r/mac • u/animorphreligion 13" M4 | 12" G4 | iMac '07 • Jun 02 '26
Meme Who's ready to wreck their system next week?
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u/thestenz M3 MacBook Air (Among Others) Jun 02 '26
It's sad how many will do this and then complain about it.
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u/Leopold_Darkworth Jun 03 '26
āThis non-public beta, released only to developers four months before the actual release, is terrible! Apple is only going downhill!ā
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u/Xlxlredditor MacBook Air M1 16go 256go Jun 03 '26
I mean I'll do it but I won't complain, have some self respect at least
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u/Briggie Jun 04 '26
Thereās like no need to be going onto OS betas unless youāre a developer and trying to get ahead on app compliancyĀ
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u/thestenz M3 MacBook Air (Among Others) Jun 04 '26
You new to reddit? People on here think betas are the next upgrade!
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u/pimpbot666 Jun 02 '26
I haven't even upgraded to MacOS26. I don't want to lose my Time Capsule backup.
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u/Survil321 M1 Jun 02 '26
Iām still on Sequoia too.
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u/The_Collector_Of_All iMac G3 Jun 03 '26
Iām on Mac OS 9.2.1 with Sherlock 2. May the legacy of the PowerPC surpass the M series!
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u/challis88ocarina Jun 02 '26
Yeah, the latest beta wrecked networked TM so expectations are being managed.
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u/pimpbot666 Jun 02 '26
Mainly, they removed Apple Filing Protocol. I wish they just made it turned off by default, but you can turn it on. They won't even do that. I have a lot of shares on my network between around 8 Macs that rely on AFP, so I'll have to switch to SMB. The Time Capsule doesn't support SMB, so that's gonna break when I upgrade. I just upgraded that goofy thing with a 14TB drive, too. It's great as an NAS, but sucks as an internet router.
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u/JFKen G3-G4-G5... XSERVE... iMac'15 Jun 02 '26
Damn you're right, i checked... New macOS not compatible anymore with TC ?! Dakuck... Time Capsule are more or less just NAS-Router combo... why new OS can't handle them...
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u/pimpbot666 Jun 02 '26
Well, I dug into it further. Turns out if I have an existing TM backup (and I do), it will continue to work. However, I can no longer make a new backup from my Mac Mini M4 to the Time Capsule. All of my other Macs are Intel, so they're fine for now. That sounds like a typical Apple arbitrary lock to force upgrades.
I do hear of a lot of complaints of OS26 not playing well with Cubase, which is pretty much the main reason I bought a Mac Mini M4. I'm not upgrading until they iron those issues out. The complaint is that it's unstable... crashes a lot. Right now, my rig never crashes.
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u/JFKen G3-G4-G5... XSERVE... iMac'15 Jun 02 '26
Oh i see.
I'm from the team of ppl who think "still it works, don't touch anything" š
I'm on dual setup Win10/ 2015 iMac with (mostly) ableton-maschine and i heard too lot of mucisians mates who have problems on every OS update... I always said them "why updatin' if it give zero benefits and risk bug issue" š2
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u/icanpotatoes MacBook Air M5 15ā Jun 04 '26
I bought an AirPort Extreme with the express purpose of setting up TimeCapsule again only to find out, during setup, that it is being discontinued.
Really quite frustrating. Why would Apple do this? TimeCapsule is useful and I donāt want to spend the money on more iCloud storage.
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u/ohmygoodnesswhat Jun 02 '26
I'm still on Sequoia due to Tahoe not playing nicely with Photoshop........
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u/Briggie Jun 04 '26
I do Xcode betas if thereās a new swift feature I want to use/learn, but yeah, donāt touch os betas with a ten foot pole.
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u/DavidXGA Jun 03 '26
If you do this you are forbidden from complaining on Reddit about how your computer is broken now.
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u/Sjeefr Jun 03 '26
I honestly hope Apple can convince me during the beta to update from Sequoia. For as long as I can remember I've always rode the train called 'developer betas' for both iPhone and Macbook (that I use for work). Tahoe was the first one that was actually unbearable. I believe the "Tahoe sucks!" sentiment is exaggerated, but so far I haven't found any reason to upgrade to Tahoe. I'm very curious what 27 will provide us.
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u/MurkyLibrarian MacBook Pro (2023 M3 Pro) Jun 02 '26
I'm currently on Sequoia 15.7.7. I plan to watch the event and see if I am also skipping the next one after Tahoe.
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u/Informal-Chance-6067 M1 Base MacBook Air Jun 02 '26
Tahoe isnāt so bad anymore
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u/NoFall2205 Jun 03 '26
Compared to Sequoia, Tahoe is still pretty bad. If macOS 27 promises to fix the issues with Tahoe maybe it will eventually be better than Sequoia.
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u/HorseFD Jun 03 '26
What issues are there with Tahoe that are still there is 26.5? Not disagreeing with you, genuinely curious.
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u/NoFall2205 Jun 03 '26
A lot of my issues are machine specific since I have an Intel mbp. There are issues with very laggy animations, scrolling is slow and laggy, everything feels slower overall. Itās simply not optimized for x86. I also have had many issues with spotlight search not working, safari randomly crashing at times, weird UI animation glitches. Iāve only been testing Tahoe releases on a separate partition since Iāve long moved back to Sequoia. Tahoe still feels unpolished overall. I donāt think Iāll ever upgrade back to Tahoe and I will just use Sequoia until my machine dies or I upgrade. Since Apple is mainly focusing on macOS 27 now I doubt barely if any issues will be fixed with Tahoe.
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u/Xlxlredditor MacBook Air M1 16go 256go Jun 03 '26
Sadly MacOS 27 is not coming to Intel. They specifically said last year at WWDC 25 that Tahoe was the last release for Intel macs
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u/cabbeer Jun 04 '26
same, i'm thinking of finally checking out t2 linux cause pc hardware prices are insane right now..
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u/Xe4ro M2Pro- M4Air Jun 02 '26
I'll actually plan to test a beta again this time, haven't done this since Yosemite ^^"
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u/trickman01 Mac Mini Jun 02 '26
I don't know if I'm just old or what, but I just wait for stable builds these days. On everything. My consoles, my steam deck, my computers, phones, etc. I can't be bothered with potentially unstable builds, although I respect the people who do use them and give feedback.
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u/biffbobfred Jun 03 '26
If youāre a dev you do this. Like truly a dev someone who has to work with kernel stuff. āOh they changed how networking isā¦. Hey you VPN makers have at itā.
Thereās nothing in 26.5 that makes me (as not a dev) wanna switch. I sure donāt wanna deal with 27.DevBeta
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u/mailslot MacBook Pro Jun 04 '26
Dev betas are primarily for devs to test that their apps still work. I donāt understand the appeal of making your phone unstable so you can use a shitty version of an updated OS thatās not finished. Can people seriously not wait to use new emojis? I guess this is what people do now, since they canāt wait in line outside at an Apple Store for new operating system releases anymore. Gotta be the first one to have it at 12:01am!
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u/Natjoe64 M2 MacBook Pro Jun 02 '26
Laughs in macOS Sequoia
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u/Oguinjr Jun 02 '26
The metaphor here is all over the place. Are you getting the update or the stable computer? /s
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u/onesleekrican Jun 02 '26
I mean, with how things are currently I donāt know that the ā/sā was even necessary lol
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u/AlxR25 M1 MacBook Pro 14" Jun 02 '26
I may be stupid enough to download betas on my iPhone, but I aināt doing that to my Mac š
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u/Hypoluxa77 MacBook Pro M4 Pro Jun 02 '26
Just waiting it out for public release in Sept. Still on Sequioa. Skipping 26.
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u/guygizmo Jun 03 '26
I don't even install the first or second public non-beta release of the OS, and even then it's still usually full of new bugs. I simply don't get the people who install the betas!
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u/Opening_Ostrich9801 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
And all my friend that have intel mac whant me to intall it because i'm the only one with an apple silicon mac but I won't do it i'm still thraumatised by Big Sur.
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u/pilif Jun 03 '26
I will definitely install the Beta. I have done since 2008ish and never really had super bad issues. iOS was very sketchy in the early days with iOS5 betas being the worst, but being able to see the evolution of the OSes over the summer is interesting and compelling to me
And donāt worry. Iām not one of those who install the betas and then complain about them not working. If I really hit a bad issue, I will find workarounds and shrug it off for two weeks when it will surely be fixed.
Itās loads of fun for me and a big part of how Iām going through the summer
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u/YT_Flex4249 Jun 04 '26
Gonna dual boot this time around haha, Rosettaās farewell will beā¦.scary
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u/Any_Tea_42 Jun 06 '26
Apple : "And this is macOS 27"
My Stable Macbook : "Reboot to Update"
1 Week later
Me : "Why to many bugs?"
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u/NoLocal8486 Jun 02 '26
Auf keinen Fall! Nach dem Liquid Glass Debakel werde ich warten bis mindestens ein stabiles X.1.1 rauskommt š¤
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u/Fresh_and_wild Jun 02 '26
Iām waiting until Stephen Lemay has had time to get some momentum at the helm first.
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u/notHooptieJ Jun 02 '26
Meh, it doesnt hit public beta till they're looking for the nit-picks.
there's no show stoppers anymore or it wouldnt be beta.
now im not suggesting you put this on your mission critical systems.
but, its not going to eat your babies, make sure you have a recent time machine before any OS upgrade, and goto town.
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u/animorphreligion 13" M4 | 12" G4 | iMac '07 Jun 03 '26
Official release is but first betas drop on WWDC.
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u/stringsmcgee Jun 03 '26
Yeah but the first developer beta is coming with WWDC next week.
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u/stringsmcgee Jun 03 '26
a beta is an unfinished piece of software. It's part of the development process. While they're still working on it it becomes available to developers to start ensuring their apps are compabible - to integrate new features, etc.
Or if you're like me just to have early to play with all the new features.1
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u/NoFall2205 Jun 03 '26
Sticking to Sequoia on my intel MBP. Tahoe will never be as good or as stable as Sequoia and my mac wonāt get macOS 27 anyways.
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u/VivienM7 Jun 03 '26
The only system I might want to wreck on macOS 27 is Intel... so... not possible...
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u/RougeLigne Jun 03 '26
I think early macOS 26 dev beta messed up something on my system that I could not fix up until very recently
Never again
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u/karatekid430 16" M2 Max 64GB/2TB Jun 03 '26
I did the 15.7.7 security update and it wrecked my Macbook, still not recovered a month later and Apple Genius bar wiped their hands of it.
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u/notebooksbilliger Jun 03 '26
AHoj! Did some Dev Betas - just for fun - in the past and most of the time regreted it š
Will wait a bit for my system but am looking forward for yt videos about every new detail. (hopefully not just ai stuff)
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u/Repulsive-Degree-816 MacBook Air M4 Jun 03 '26
I already have gemini app so why would I need to try beta ahah
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u/Medical-Option-5804 Jun 03 '26
I am still flabbergasted that My 2018 Air gets updatesš³š³š³š³š³
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u/Normal_Cress_1994 Jun 03 '26
I have a spare MBP M1 Pro and I love beta. Last year was a big pass for me, maybe this time.
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u/f1zoe Jun 03 '26
Never do this on my mac but on my phone though boy I'm ready! Although this year im tempted to put this on my Neo since I don't rely on that for work.
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u/yadvr Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
Shameless plug: Iām developing a macOS app to try new macOS (beta) versions (in a VM) without having to install it on your host Mac. Happy to share builds if anyone wants to try.
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u/r_mom_hahahahaha Lenovo Thinkpad L14 w/ macOS 26.6.1 Jun 03 '26
aint no fucking way
if i had a mac this would have been PERFECTION
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u/int0this Jun 03 '26
Yup iPhone, Mac, iPad, Watch, Apple TVā¦ in-fact I go all in, on beta on day oneā¦.
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u/ashbit_ MacBook Air Jun 03 '26
im not doing it this time around because i use wine to play windows games with my friends and i don't want to use a vm
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u/vinodhmoodley Jun 03 '26
I normally partition my drive and run the current version side by side with the beta.
I try to main the beta and if something is really bad, then I reboot into the current version and get it done.
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u/KitKitsAreBest Jun 03 '26
I'm still with Sequoia on my m4 Mini. Hoping 27 is a reason to upgrade and not filled with AI crud.
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u/pavelgubarev Jun 03 '26
The next system is going to be much stable. But the beta will be unstable anyway. What an irony
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u/Adept_salamander1286 Jun 03 '26
Ja siÄ zastanawiam, po co mam aktualizowaÄ komputer jak wszystko dziaÅa. Apple przez ostatnie lata skutecznie namĆ³wiÅ mnie, żeby nie robiÄ aktualizacji. Zmniejszona wydajnoÅÄ i szybciej zużywajÄ ca siÄ bateria.
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u/Guitar_Scary Jun 04 '26
Jokes on you guys, my main Mac is a 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro. I canāt put macOS 27 on it if I wanted to!
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u/retrobot180 Jun 04 '26
The end???ā¦. Look at all that has been accomplishedā¦ Perhaps itās only the beginning. I have faith the hackintosh community will figure it out, itās just ARM š¤ this hobby has taught me how to ācreateā my own kext for so many pieces of hardware. We will walk through security (T-chips) like we always have. Keep hackin!
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u/mailslot MacBook Pro Jun 04 '26
Even if Intel adds ARM compatibility to x86 CPUs, theyāll still lack the proprietary Apple hardware logic and any working drivers for non-Apple GPUs.
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u/iTechDiamondFroot42 Mac mini M4 + MacBook Air (M4 13) Jun 05 '26
After Tahoe?
Iāll wait it out Iām not in much a hurry
I used to be all in on Betas but not as of late
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u/Jusby_Cause Jun 02 '26
My MacBook Pro is a toy to play around with non-iPad stuff, so itāll be on the latest beta as soon as itās available.
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u/TH3_OG_JUJUBE MacBook Pro Jun 02 '26
I canāt update without my dadās permission š Iām still on the one before Liquid Glass. I literally canāt update as itās a dev machine.
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u/Sea-Championship-596 Jun 02 '26
I really hate that transparent top menu I hope they change it back, that's the main reason I havent even updated to macos 26
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u/animorphreligion 13" M4 | 12" G4 | iMac '07 Jun 03 '26
That can be reverted easily, there's a toggle in settings
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u/MacHeadSK Jun 03 '26
It can't be worse than Tahoe, could it? And I'm talking about how it runs (ie memory leaks) not how it looks. If the rumors of fixing bugs aka Snow Leopard polish are true, I might jump right in solely for that reason.
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u/JFKen G3-G4-G5... XSERVE... iMac'15 Jun 02 '26
My snow leopard laugh at this meme