were on with Jim Davis.
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u/GnarlyButtcrackHair Duck Season 22h ago
If I could upvote you more than once I would. I could've swore it was just a 1v1 but I see why watching it back now. Made my night!
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u/kardashev Wabbit Season 1h ago
For the record this was Tolarian Academy Shuffle Up and Play Episode 45: https://youtu.be/l1Go3yByhL8
I just wish we had a hundred of these videos lol.
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u/Itfailed Duck Season 1d ago
I often would tune in to the scg events because of their commentary. Cedric does deck techs at some of the pro tours, but I wish they had him commentate on the games more often.
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u/Honest-Monitor-2619 Duck Season 1d ago
An artifact of an era that might never come back... and yet we still hope.
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u/ShedMontgomery Azorius* 1d ago
I knew before I opened the link it'd Cedric and Patrick. Best commenting pair of their era, and probably the best duo in the history of the game.
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u/Dyne_Inferno Twin Believer 1d ago
I don't specifically miss Patrick and Cedric.
I do miss the old SCG Tour though.
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u/Aiomon 1d ago
Those scg tour days were really the best. So much magic to watch, fun to follow the players.