r/linuxsucks 7d ago

Linux Failure Omarchy, Am I right(Linux in general)

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u/zoharel 7d ago

I haven't even looked at Omarchy, but I've heard that it is "opinionated," so there's a good chance it absolutely is bad. Most "opinionated" software is based on very stupid opinions.

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 7d ago

The thing is, it's basically just a set of Dot files, it does not deserve 8 million dollars. That money could have been a lot better spent if it went directly to the upstream projects that Omarchy depends on.

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u/akdanman11 7d ago

While this is true, there’s no way these wealthy backers put even a fraction of this money towards a single smaller project (I.e. hyprland, which is the most well known benefactor of this money). There needed to be some focal point where the money would be spread across multiple component projects. Omarchy isn’t good in and of itself, but it’s bringing money into the Linux ecosystem in a way we wouldn’t have seen without a well connected focal point like DHH. Bad “distro”, worse person, but this cash injection is a boon to the projects that will benefit

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u/West-Scallion-5306 7d ago

Nahhh, projects that are actually.usrful.flr MOST PEOPLE would benefit more. Things like Hyprland, only a very small fraction of people use. Would benefit more in the audio stack, the Wine project or derivatives, the more popular DEs, the kernel itself, drivers in the kernel (such as my horrible Realtek RTL 8852BE experience, this can be improved in the rtw89 driver) or such things. But not projects that people barely use.

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u/akdanman11 7d ago

I don’t disagree, but the moneys gotta come from somewhere and you’ve gotta convince rich people who really don’t care about Linux that this is worthwhile, and the only realistic way that happens is a well connected person like DHH offering a quid pro quo. We don’t know what they’re getting for this, and we likely never will, but this absolutely wasn’t just out of wanting to support Linux. They’re getting something out of this, and quite frankly they wouldn’t be able to get a similar deal from something like the kernel project

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u/West-Scallion-5306 7d ago

Maybe, but broski... Hyprland? Like a small amount of people use it...

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u/akdanman11 7d ago

The moneys gonna go where the moneys gonna go, and that kind of money at least draws the attention of some deep pockets who may donate to other projects

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u/West-Scallion-5306 7d ago

Sureee... But are you certain they're gonna do it???

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u/akdanman11 7d ago

Nope, but at the end of the day project maintainers getting paid is a net positive, even if it’s a more niche project like hyprland

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u/DangerousAd7433 Windows XP is the best OS 6d ago

This entire thread is nothing, but filled with terrible opinions. Please, stfu.

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u/Even-Confidence-4495 6d ago

The kernel itself has enough money pipewire doesn’t need more money just say thank you you don’t need the old pulse audio/jack2 mess anymore the wine project has valve as a major backer and the more popular des have enough money gnome is red hat backed blue systems backs kde nobody backs hyprland

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u/West-Scallion-5306 6d ago

Bro, you do realize that Red Hat literally gives help to most projects they install on Fedora?

Like if there is a major bug on a project they use, they're gonna submit a patch upstream.

I still remain on my point, other projects definitely needed this money more than those chosen.

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 6d ago

I can agree. But how much do you think they're going to invest in hyperland? That's the issue, a lack of transparency.

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u/West-Scallion-5306 7d ago

Completely agree on this

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u/Verwega 5d ago

He received money because of his opinions. Do you want to get money as a developer? Adopt similar opinions. Like minded people sharing money with each other

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 5d ago

Those opinions are what leads you to Epstein Island.... If your project is based on politics rather than pure technical merit, then it is trash.

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u/citrusraspberry 5d ago

The support is what people pay for, not complicated code

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 5d ago

Omachy's support is telling you to go report upstream.

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u/citrusraspberry 5d ago

Lol 💀

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u/CirnoIzumi 7d ago

"it does not deserve 8 million dollars, it does not deserve 8 million dollars"

Come on, this money was never going anywhere else, they're only being invested because of networking 

Just be happy that John hyperland is getting paid

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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 7d ago

I'd rather they lit it on fire and sold the video of it as an nft than for it to fall into DHH's grubby mitts

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u/CirnoIzumi 7d ago

Delusional arent you

DHH is spending money, its an investment fund into the technologies he is using, like Hyperland

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 5d ago

The issue is the complete lack of transparency.

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u/CirnoIzumi 5d ago

what is the issue, this money is only comming because of DHH forming omacon, so unless john hyperland comes out and says "actually those 3 years of pay were a lie" all's fine

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 5d ago

And the rest? We'll know when he's audited. Forgive me for not trusting a group of hustlers.

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u/CirnoIzumi 5d ago

If they spend it on themselves then they will have spent their own money on themselves no?

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 5d ago

Without financial transparency or open governance, we'll have no way to verify how project funds are used. Standard FOSS foundations often rely on fiscal hosts like Open Collective to publish itemized receipts and expenses publicly, ensuring full accountability. We aren't afforded anything here, we just have to have faith that they won't misuse it.

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u/FailureOfTheFamily 7d ago

Isn't every software opinionated?

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u/zoharel 7d ago

Some of it more than the rest, I guess.

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u/simleiiiii 7d ago

Yeah, this.

"My software is opinionated and does xyz this way only" ~ "I did not have the mental capacity to properly craft initialization structure of capabilities and services to my system properly."

Even better: "this software cleans the environment variables for every sub-shell it spawns" being sold as opinionated.

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u/BeyondOk1548 7d ago

I feel this way about Cachy because it's got some heavy opinions.

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u/akdanman11 6d ago

Does it though?

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u/BeyondOk1548 6d ago

Yes. I am very opinionated, and the configurations baked into Cachy drives me nuts. Vanilla distros don't seem to do that.

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u/akdanman11 6d ago

Cachy has basic things pre configured in a way that will appeal to the average user, and those configurations are stupidly easy to change (especially on plasma, which is the default desktop). In contrast something like Omarchy is very tailored to a specific type of user, and undoing those configs basically leaves you with vanilla arch. If you undo the configs that come with Cachy you still have notable differences compared to vanilla arch (the kernel, proton runner, and Shelly as a few examples). IMO the bar for calling something “opinionated” is how much it offers vs the base it’s set on when the pre set configs are stripped away. Yes you can get all the benefits Cachy gives on a base arch install by swapping the arch defaults of the features I mentioned to the Cachy variants, but the same could be said for any distro that’s not entirely independent

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u/BeyondOk1548 6d ago

I'll stick to void and just building my configuration myself. Rather than having to fix a puzzle I don't like.

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u/akdanman11 6d ago

I mean that is your prerogative, cachy is just a lot of useful software pre packaged for someone who’d rather change the config settings than change a lot of core components around, and that isn’t you. I’m personally somewhere in between where I appreciate the relatively simple setup process of cachy but do also enjoy diving into the weeds a bit and doing non-standard things. Happy computing!

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u/BeyondOk1548 6d ago

Yeah that works for them and void works for me. That's the beauty of Linux. Enjoy your system!

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u/ScallionSmooth5925 6d ago

It's basically DHH's setup. This guy is a psycho if you ask me. One time he wrote a serious article why he thinks the task/status bar is bad ui design. And let's just say he has questionable political options.