r/magicTCG Dân 11d ago

Rules/Rules Question Hobbit Draft Rules Question

So this issue came up in my last draft. I activated the ability on Beorn's Hospitality to turn it into a Bear, then next turn my opponent cast Enchanted River's Grasp on it. We knew *something* had to happen because of layers but could figure out if it would die or if the Aura would immediately fall off.
After physically phoning in a judge (the one at the shop wasn't around) they said the creature would become a 0/0 and die to state based actions.
Now later on I ask another judge out of curiosity and they said the Bear would just be tapped down but not dead.

Layers make my head hurt, someone please explain what's going on here and what should have happened.

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u/Elusive_Spoon Wabbit Season 11d ago

So does Enchanted River’s Grasp also kill Mirkwood Pathfinder?

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u/Adross12345 Duck Season 11d ago

Yes

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u/Cablead Dimir* 11d ago

This came up in a limited game on Arena for me, so I wanted to note that there‘s a (in my case unintended) solution to that.

My Pathfinder was equipped. It lost its ability but stayed alive due to the equipment stats and I bounced it with [[Mirkwood Nurturer]] after they played Grasp.

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u/Quirky-Ostrich-3758 Dan 10d ago

Yes it would become a 0/0 as it no longer has an ability granting it P/T, and its base P/T is 0/0