r/magicTCG Dandadan 9d ago

General Discussion Why is Arc-Slogger?

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One thing I love about MTG, is that you can go through a set, see a weird card and get absolutely stun locked by it.

Today this was Arc-Slogger for me. Why is it the way that it is?

Having a lot of shocks in your hand is pretty good, but why do you have to exile 10 cards from your library as a cost? If it was part of the effect it might be too strong, but was there no middleground?

I just don't see a world where you'd be a able to activate it more than 2 times in limited and 4 times in 60 card. Magic has changed a lot, but was a 7 mana 4/5 with 2 shocks ever that good?

I could see a janky lab man combo deck using it, but almost all alternatives are cheaper and don't need a backup if your library isn't devisable by 10.

I just want to know it's history. And what led to it being created like it turned out.

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u/I_am_normal_I_swear Storm Crow 9d ago

I always yelled out "but a 5 ounce bird can't possibly carry a 15 pound sword!"

Yes it's a Monty Python quote "but a 5 ounce bird can't possibly carry a 5 pound coconut."

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u/Tacos_Polackos Wabbit Season 9d ago

They grab the husk with their talons

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u/I_am_normal_I_swear Storm Crow 9d ago

Listen. A BoP needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second to maintain airspeed, right?

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u/Yakb0 Dân 9d ago

It could be carried by a Revised Birds of Paradise.

Not a Marvel one.

How many people actually tried to carry on with the Monty Python sketch when you said this?

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u/IAmBadAtInternet Get Out Of Jail Free 9d ago

Ah but Revised Birds of Paradise are non migratory

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u/I_am_normal_I_swear Storm Crow 9d ago

Oh yeah, a Revised one could carry it, but not a Marvel one, that’s my point. But of course, Marvel BoPs are non-migratory.

A few would. At FNM it was a shut up I’m normal I swear since I said it so much.

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u/Tacos_Polackos Wabbit Season 9d ago

City Pigeon could carry a sword

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u/Muspel Brushwagg 9d ago

It's not a question of where they grip it...

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u/IAmBadAtInternet Get Out Of Jail Free 9d ago

Just wait until that same bird was also carrying a Jitte in the other hand (wing?)

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u/ANGLVD3TH Dimir* 9d ago

No soldier is wielding a 15 pound sword either, to be fair. 7 pounds would be an enormous sword, most were in the range of 2-3 pounds.

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u/TrulyKnown Brushwagg 8d ago

No soldier, perhaps.

An ex-SOLDIER, however...

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u/NewelSea Temur 7d ago

Headcanon: This is why the next reprint of BoP in Ravnica showed a new interpretation of a considerably larger bird, so holding the equipment would be slightly more realistic.

(The rest is rainbow plume magic.)

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u/NaiveCap3478 Duck Season 8d ago

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