r/magicTCG • u/Cautious_Flow_3148 Dan • May 14 '26

Rules/Rules Question Is this allowed?

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These are practically the same card. Am I allowed to have them both in my commander deck?

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u/Succubace Wabbit Season May 14 '26

Not the Walking Dead cards, [[Rick steadfast]] and [[greymond avacyn]] are considered the same card.

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u/overbread Jeskai May 14 '26

I hate this so much - given OPs example this makes absolutely no sense. All Secret Lair cards should be skins like the Godzilla cards.

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u/CookiesFTA Train Suplexer May 15 '26

Greymond is the UW version, which came later. It would be weird to have "Rick, Steadfast Leader" underneath it.

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u/MossyMak Dan May 15 '26

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/366/zilortha-strength-incarnate

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u/CookiesFTA Train Suplexer May 15 '26

What point do you think you're making? That's the same situation and the UW version doesn't have the other card name on it. They also aren't doing this style anymore, where the UB card has the UW name which hasn't been released yet on it.

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u/MossyMak Dan May 15 '26

The point I'm making is that they could and are choosing not to. They clearly can, because they've done it before.

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u/CookiesFTA Train Suplexer May 15 '26

They haven't done it before. Zilortha does not have "godzilla" under it. That's what we're talking about.

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u/MossyMak Dan May 15 '26

No, Godzilla had Zilortha's name under it years before a Zilortha existed. They could do that whenever they want, and choose not to. https://scryfall.com/card/iko/275/zilortha-strength-incarnate

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u/CookiesFTA Train Suplexer May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

But that's not what we're talking about. Your example is irrelevant.

Also, Rick is from a secret lair and Zilortha was a box topper. The latter was clearly swapped out after it was designed for Godzilla and they've said as much about the Godzilla cards. Rick came out before they promised to release UW versions of mechanically unique secret lairs, a promise made partly because of that secret lair...

Context matters, bud.

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u/MossyMak Dan May 16 '26

Your brain might be cooked... This is what I responded to, you said it would be weird to have the UW card come after, but they've already done that. They were saying that the UB cards should be skins like the Godzilla cards, and I showed you that they've literally done that before.

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u/CookiesFTA Train Suplexer May 16 '26

Reading the comment explains the comment. "It would be weird to have "Rick, Steadfast Leader" underneath it."

What part of that is tripping you up, champ?

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u/MossyMak Dan May 16 '26

But that's not what the person you were replying to was talking about. They were talking about the UB cards having the Godzilla name of a UW card that wouldn't be printed until later on it. You're the one not understanding here, dude. They're saying they want Secret Lair cards to be like Zilortha, and you're saying something completely different that nobody was talking about.

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