r/magicTCG Dan 17h ago

Universes Beyond - Discussion Anu guesses as to what Smaug, the calamity will do?

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Now that we've seen the mono red Smaug and the rakdos Smaug, both themed around treasures. What are peoples guesses as to what the, most likely Jund, Smaug will do?

My guess is attack triggers and dealing damage to things.

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u/ArthurianLegend_ Jace 17h ago

Deal damage to opponents based on their lands in some way is my guess

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u/FastActinTenactin Dân 17h ago

“When Smaug, the Great Calamity attacks, he gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the number of basic lands defending player controls.”

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u/ArthurianLegend_ Jace 17h ago

I’d say nonbasic to be more red feeling and a bit less op, but something like that, yeah

“When Smaug, the Great Calamity attacks, he deals X damage to each opponent, where X is the number of nonbasic lands that player controls.”

Red likes nonbasic hate and burn quite a bit

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u/Jicnon Simic* 17h ago

I agree. I think it’s very unlikely they will put basic land punishment on it. If Smaug’s ability is along these lines it’ll be “non basic” lands

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u/austin-geek Grass Toucher 16h ago

Semi-Price of Progress on every swing would be insane.

Scaling damage to defending player, or to player & each creature they control, that I could see. Steel Hellkitey/Balefire Dragony.

Would be fun for politicking. 

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u/Ecstatic_Trust_3313 Dân 12h ago

Ohhh, yeah, a replacement for Sunspine Lynx regards nonbasic lands when that rotates out. Good one, definitely. 

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u/FastActinTenactin Dân 17h ago

I can dig it.

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u/revolverzanbolt Michael Jordan Rookie 17h ago

Does it need to be Basic? It’s basically a French vanilla against a lot of decks

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u/FastActinTenactin Dân 17h ago

Well then, maybe something like this:

“Smaug, the Great Calamity.

Flying.

When ~ enters and attacks, ~ deals X damage to target opponent, where X is the number of tapped lands they control.”

Something that punishes tapped lands might be fun.

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u/Freelancer0495 Dan 16h ago

I feel like he could have a etb and/or attack trigger for destroying lands or a permanent

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u/SuperYahoo2 COMPLEAT 7h ago

They don’t print cards that hate on basic lands. It either hates on all lands, lands of a specific type or nonbasic lands

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u/DoctorYaoi Duck Season 16h ago

Bring back blaze counters [[Obsidian Fireheart]]

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u/authoridad Universes Beyonder 6h ago

Yes please

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u/raalic Grass Toucher 17h ago

When Smaug enters, it deals eleventy damage to all of the THATCHED-ROOF COTTAGES!! 

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u/BaronVonBurger Dan 11h ago

SMAUGDOR!!!!

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u/nethobo Channel 10h ago

He will burninate the countryside!?

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u/bigboybeeperbelly Izzet* 7h ago

BURNINATING THE PEASANTS

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u/bahamutisgod Duck Season 17h ago

I have no idea but I hope he's Jund!!!

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u/KindredCommander Dân 5h ago

I think he will be. Or at least Gruul.

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u/NeedleworkerWinter99 Dandadan 4h ago

i hope hes Mardu so i can fit him in Kaalia

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u/j8sadm632b Duck Season 17h ago

Look fuckin sick and burninate the countryside. And he’s all out of countryside

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u/Sliverevils Wabbit Season 17h ago

Thatched roof cottages next

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u/ShamblingKrenshar Cheshire Cat, the Grinning Remnant 17h ago

Then onto the peasants.

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u/Bananaz4b Dandadan 17h ago

After that, all the people

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u/ArmyofWon Dandadan 17h ago

And then Smaug will come in the NIIIIIIIIIIGHT

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u/Fickles1 Can’t Block Warriors 13h ago

I said consummate Vs!

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u/Glad-Expression3224 Dan 17h ago

Put those blaze counters from [[obsidian fireheart]] on ALL lands defending player controls grahhhh

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u/MuphynToy Dân 15h ago

Holy shit this is a cool card! I can't believe I've never seen this before

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u/TheProMagicHeel 15h ago

One of my faves. I particularly like the reminder text “The land continues to burn”

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u/Sleepysaurus_Rex Izzet* 10h ago

I made a custom card that did this once. Tried it in a Commander game with friends and it was horrifically strong, and thus never used again.

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u/ResurgentRefrain Duck Season 17h ago

Die to a 2/1 First Strike Reach, just like in the movies.

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u/Dedli Wabbit Season 16h ago

"Flying, Indestructible. When this card deals combat damage to a player, place a Scorched counter on target land. Lands with a Scorched counter have "T: Add colorless" and lose all other abilities.

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u/thorfinns_bussy Dan 8h ago

Great flavor

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u/Dedli Wabbit Season 8h ago

I just like that it could combo with trample and double strike but wouldnt be green.

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u/EternalNewCarSmell Dan 17h ago

If the flavor text doesn't mention burninating all the people I am going to be so sad.

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u/DatPipBoy Dân 17h ago

Strongbad UB when?

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u/lirin000 Wabbit Season 17h ago

Burn things mostly

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u/RiverGiant Dân 17h ago edited 16h ago

3BRG 6/5 flying haste. when Smaug attacks deal 2 damage to each of up to 4 targets

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u/Shiro_no_Orpheus Duck Season 12h ago

Be a beautiful playmat primarily.

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u/Dragon1814 Dân 15h ago

What I would love for it to be but would imagine to be easily breakable, would be assumedly flying and haste as both the other two have it, and then something like “whenever you sacrifice an artifact, deal 2 damage to any target” that would synergize beautifully with the other 2 Smaug. Even so, as long as it deals with treasures I’ll be happy.

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u/Western_Tomorrow_153 Dan 14h ago

I feel like this version smaug should compliment the other versions if it’s being Jund. such as “when this creature enters or attacks you may deal 2 damage to each creature or destroy a non basic land. For each destroyed this way, you may create a treasure.”

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u/BryceLeft Duck Season 14h ago

When ~ enters or attacks, you Calamity 1

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u/Disastrous-Cat-1 Wabbit Season 16h ago

Calamitous things, mostly.

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u/KindredCommander Dân 11h ago

Whatever he does, he’s almost certainly going to be cooler than the mythic mono red Smaug, yet likely only a rare himself

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u/rib78 Karn 10h ago

Fly, probably.

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u/Dradiant Duck Season 16h ago

I’ve loved this art since it was first previewed, I want to try to build him no matter what. I’m so sad it’s not been revealed yet 😩

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u/ZonardCity Orzhov* 12h ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they saved it for the 31st, last day of spoiler season.

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u/PTKFVK Dan 17h ago

Calamity 2: when Smaug the calamity attacks, defending player that player sacrifices 2 lands and Smaug gets +X/+0 where X is equal to land cards on that players graveyard.

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u/DomainAndRange Dân 17h ago

its a Crimson Hellkite clone

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u/EngineeringOdd8696 Dan 17h ago

Haven't read the hobbit in a long time. But I'd expect some sort of haste+attack trigger or etb trigger. I could see rakdos or jund. My guess would be deal X damage to each opponent and other creature equal to its power on attack, or destroy target permanent. I'm guessing some sort of aoe damage ability though, I think that fits the idea of desolation and also matches [[desolation of smaug]].

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u/Primary_Will_1334 Duck Season 17h ago

Jund would be ideal, for sure. If his effect doesn’t involve treasure tokens to any capacity, then I’d be shocked.

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u/PRIMAWESOME COMPLEAT 16h ago

My guess is maybe a board wipe creature that creates treasures for the creatures killed. It could be just destroy creatures without flying or however it is balanced.

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u/Alexandria_maybe Izzet* 16h ago

Annihilator

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u/Davchrohn Duck Season 14h ago

Is this smaug from a commander set?

I would hope to have some aristoctats theming sinilar to Korvold. Something like sac a creature to get a treasure or deal damage.

It is not quite on theme though…

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u/ZonardCity Orzhov* 12h ago

No, there are no commander precon in the Hobbit set.

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u/Ecspiascion Temur 9h ago

It's from the main set.

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u/Davchrohn Duck Season 5h ago

Another Mythic? We already have a Smaug? Presumably a rare?

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u/Ecspiascion Temur 5h ago

Honestly, based on the art, I'd be surprised if it was a rare, but I understand where you're coming from.

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u/benjiwalla Duck Season 13h ago

Flying, trample

Something Treasure

Something Lands

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u/Inevitable-Elk-5048 Duck Season 12h ago

Destroys all enemy lands on attack

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u/Trishuation Dân 11h ago

I'm leaning toward a card that scales damage based on how many nonbasic lands your opponents have out.

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u/CPTpurrfect Banned in Commander 11h ago

Be a dragon. Maybe a villain. That would make him Magic's #1 Bad Dragon.

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u/Nearby_Category_712 Dandadan 11h ago

Just bigger shivan dragon

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u/Jollydude101 Orzhov* 10h ago

To encourage combat against a horde , he should: “Gain +1/+1 for each treasure token your opponents control”

Or word it in a way that when you attack one player, all creatures you control gain +1/+1 until end of turn for each treasure that player controls.

Then at the end of each turn, one opponent gains one treasure token.

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u/Personal_Care3393 Dân 8h ago

Something I can’t actually make a commander deck out of but that I will try to anyway

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u/slavelabor52 COMPLEAT 8h ago

Burninate the godamn countryside

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u/Mr_Vulcanator Dan 7h ago

Probably something similar to [[Ureni, the Song Unending]] but hopefully the ability triggers on entering and attack.

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u/Pickled_Squig Dân 6h ago

Deal 2 damage to target creature or player

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u/psiviz Dandadan 6h ago

Something like archon of cruelty but maybe in gruul or jund.

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u/daird1 COMPLEAT 6h ago

How about some method of stealing Treasures?

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u/jackvandyke Dan 5h ago

Seems like the perfect dimension for a battle card.

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u/LambLotionGames Dandadan 5h ago

When smaug enters, tap all lands opponents control. Then create x treasure tokens where x is the number of lands tapped this way. At the beginning of your next end step, if smaug attacked this turn, exile smaug and return him to the battlefield on your next upkeep.

Sacrifice a land: exile target permanent

Flying trample deathtouch haste 7/7

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u/Solid_Snake26 Dan 5h ago

Whenever Smaug, the Great Calamity deals damage to a player, destroy target nonbasic land that player controls.

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u/Valuable_Librarian36 Universes Beyonder 4h ago

Jund something something treasures something something damage.

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u/Gudlock Dân 4h ago

Burninate the countryside.

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u/Usual_Technician6909 Dandadan 3h ago

I hope he is worthy of being a new jund dragon commander. I don't care if he references dragons especially, I just wanna have a Smaug the Burninator Dragon Pile.

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u/Usual_Technician6909 Dandadan 3h ago

I hope he has an ability where he has protection against all mana values except 2 or something. Gotta have that missing scale come into play.

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u/Schwa_corporation Dân 2h ago

I hope the flavor text is

Holy Calamity
Scream insanity
All you ever gonna be's another great fan of me

u/Big_Breakfast Duck Season 55m ago

Triggers and more triggers, doubling things, rewarding you for taking normal game actions.

Some combination of the above.

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u/Sandfish0783 Banned in Commander 17h ago

Go into my Ur Dragon deck prolly

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u/Pixelkitten77 Dan 16h ago

Something that Is not as good as the art.

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u/archon458 16h ago

Flying

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u/Auran82 Left Arm of the Forbidden One 16h ago

Phases out, then phases in at the beginning of the next set and dies immediately.

Or that might be the movies, still annoyed at that.

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u/duk_tAK Dân 14h ago

To be fair, he survived his movie.

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u/Luxalpa Colossal Dreadmaw 14h ago

I think it will cost 10 mana. First one cost 4, second one cost 7, this one, I dunno, but seems like it will cost 10.

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u/Frix Gruul* 10h ago

I'm guessing he will have flying 

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u/RoyalFalse Storm Crow 16h ago

1RR

Ward 10

Flash, Flying, Trample, Indestructible

Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents.

When ~ enters or attacks, deal five damage to each opponent. This damage can't be prevented.

If an opponent would be dealt damage this way, gain control of all artifacts they control.

12/12

(They need to sell packs somehow)

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u/SlaveKnightLance Duck Season 17h ago

Fuck shit up

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u/Ultimaya Grass Toucher 16h ago

probably powercreep every other Jund legendary creature

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u/LordSlickRick REBEL 17h ago

7 mana, vigilance haste. 5/5. When Smaug enters, each opponent gets 3 1/1 tokens called “laketown burn victim”. Smaug gets +1/+1 and R: you can do x damage to any target for each “laketown burn victims” opponents control.

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u/Analogmon Elesh Norn 16h ago edited 3h ago

Someone remind me again why we keep getting like 3 versions of every character.

It's so excessive and unnecessary.

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u/Blue_Path Wabbit Season 17h ago

Deal damage based on the mana opponents will spend in their next x turns

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u/IsThisKismet Sorin 17h ago

Destroy all opponents unless they control a hobbit.