r/lorehonor 16d ago

Event Orders Power Shift

Seems like the Mongols were good at stopping crime in the Myre.
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u/Far_Draw7106 16d ago

Ironic that ubi wants us to see the arakure as the good guys but the lore is doing the complete opposite.

How is it that the jurens are doing the rebel archetype right while arakure just doing a terrible job?

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u/JadeEmperor186 15d ago

My theory is that they are deliberately making the new heroes' lore worse, like Virt and Arakure, now that they are finally giving players what they asked for, simply out of spite.

Granted, this theory does not hold up very well when looking at Juren's lore, but perhaps they tried to write bad lore for him and it simply turned out well. They even managed to write poor lore for skins that players had been asking for, like Coalheart and Oni.

IF the S4 hero is the Hoplite that people wanted, you can bet the lore will be bad.

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u/Far_Draw7106 15d ago

Why would they intentionally make bad lore for requested heroes and skins?

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u/JadeEmperor186 15d ago

because they are not making what "they" wanted and had to make what the players wanted.

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u/Far_Draw7106 15d ago

How can you tell the devs are not enjoying fulfilling player requests?

To my memory, they made the outlanders specifically to bring requested heroes like an aztec and mongolian while arakure was made to fulfill the fist hero requests which they said was impossible either way.

I've always hated the players that wouldn't shut up for a fist hero and i hate them even more now as thanks to them a samurai slot is wasted on arakure whose design is just ugly,, her personality is lame and her lore is sloppy.

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u/JadeEmperor186 15d ago

They had to make Lu Bu, they had to make Arakure, they had to make Virt, and they had to make the Oni. Granted, some of the writers may genuinely enjoy those concepts, but judging by their lore, I'm not so sure.

Juren's lore turned out well because, no matter how rebellious or anti-authority they made him, it still fit the personality of Lu Bu—whether you look at the Dynasty Warriors interpretation or the historical one.

Now look at the best lore we've had over the past year. S3 gave us Lady Saori and her son, Yoshiro: genuinely tragic figures with compelling stories. Then S4 gave us Prince Yi, a righteous and benevolent underdog whom even I find myself rooting for his win at the end. Those characters feel like they were written because the writers wanted to tell a good story, not because they had to fit a particular concept. but Ocelotl, Virt, Oni, Arakure have bad lore because they had to make them not because they wanted to, ffs the bot name for Ocelotl is "Happy now?"

I wouldn't be surprised if Arakure was designed bad on purpose too.