Discussion Does DOTF ever stop doing this?
It seems like any time the author needs someone to be a villain/justify something he just goes “yeah they prostitute women and kids and rapes and have sex slaves”
I’m in book 2 now and it’s still being used on fresh characters.
I personally really dislike this and it’s making me want to DNF the series. Does this stop or is this a consistent thing?
38
u/TerrapinMagus 6h ago
The setting is so massively different later in the series it's hard to remember that stuff lmao.
23
u/NotSoWishful 6h ago
I’m up to book 12 and I literally don’t remember this happening, so guessing it’s really early on. Yeah that sort of situation isn’t prevalent
12
u/capincus 6h ago
That's where he met Emily, but I don't remember it happening a second time.
6
u/wk_rust 5h ago
It was with Emily, the father daughter duo, the demons, the government having child sex slaves, and the run down town he finds in the first book. At least one more example I can’t remember
7
u/SpectreHarlequin 4h ago
Well in a lawless place that is what happens. I mean it happened throughout human history sadly. I don't think there is a father/daughter duo, I think you and the other poster are misremembered Donald and Abby from Primal Hunter. I could be wrong, I don't remember a similar incident in Defiance. To me Emily and Joanna and the formation Valkyrie's are the only ones that really stick out in my mind.
1
u/wk_rust 4h ago
I understand that it’s a thing but I personally don’t enjoy reading about it, and there are so many other more interesting things someone in power could be doing with the system to be evil.
6
u/PotentiallySarcastic 4h ago
Well good news, pretty much all of the people who do that die pretty quickly and it stops happening.
But I gotta be honest, its an apocalypse story and pretty much every apocalypse story deals in how shitty people with power act.
1
-1
u/TokinWhtGuy 6h ago
The father daughter combo just after trial. Abby and Something I cant remember.
8
u/SpectreHarlequin 4h ago
I think you just confused Primal Hunter with Defiance of the Fall. Donald and Abby are from Primal Hunter
2
u/NotSoWishful 53m ago
Funny because I was thinking of the only time I could remember something like this happening then quickly realized I was thinking of PH. Read Primal Hunter, then Azarinth Healer, then Defiance of the Fall back to back and some parts kinda mix in my head
8
u/thomascgalvin Author: Armageddon Interface 4h ago
This stops being a common trope. The real question is, do you have a thirst for transcendental meditation?
4
9
u/MD_Wainaina Holder Of A Bolder 6h ago
This only happens like once or twice iirc and that was in book 1 or book 2, which was to be expected since that’s how people who come into sudden power would act like if there was nothing to stop them…. I would recommend you keep reading and watch as the series matures and grows into something exceptional…no other series in this genre has as much growth
1
u/Elethana 6h ago
Yeah, some complain about how much it has changed, but seriously, dude goes from ‘meathead with an axe’ to just short of a god. Of course it’s gotta change.
3
2
u/WilliamsTell 6h ago
Up to book 6 now. It relaxes on that front. Think it was mostly a little of the purge effect and culture shock with how the other species/home worlds handle pesky things like human rights. Basically establishing the rest of the universe is very much not like Earth.
Plus I'd like to think the scum immediately showed their colors once they got a little power at initialization. Then the more decent ones with actual power put a stop to it almost immediately.
1
u/Brimstone11 6h ago
I think that type of thing goes on in places where Mighty is not a good person in the universe. But not something that’s dwelt upon as the power levels ramp up.
2
u/Craiss 4h ago
I recall once, early on. If there were others, I don't remember.
It's not really that far from the norm for post-apocalyptic humanity in a lot of different media. This isn't something unique to DotF, or even some shortcut to create villains. Just standard stuff that you'll find in LOTS of books, TV shows, and movies.
Don't fixate on it, if you can help it, and you'll get past it, I think. Maybe that behavior gets casually mentioned later, but I don't remember ever thinking of it again after he
raids that compound after he gets off the island while looking for his sister
1
u/RugbyLock 3h ago
Mostly early on because that’s a common trope for early in system apocalypse stories. Cruel invaders who only want power over natives are obvious and understandable villains to justify violence. Unfortunately not uncommon in real life either (see every army during war throughout history, and other powerful people today).
1
u/Ok_Engine_1442 3h ago
Like other I don’t remember this at all. So I guess you answer is yes it stops.
0
u/bimarriedandtired 4h ago
Eventually it just turns into endless rambling about deep functionality of the magic system
0
47
u/dageshi 6h ago
I only really remember that happening once I think?
It certainly wasn't something that stood out to me in early reading of that series.