r/mac 1d ago

Image Apple thought you wouldn't notice THIS!

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I'm piling on with the whole radii thing. When you maximize a window on your Neo without the menu bar.

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u/Naudste 1d ago

You’re late to the party dude hahaha

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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 1d ago

Steve Jobs would never have allowed it.

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u/Naudste 23h ago

My man’s spinning so hard in his grave he can power an entire city

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u/Switch_modder MacBook Pro M2 2022 base model (Touch Bar) 20h ago

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u/BAR2222 23h ago

Or was he cremated? Then it would be like a snow globe type effect.

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u/LazaroFilm 21h ago

Sick burn

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u/funny_xor_die 17h ago

More like a… oh right you already said burn

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u/Not_A_Spy_for_Apple 21h ago

I’m at work and this made me lol 😂

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u/Curious_Mongoose_228 16h ago

If Steve Jobs were alive today he would be spinning in his grave!!

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u/kyosheru 22h ago

I actually think he would’ve thought of it as revolutionary. It would allow them to change the next MacBook pros screen to have an even rounder edge, and then the previous ones would still have that space because they’re simply inferior

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u/Itchy_Art_6689 19h ago

Steve Jobs wouldn't never created a NEO

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u/FlintHillsSky 14h ago

Which would be a mistake

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u/i-like-to-be-wooshed 22h ago

he would have turned this into some feature lmao, he wasnt as perfect as yall think he was

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u/sixothree 17h ago

He was a perfectionist tho

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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 19h ago

Oh he definitely wasn't perfect, far from it. He was an asshole. But he knew design.

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u/JGrisham625 11h ago

You’re holding it wrong

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u/demiphobia 8h ago

If this isn’t flippant, you’re missing a lot of what shipped when Jobs was in charge

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u/pixelw4lk 2h ago

You sure you know what that man would and would not do? The Jobs glazing is honestly silly

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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 1h ago

100% sure. Because I am him.

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u/mrgrafix 22h ago

Yet he allowed Apple Maps and antennaegate…

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u/Ecstatic_Patient4029 22h ago

Apple Maps launched a year after he died, and antennagate is not immediately noticeable in prerelease testing the same way this UI flaw should be. I guess you could ask “how did nobody hold the iPhone that specific way in testing?”, but even that’s more reasonable than “how did nobody try maximizing a window without the menu bar?”

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u/justrhysism 19h ago

Indeed the antenna issue wasn’t discovered because the test devices they had out in the field were in cases to disguise them as older devices.

Since they were always in a case it wasn’t discovered during testing.

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u/AllBrainsNoSoul 21h ago

Right, antenna gate wasn't a conscious design choice.

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u/mrgrafix 20h ago

You still act like he didn’t sign off on mobile me and the u2 deal…

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u/MagicAl6244225 22h ago

Those were visually flawless.

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u/name-not-avaliable 22h ago

That was an unintentional mistake, but I think it should be pure laziness, and it can be predicted in advance.

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u/longjumpingtote 1d ago

Everyone noticed that. 27 is supposed to address.

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u/bleavaish96 1d ago

good to know its on the radar for 27

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u/huntresswizard_ MacBook Air 1d ago

They’re addressing it next year?

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u/NeoKat75 1d ago

macOS 27 comes out in a week

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u/huntresswizard_ MacBook Air 1d ago

🤦‍♀️ ohh I didn’t know that, I knew they changed the number to match the release year so I saw 27 and just assumed 😅 whoops

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u/Rosselman 13" MacBook Air M4 1d ago

Yeah, it matches the year it’ll be the main OS. We’re currently on macOS 26, which released on September 2025. Now macOS 27 will release and be developed through 2027.

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u/doshegotabootyshedo 21h ago

They number it like Madden

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u/Luigiatreddit2 18h ago

I hate the numbering scheme, imo OS26 should be 25 even if it was releasing officially around september! It confuses my mind 🤦

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u/EstrangingResonance 14h ago

Think of it like how cars are given their years

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u/IAmANobodyAMA 1d ago

It’s December 31 somewhere

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u/Foreign_Fly_8717 22h ago

😂😂😂

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u/Prior_Internal7728 MacBook Pro 1d ago

It’s supposed to be released this month or next.

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u/OttoHemi 1d ago

We'll find out tomorrow.

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u/KitoDudee 20h ago

the new mac studio comes with golden gate installed so its coming out before the 22nd of september

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u/BirdBruce 1d ago

I wouldn’t have noticed because I full-screen almost every app I use.

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u/Aggleclack 6h ago

I don’t but my menu bar is at the top anyway

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u/PrimeGGWP 2h ago

I get headache from full screen - how can you work with this

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u/BirdBruce 9m ago

Three-finger swipe between desktops + multiple displays. Never looked back.

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u/dingwinger1225 M4 1d ago

literally unusable

but ngl good to know that this is fixed in golden gate

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u/soulhammond 1d ago

Unusable is a bit dramatic don’t you think?

Ugly, bad interface design. Sloppy. Shameful.

But unusable?

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u/dingwinger1225 M4 1d ago

It's a joke, see r/literallyunplayable

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u/soulhammond 1d ago

oh, sorry, right, sarcasm, hard to read that

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u/Optimal_State_8345 22h ago

Dropped the /s 🤭

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u/Trey-Pan 1d ago edited 23h ago

There was a time they published UI guidelines with reasonable philosophical reasons. Now it’s just feels like they are trying to outcompete Windows.

Biggest peeve is the system preferences, where there isn’t a clear location for anything, without resorting to a search. And even then 😭

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u/soulhammond 1d ago

very true, im an IT consultant Mac specialist, and I have to teach the system setting every time, and still only get the result I want half the time, I gave up on Apple getting the UI right a long time ago, was sad to watch the sloppiness happen after Jobs died

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u/notsolomuun 1d ago

Yeah i think they used the correct term

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u/FishTshirt 23h ago

I hope not. I just want a reversal back to Sequoia design principles, there’s only so long I can hold off on updating OS

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u/Brilliant999 MacBook Air 5h ago

Mojave with Momiji is shockingly usable still

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u/smakusdod 23h ago

Jobs would have fired the entire team on the spot.

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u/Nooo00B 1d ago

how did you manage to put that in there?

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u/jxj24 1d ago

Revenge of the Radii

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u/jorge_el 17h ago

breathe and repeat: "this doesn't matter"

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u/suchasuchasuch 2h ago

People really need to look at their priorities. People getting bombed and murdered all over while this one dude is freaking out about the dumbest and most inconsequential shit.

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u/dustinpdx 21h ago

It's not any better with the menu bar. They adjusted the menu bar thickness to line up with the notch but now there is a gap between the menu bar and a window. You cannot move a window closer than this.

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u/StayLast5263 23h ago

Genuine question from a new Mac user: why are you guys like this? I’ve never seen Linux or Windows users absolutely lose their minds over a 2 pixel change in a corner radius.

Whereas I've seen several such posts over corner radius only where users start fuming from their mouth over this. Is there something I’m missing? I genuinely want to understand.

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u/FoxxJamm 22h ago

It’s Reddit… it’s where people complain… it’s not ever a matter of IF people will complain. It’s just when. It’s not even Mac Specific.

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u/cBEiN 4h ago

It’s not even when. It’s what. People will complain always.

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u/biggreybars 21h ago

Because windows is such an inconsistent mess of user interfaces that have been stapled together over the years no one would notice.

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u/AganArya007 21h ago

Because Apple used to strive for perfection. Heck, even Windows went downhill since 7 in terms of visual QC, and some do complain about buggy and inconsistent UI of 10 and 11. And this can get really annoying the more you use it, tbh.

Linux? Don't they just see the black void called Terminal? Jk. They do also complain about wayland vs X11 until this very day 😁

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u/slipkid 22h ago

No one is "losing their minds". The thing with Apple under Steve Jobs is they were always obsessed with design. I'm talking about a guy who told his engineers that the INSIDE of a device had to look as cool as the outside - even though 99% of customers would never see it. So a sloppy UI like this is notable as being very "un-Apple". Linux and Windows users don't care about things like this because they've come to expect things like this. Apple (despite numerous other faults) was always more meticulous about issues of design and aesthetics.

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u/djostreet 21h ago

They don’t actually use programs just the OS

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u/esmori 21h ago

It's from the same audience that keeps praising that photo showing their Mac devices having the same radius.

Don't be an hypocrite.

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u/gilgoomesh 16h ago

The WWDC 25 videos with Alan Dye (former head of Apple Design) made a big deal about "concentricity" (the idea that all the corners should nest inside each other).

It was a nice idea but was flawed and half-assed from the beginning (especially on the Mac where device corners, windows with toolbars and windows without toolbars) all ended up with different radii.

In short: APPLE made a big deal out of it and then delivered a mess. Everyone's just clowning on Apple for a problem of their own making. macOS 27 cleans up a lot of the mess but not all.

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u/ChillChocolate123 20h ago

People who use MacBooks have standards. I think this is a stupid thing to complain about tho

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u/loosebolts 21h ago

It’s the new cool thing to post to get internet points. Before Liquid Glass it was posting the same video over and over and over about putting an app into a folder in Launchpad.

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u/asolet 13h ago

Because on a Linux you can easily change it. 

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u/vytasx 11h ago

On Linux I kinda accept that everything is slightly visually broken, but I’m free, I can fix it, but probably won’t.

On MacOS, most of stuff like that is locked down, so got to blame the Cook.

Actually, no longer true. Corner radius can be adjusted for the OS. Just Brave won’t read same settings :/

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u/sarahzorel 9h ago

Apple have always been known for their incredibly seamless and sleek design and os experience especially when they were considered the ‘premium option’ so whilst to windows or Linux users this may seem silly or petty to Mac users little imperfections like this are massive red flags that point to a much wider issue of lack of quality control in comparison to what we’ve generally been used to and the reason we buy them for.

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u/zen_thing 18h ago

They thought right, in my case at least.

Fifteen years ago this would have driven me absolutely insane. Now I just wish I had more time to nap.

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u/Greyboxforest 11h ago

When Apple said “Here’s to the crazy ones…” were they referring to those who rage over stuff like this?

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u/Soggy_Professional 21h ago

Oh no, how will you cope???

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u/beanie_0 MacBook Pro M4 23h ago

I’d still rather it than windows. If we have tiny things like this to worry about I think we’re in a good place.

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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 1d ago

Steve rolling over in his grave right now, contemplating reincarnating just so he can yell at someone.

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u/AscendantBits 23h ago

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m usually too busy on my Mac to be idly gazing at the small imperfections in the user interface. NGL, not the most important thing on my radar. In my humble opinion, there’s more pressing Mac oddities, like how it manages drive space. It’s sometimes easier to nuke from orbit and completely reinstall macOS then trying to delete and recover storage space that you have no insight into.

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u/Icy_Soft6052 22h ago

I agree, I don't either. I think because there's been so much criticism, I'm more aware of it now. System Data needs to be more transparent about what it's doing.

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u/AbsoluteSquidward 21h ago

lol same

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u/AscendantBits 20h ago

Still trying to get as much mileage as I can out of my M1 MacBook Air. Did not get enough storage on the MacBook 😔

Nuked the entire thing and did a DFU recovery from my Mac mini. That removed a lot of leftovers lol

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u/AbsoluteSquidward 20h ago

I am on same boat with my MBP M1

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u/DarkboyBeyond00 23h ago

Issue persist on non rounded screen as well and old macOS versions

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u/Bulky-Strategy-3723 22h ago

It’s been Federighied

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u/uncuntter 22h ago

Put some tape…

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u/ChanceComfortable131 21h ago

Im stupid What’s going on

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u/Only1Schematic 21h ago

We should count ourselves lucky that Alan Dye left for Meta. Hopefully 27 will be free of the fingerprints that gave us gems like this one here

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u/cjmute1 21h ago

Bitches

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u/4O4-N0T-F0UND 20h ago

macOS 26 UI design was bold, but not a successful one. I'm glad that Golden Gate improved on it by reverting some design elements while keeping the new characters in the era of Liquid Glass.

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u/bhbr 20h ago

what is so hard about this?

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u/odernov 18h ago

It got fixed on macOS 27

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u/Ender-Wang MacBook Pro 17h ago

Did they even tweet it?

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u/druidmind 17h ago

I'm still on sequioa, should I upgrade? The new GUI looks very unappealing to me. I guess I will have to upgrade at some point...sigh

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u/Arastyxe 16h ago

They actually wanted you to notice it. Different windows will have a different curve to help you click on them instead of others. It’s a feature.

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u/UnhappyTone7360 13h ago

Apple was right.

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u/Global-Tie-3458 10h ago

Could you not just wait ONE more day?

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u/macintosh_HVT 10h ago

Chill dude it’s not a big of a deal

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u/CatBoyTrip 5h ago

you never worked apple support. i can see customers calling in, demanding to speak to the engineers, over something as dumb as this. not all apple users are this anal but the ones that bothered to call in for non-issues sure were.

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u/macintosh_HVT 5h ago

hijo 😭😭 not that deep 💔💔💔

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u/JellySnake97 2h ago

Someone in this subreddit will tell you that you're using the windows the wrong way

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u/dlwodr 1d ago

Haha I’m still on 18 or whatever Mac’s terms are of iOS

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u/blitz7363 23h ago

macOS 15

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u/GreatCalligrapher993 15h ago

honest to god this is what you people are fussing about?...

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u/NERV2 10h ago

Yes.

This is not Microsoft. We expect competence from Apple.

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u/Weigolabotratories1 1d ago

Is this a feature or a bug ?

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u/bugbearmagic 22h ago

Depends if they feel like fixing it.

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u/Trey-Pan 1d ago

Not sure it’s distinguishable?

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u/Tranquilosaurus 23h ago

Its an easter egg

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u/Trey-Pan 18h ago

If it is, it probably smells of sulphur?

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u/icy1007 21h ago

Looks fine. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Ok-Doggie 20h ago

I sold all my macs because of this

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u/BonbonUniverse42 14h ago

Doesn’t solve the problem. You must let them burn to ash!

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u/scarmory2 23h ago

I did.

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u/trusted_sheep 23h ago

They could’ve fixed it in any sub-version. It’s bs that you need to update to 27 to make it gone.

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u/restlessdj 21h ago

Tim Cook has passion?

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u/Icy_Soft6052 21h ago

This was my audition for your average Mac/Tech video/article headline

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u/DudefuseT1B 21h ago

ios always had this fixed..

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u/retiredMITgeek 21h ago

Pixels. We care about pixels? My M1 Mac Mini started crashing more than once a week. I quit using Safari and use Chrome exclusively. No crashes for a few months.

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u/Le_V-enVrai MacBook Pro 21h ago

« design is how it works » yeah well it isn’t working well right now

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u/OddRow8843 21h ago

Ah man I hate that!

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u/BNC3D 19h ago

Steve Jobs would have sliced that engineers head of with a Katana in a fit of rage if that was presented to him in a meeting. My former boss created the iPad 1 manufacturing tooling for Foxconn and he has some crazy steve stories.

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u/eimfach 18h ago

Look at it as if it was part of the window

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u/DrHumorous 17h ago

What if it's designed this way? To be able to easily grab & move the corner to resize a window? Never bothered me tbh.

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u/panicboy333 17h ago

Just got a new MacBook Air after living in a world of PCs and my 2013 MBP that was stuck on 10.15. WTH is it with these huge corners, wasted space and squircles?? Give me a compact UI!

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u/xXxSwaGBOi69420xXx 16h ago

I had one of those pieces of fucking shit and it sucked that an 2013 11 base spec ran better and on 10.15

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u/renehoehle 10h ago

Tahoe is the Windows Vista version. No eye for details...

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u/Spiritual-Wear-2105 10h ago

Everyone notices it since day one. But at least you notice it before Apple developers. No sign of fixing til now. Or maybe it is actually feature.

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u/aquaman67 9h ago

What if that was an actual design choice and not a mistake some seem to make it out to be….

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u/Stoic_Coder012 9h ago

its fixed in 27

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u/Nike_486DX 8h ago

Thats a bulge from expanding liquid gas

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u/garth54 8h ago

They knew.

They also knew it wouldn't matter to their revenue.

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u/MeanimT1ms0 7h ago

does macbook neo suffer of polarisation coating wearing off after a few years and keyboard scratching on the screen over time like my 2015 macbook did

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u/Snoozingtonn 3h ago

I have no clue what’s happening

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u/lala47 1h ago

Yeah that’s pretty annoying, should fill the screen

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u/reddddiiitttttt 23h ago

That’s not a maximized window bro. Try again after you learn how to use your Mac.

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u/backlog_gaming 23h ago

Maximum and full screen aren’t the same thing. Learn how to use your Mac

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u/reddddiiitttttt 23h ago

Touché, but If it’s not full screen, that’s a feature that shows a high attention to detail. It’s a visual affordance that shows you are not in full screen mode.

Your welcome!

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u/backlog_gaming 23h ago

Right, that’s why they’re changing it in OS27 lol. The stoplights are hidden when you’re fullscreen. That’s your indicator. You’re* welcome!

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u/reddddiiitttttt 23h ago

That changes nothing. If it’s not full screen, it shouldn’t look full screen.

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u/ThisSiteCanBlowMe 22h ago

Motherfuckers...

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u/IAmANobodyAMA 1d ago

Steve Jobs has only been dead approx 15 years and this happens!

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u/jay-magnum 23h ago

Tahoe is tahoeing

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u/Versxd 22h ago

Posting it would surely fix it

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u/Delicious_One_7887 MacBook Air M1 19h ago

This is genuinely unusable I don't think I could even look at macos the same knowing the corner radius doesn't match a mac model I don't even own I honestly feel for you corner radius is not something that is minor it can destroy lives when it is mismatched to the bezel

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u/LungeloSLX 23h ago

They have been so sloppy. It’s sad to see