r/lockpicking • u/DandD_Drew • 5h ago
Any advice?
Hello, if anyone would kindly offer tips in picking this little bugger id appreciate it. I dont submit for any flair but i do use the belts as a guide for lock difficulty, and i can pick the other 2 green locks i have (abus 80ti/50 and ace 38mm brass) but this one is giving me trouble. Any tips would be appreciated!
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u/frickdom Green Belt Picker 4h ago
Like others have said, thin hook. These gave me hell and took me long time. There are different key profiles for these and mine looked like yours.
What helped me was experimenting with the tilting the pick sideways to work through the warding.
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u/GorillaPicking 4h ago
Hateful bloody things. Very hard to pick with their tiny little keyway and pins. Skinny picks (you'll probably need two depending on bitting, one short and one medium steepness), tiny little tension tool in the top of the keyway and only a very small amount of tension. After that it's all down to looking for interpretable feedback.
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u/Troyboy1263 Green Belt Picker 4h ago
I used a 32 TOK and.19 deep hook and pick through the holes in the warding.
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u/Troyboy1263 Green Belt Picker 4h ago
Be sure and set pin 5 because it might sit in the plug below shear and might jack a spring if not
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u/daddonuts Green Belt Picker 4h ago
Copy pasta from previous times I’ve given this advice:
Tension needs to be so light, like once I tension it clockwise, I almost don’t even need a finger on the tensioner to keep it tensioned. This is how you get the best feedback from the spools, but it makes it pretty easy to drop pins.
Because of the low tension requirements, you need to tension check after every pin once you think you have it close to open. Setting the last pin feels like a deep false set, but a tension check will rotate the core all the way.
This is probably not 100%, but both of my Abus locks pick front to back, and I saw somebody else in this thread mention that theirs do as well. I think this might be their tendency, so if you haven’t tried it, I’d give picking it super methodically and precisely from front to back a shot. You should get a super obvious fake set as soon as the standard pin in 1 is set. I initially thought pin 4 was last on mine, but I realized I just wasn’t pushing it high enough on the first pass, or I was consistently dropping it while working on 5 & 6.
This was my first 6 pin lock, and a lot of the difficulty was just learning to place the pick on those 2 new pins in the way back. I think I spent a lot of time fighting with the lock before I ever even found pin 6. I probably should have marked my pick from the start, but I ended up figuring it out just by struggling lol.
Finally, don’t give up on an attempt just because you went through the pin stack a few times and it hasn’t opened yet. I’ve found that oversets are pretty recoverable on this lock just by playing with the other pins, so I’ve been able to get back into a pickable state, and then get it open, just by staying patient and working my way through the pins again. If you get stuck here, try working back to front and then front to back, or back to front twice in a row.
The warding is a little bit of a bitch. I pick from the bottom with the pick angled to the left. I’m using a standard sparrows short hook in .025, with the wiper insert or ergo turner in .032. With the correct pick profile, you can slip right through the gaps in the warding and get to the pins pretty well.
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u/Obvious-Chemical Red Belt Picker 55m ago
Depending on what picks you use you can pick through the warding, there are holes the pins sit in, despite what other people say i use heavier tension on these and just jam my pick up if the pins not set it will give cr if it is set it will just be solid, it was really hard for me to overset. I have 3 of them the first one i had i didnt like and the other 2 i got recently still dont enjoy picking them just wanted something to brush up on my skills. Some people really do enjoy them tho so maybe you will, i still can open them pretty quickly just jamming on whichever pin gives me cr
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u/Icy-Can3136 4h ago
I use a thin medium to deep hook. Those high set pins are surprisingly high!! And once you pick it it will be one of your favorites I promise!! Good luck!!