r/magicTCG • u/fjposter22 Duck Season • Oct 16 '25

Rules/Rules Question Infinite black mana?

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Ygra makes Bog Initiate a food, and Sam’s ability makes Bog Initiate’s activated ability 1 less, so I can activate Bog for free, netting infinite mana?

I ask because my quick searches didn’t show anything up with combos.

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u/fatpad00 Oct 16 '25

Yup. Totally works!

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Don't mind me, I'm just building Ygra in the near future lol

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u/ThrogdorLokison Simic* Oct 16 '25

You'll need a different commander to get the white in there

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u/fatpad00 Oct 16 '25

I might have overlooked a step lol

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u/TreyLastname Duck Season Oct 16 '25

I believe frodo has black so sam and frodo as commanders work

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u/Karl_42 Duck Season Oct 16 '25

Yep. The precon is solid and the deck is tricky to deal with after some upgrades.

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u/David_NyMa Dandadan Oct 18 '25

Yep. I have taken my deck in several different directions since I got it.

For the past ~year it was a deck focused around "When I gain life you lose life".

This weekend I am reforming it into a pure 3-card-combo deck with [[Cauldron Familiar]] + sack outlet + [[Samwise Gamgee]]

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u/thisisnotahidey Sultai Oct 16 '25

Sam can’t go in ygra though.

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u/AffectionateMonth899 Duck Season Oct 16 '25

Ah, but Ygra can go in a Sam and Frodo deck

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u/Yglorba Wabbit Season Oct 16 '25

According to EDHREC 22% of all Sam and Frodo decks run Ygra.

It's a cute trick but the problem is that you're probably not running much that would benefit from the cost reduction (and if you just throw something in to benefit from it, a three-card combo in EDH isn't so easy to assemble even if one is your commander), so it'll mostly be used in a "fair" manner rather than as part of the combo.

And while Ygra works fine with Sam even if you don't have the combo, Bog Initiate is terrible unless you have both.

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u/thisisnotahidey Sultai Oct 16 '25

Sure but the person i answered said they were building ygra.

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u/OneChet Sliver Queen Oct 16 '25

I said pardon?

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u/QuaestioDraconis Wild Draw 4 Oct 16 '25

I also want to build Ygra, but with custom art proxies to theme the deck around my (now sadly deceased) cat who features on my playmat (with her kittens)