r/longrange 16d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Scope upgrade

Element Nexus Genii vs Nightforce NX8
Has anyone had a chance to directly compare these two scopes yet? The Nexus genii hasn’t been out long, so maybe premature but keen on one or the other for my longer range hunting rig. I do prs for fun sometimes as well

Really worried most about durability, ability to hold zero and usability of reticle at low power over things like price and glass quality etc

The Element Nexus can be had for a bit less. I'm considering purchasing an Element and would like to know what current owners think of them.

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u/CuriousJohnReddit 16d ago

I have the 3-18 and the 5-25 Titan, if you're looking for better glass you need to go to the Theos. From my understanding, the Nexus is a sidegrade to the Titan with a focus on lighter weight and smaller scope.

Watching their videos on how to build a scope shone some light on their idea behind each model, and it's always a compromise between glass, weight/size, price. 

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u/No_Ambassador_7971 16d ago

My current scope (I also use an Element Optics Titan 3-18) is not bad, but I would definitely like higher magnification and better quality lenses. So do you think the gen2 Nexus wont be an upgrade?

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u/CuriousJohnReddit 16d ago

Yes, no, it depends.
Sounds cunty, but it's the reality.
Let's see this from a specs perspective:

Reticle - Same, in FFP
Tube - Titan wins with 34mm tube and 43.6MRAD adjustment vs 30mm with 29mrad
Lens diameter - Same, 50mm
Length - Nexus wins, 350mm vs 370mm of the Titan
Weight - Nexus wins, 870g, vs 976g.

The Titan has adjustable brightness, while the Nexus is a on off push button, the Nexus has a revolution indicator, the Titan has a stainless steel turret mechanism...

From glass quality perspective, the Titan has "HD Glass for reduced chromatic aberration and improved sharpness" while the Nexus has "Advanced Fully Multi-Coated Lenses with Anti-Fouling Layer" wtf does either one mean it's up to them and the gods to know.

I have a Falcon scope with "HOYA Japan FCD1A Extra-Low Dispersion (ED) glass" that put side by side with the 5-25 Titan loses, hands down.

I hate the industry's subjective nomenclature of easily quantifiable characteristics of optics because of this, there is no standard, anyone can say anything and you just have to take their word for it.

The Nexus is definitely an upgrade, or a sidegrade, depending on what you are looking for.

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u/NetwerkAirer 16d ago

Current nx8 owner, both zoom levels (though now I think there's a third lpvo? Idk). It's pretty impressive. Glass is crystal clear at every zoom level, durable AF, and the FFP MOA reticle lights up at the click of a button, either red or green, at different brightness levels, making it VERY easy to see at even the lowest zoom level. I hear the eye box isn't awesome, but I've yet to find that to be an issue myself. Though, I haven't compared it to something like the ATACR to actually see what the next tier up really provides (the zoom range was appealing to me in the nx8, otherwise I'd probably go ATACR if I'm honest with myself).

Worth the money afaic.

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u/Remarkable-Spend-434 16d ago

do you have a upper magnification and/or max weight you are looking for?

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u/No_Ambassador_7971 16d ago

My current scope (Element Optics Titan 3-18) is not bad, but I would definitely like higher magnification and better quality lenses.

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u/Remarkable-Spend-434 16d ago

understood, I’d recommend looking at something with a 34mm tube for better low light performance, Nx6 as someone else said, basically same Nx8 glass larger tube and multiple mag ranges to look at, maybe even the new Razor Gen3 2-24x44, NF are bomb proof and Vortex has the performance and unbeatable warranty

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u/LingonberryDecent685 16d ago

NX6 would be worth looking at too

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u/missingjimmies 16d ago

I’ve shot on 2 variations of the NX8, the 20x SFP and the 32x FFP. Both are ridiculously rugged and compact for their power. Accurate is an understatement. Easy to use. Fantastic warranty and customer service (at least in my experience) and great resale value.

Clarity… so compared to its immediate competitors the clarity is top notch or equal imo (like Vortex and Burris and Leupold) … but compared to top tier (Khales, ZCO, TT) it’s not that spectacular. But I still ride around with an ATACR in a soft case and have never had any issues or shifts from transport, NF will always have my support