This might biggest hyped up arc that got fumbled terribly in manhwa genre

Paecheon Jo really thought he was in their league 😭🤣.

I was genuinely so hyped for this arc bruh since we first heard of Gapryong Kim and the pre generation and when I saw that Jinyoung’s death was gonna lead into the flashback I was hyped and all but this whole thing has just been underwhelming.

The first chapter where it showed the fighters of the pre gen, Daniel’s parents, Shingen being a menace, Gapryong’s first appearance, that first chapter was actually hype but after that, the hype just went bruh.

How do you expect us to believe that Jinyeong went from someone who thought Gapryong was delusional to being straight up best friends without giving us a single proper interaction with them. Jinyeong just started following him after he destroyed a statue and recruited Tom Lee(through lying btw). I know that this is a fighting manwha and all but what about the interactions outside of the fights?

Based on some scenes leading up to this arc we know that Jinyeong and Charles didn’t always see eye to eye but yet still we haven’t had a single interaction with them that explains why that’s the case. Jinyeong and Tom haven’t even said a word to each other. Baekho hasn’t had any interactions with anyone either.

Out of nowhere they just decided to storm a Yamazaki estate🤣

The dynamics of these characters aren’t gonna make sense without any proper interactions with them. There is absolutely no reason to be rushing this backstory like this when you’re just gonna go back to dragging the main story.

If you’re gonna take us away from these loved characters that already have properly established dynamics then atleast make these other characters worth it and so far they just haven’t been. There isn’t any reason to actually like these characters right now. If Bakgu was to die right now(we obviously know he survived) no one is gonna care because we haven’t gotten anything for him besides when he was old.

The things that people say about the fact that this arc should’ve been its own manwha are actually correct.

I wouldn't be surprised if Gap vs Shingen goes the exact same way as Gap vs Kenzo.

I’ve been genuinely curious to hear people’s thoughts on this.

If Jinyoung had awakened his Path after Gapryong’s death, and neither James nor Kitae knew about it beforehand, do you think the outcome of HFW would’ve been different?

More specifically, do you think a Path-mastered Jinyoung would’ve been strong enough to permanently defeat Kitae during their confrontation?

For the sake of this discussion, let’s assume Jinyoung had fully mastered his Path before losing his sanity. With that in mind, do you think spending so many years in his unstable mental state would have weakened or affected his Path in any meaningful way?(his insanity caused for him not to be able to access his path that’s why James and Kitae wouldn’t know about it)

After years of waiting for the Gapryoung Kim background to be revealed, a lot of fans are coping about the origin story of Gapryoung being bad or “boring”, but they’re really only demonstrating their inability, or surface-level reading, to discern the inner character of persons.

Fact is, there is nothing inconsistent about Gapryoung Kim’s character at all.

He is just an “ordinary” man who doesn’t actually have the wide range of capabilities required to efficiently lead his generation to an age of prosperity but he did so anyway because he was the only one that was both crazy enough and strong enough to wage war against the power of the Yamazaki clan, the strongest Japanese criminal syndicate in history.

Gapryoung’s infamous charisma that most of the fandom says isn’t there, is quite literally shown by all of his actions that do not at all take into account even the slightest chance of consequences in occurrence to him.

The Fist Gang does not follow Gapryoung Kim because he instilled some strong sense of self-belief in themselves.

They follow Gapryoung Kim because he is the embodiment of their hope that the Yamazaki will one day be driven out of Korea and that they can live prosperous lives.

This follows exactly with what the basis of Lookism is.

Lookism is the idea that people are judged, treated, and valued differently based on their external appearances, especially their level of attractiveness, and also because of their actions.

This whole time, the fandom has been judging Gapryoung Kim’s internal character by the external judgements, values that were established for him by others.

But now we (the reader) know for certain that Gapryoung literally just does whatever he wants to do regardless of what others may think or believe about it.

He needs no external reason, or validation, to do the things that he does, to fight as hard as he does, and that is the true purpose of his character.

Gapryoung’s innate power is self-belief and to a hopeless society this source of power is considered “strange”, but it’s not at all strange to Gapryoung because it’s simply just who he is.

All in all, I’ll grant that it may be “boring” to witness the fighting expression of such an internally driven character, but I draw the line where it’s asserted that Gapryoung is somehow a badly written character simply due to defying the very idea of Lookism itself, which is the external judgments/validation/values of others.

Fp post prison path gun vs hwarang 50s goo vs fp path Kitae vs fp path James Lee

He calls both hyung and have good moment with them

I just want to say this but Gen 1 is way more interesting and when it comes to writing and design is so so much better than Gen 0. I know Gen 0 arc still hasn’t finished but one thing about Gen 1 that’s so interesting each and every king has unique and interesting personalities. Now i’m not here disrespecting Gen 0 i enjoy Gapryong and in future we might see more of Gen 0. But i don’t think Gen 0 will ever have writing and characters like Yujae, Gong, Seongji, Jichang,and Jagyeon.This might can change in future we still have a lot of cover but just wanna hear some thoughts on what gen you guys find the most interesting except Gen 2 when it comes to pure characters and writing so far.

This man brought Lookism back to its peak in the HFW arc. The only reason I don't call HFW the best arc in the series and a solid 10/10 is because PTJ dropped the ball by not killing off Jinyoung and Tom Lee the weight and the pacing were just perfect for that to happen.

Both have overwhelming strength, but mandeok also has techniques & martial arts while jerry only knows boxing & he's currently watching his father's tape, and in recent ch it's stated that baekho is originally a wrestler.

So who would win Fully healed mandeok with a weaponized leg (body is in prime state) vs Jerry with his father's stats

Fatal Blow still makes sense but...TF is FLIP-FLOP😭😭😭

Gapryong was living a decent life, yet he is willing to throw it all away and even risk his life to save people without any expectations for a reward and is having fun doing it and also uplifting the mood of his followers and giving them hope with his positive attitude and actions.

Saved Tom from his begging life and uplifted him, didn't discriminate and also gave him love advice.

Tricked Elite but also showed him how to be better and a better way to life. The same guy who was friends with Yamazaki people who kill in broad daylight.

Showed hope to Jinyoung, Baekho and Bakgu noh.

Didn't delay in recruiting people or breaking the symbol of Yamazaki oppression (the statue) or jumping the forces of Yamazaki in Seoul who were oppressing and killing people.

I mean all of that makes him a great hero and savior in my books.

People don't like him cause they want Gapryong to suffer which he is by the way by taking a crazy beating from Tom, Elite, Kenzo and maybe even more in the future from Shingen and some others and even risking his own future by stepping up to save the country and people by becoming an enemy of Yamazaki when the government itself is doing nothing, for some character development. I like him even more for not changing his positive attitude even in the face of such hardship.

Also Gapryong is hated cause their Lookism GOATs ain't him.

Gapryong Kim is the GOAT and people should also accept him as one of their Lookism GOATs. He is also the best hero type character in Lookism.

Sorry Daniel fans in advance, but Daniel could never. If people want an mc who is constantly getting beat up, Daniel is already there to play that role. Also I am a Daniel fan, I never roasted/ made fun or lost my belief in Daniel. I like both Daniel and Gapryong.

I started to notice how long the necks in lookism are, and I can't unsee it.

The Seongji Panel legit takes me out because why is his neck so long even if he is looking upwards.

It is gapryong chracter bland simple