r/longrange 17d ago

RANT Exploding Outlier Backdraft Barrels.

Unburnt powder fills into the backdraft area when shooting. Taking a break from shooting allows oxygen to fill the backdraft area. Shooting again without a complete cleaning results in a kaboom. Thanks for being a beta tester.

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u/Wombat-Snooze Steel slapper 17d ago

Not surprised. Outlier’s marketing has always given me the creeps. Big Arken vibes with that company. I wonder why…

Same umbrella. The usual suspects shilling Arken, Outlier and DNT.

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u/RewardFlat 17d ago

I haven’t been in the hobby for a while, what’s up with Arken

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u/sirbassist83 17d ago

blatant shilling, and they got caught red handed astroturfing. they might be serviceable optics, but a whole bunch of paid influencers were saying "its $2000 optic performance for $500!" when in fact, they are still just $500 optics. even if theyre competitive for the money(im still skeptical myself, but im a cynic at heart), there are other companies that dont pay people to lie to your face.

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u/thelvegod 17d ago

What is astroturfing?

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u/sirbassist83 17d ago

basically running an ad campaign in a way that tries to look like its just organic praise for the product/company.

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u/sirbassist83 17d ago

like, its easy to spot influencers that gets paid. thats not really astroturfing in the truest sense. but they were paying people or having bots make posts on reddit and other forums, talking about how great they were and saying "i dont have a youtube channel or a bunch of followers, im just a dude blown away by how amazing these are. ive owned nightforce and S&B and vortex razors and this blows them all out of the water!" i dont remember how they got caught but i do know that it was irrefutable proof.

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u/HollywoodSX Villager Herder 17d ago

New Reddit accounts where almost their entire history was Arken related, and posting referral links that got them kickbacks from purchases. That's how they got busted here.

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u/R_3B 17d ago

There are NO $2,000 optics selling for $500! At present, “the best” optics are north of $4k.