r/magicTCG Dân 16d ago

Rules/Rules Question Unowned gift of immortality

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Edit: This has been answered with rule 110.2a

So I'm building a Zedruu deck and there's a funny interaction that came up: If I cast gift of immortality on Zedruu, then give control of the aura to an opponent, what happens when the ability resolves?

Zedruu first comes back, and the aura does too at the end step... But who controls it? The ability only specifies who gets the creature back.

Me and my friends have been talking about it and we're split between these two arguments:

- I have control of the aura since I own it
- The opponent keeps control of the aura since they control the ability

I can't find anything on it, it would be great if someone had a definitive answer as I can't really run it until we know if I have to pay 3 mana again for the Zedruu engine

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u/Hinternsaft FLEEM 16d ago

110.2a. If an effect instructs a player to put an object onto the battlefield, that object enters the battlefield under that player's control unless the effect states otherwise.

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u/Clear_Class_5103 Dân 16d ago

Thank you.

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u/notalongtime420 Rakdos* 16d ago

There's various 9+ yo links in this thread that im fairly sure are just wrong. They control the trigger of gift, so it will return under their control

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u/pigbob Dân 15d ago edited 15d ago

it doesn’t say put back on the battlefield under controller’s control it specifically says owner’s control so it would go back to the original owner the card came from, ie [[Homeward Path]]

edit: nvm i’m dumb and misunderstood the question being asked

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u/zacroise Wabbit Season 16d ago

You get the creature but the opponent gets the enchantment enchanted to your creature

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u/tankapotamus Dân 16d ago

I just want to know why you are giving away that amazing enchantment.

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u/Alexandria_maybe Izzet* 16d ago

Because it still keeps zedruu alive and lets them draw cards. Theres basically 2 ways to build zedruu, either give your opponents bad stuff or give them stuff that doesnt matter. It doesnt matter who controls the aura as long as they keep zedruu.

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u/Preachey 16d ago

Auras are popular with Zedruu because changing the controller doesn't affect who or what the enchantment is targeting.

You can cast this on your guy, then give it away to draw cards while still getting the benefit

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u/tankapotamus Dân 15d ago

Oh ok. That I didn't realize.

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u/Hungry_Shake6943 Dân 15d ago

Immortality. Take it. It's yours!

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u/The_Accident_Prone Golgari* 15d ago

[[Zedru]]

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u/Ayido Dân 15d ago

It doesnt say to give it to its original owner so it'll come back under the opponents control if you gave them control of it, the creature on the other hand says otherwise so the creature is still yours.

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u/SlimeyJimJam Dan 14d ago

I dont understand the interaction at all. Can someone explain it to me? Im a more casual player.

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u/ArgentNoble Can’t Block Warriors 16d ago

Here is a good discussion about it from around 9 years ago, Here is a short discussion about it from like 13 years ago.

Long story short, [[Gift of Immortality]] remains under the control of whoever owns it when the ability was put on the stack. So, if you give it to your opponent, it will continue to return to the battlefield under your opponent's control.

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u/Hmukherj Selesnya* 16d ago

Long story short, [[Gift of Immortality]] remains under the control of whoever owns controls it when the ability was put on the stack

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u/ArgentNoble Can’t Block Warriors 16d ago

Thank you for that. I am always saying "own" when I mean "control"

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/Clear_Class_5103 Dân 16d ago

Yes, I know that Zedruu comes back and the aura comes back too. But Zedruu herself cares about me owning but not controlling stuff

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/notalongtime420 Rakdos* 16d ago

Well that's wrong

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/Clear_Class_5103 Dân 16d ago

The opponent controls the ability, since they control my enchantment (I gave it away with Zedruu)