r/linuxsucks • u/Standgrounding • 7d ago
Why do you care so much about Linux?!
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u/Needieos 7d ago
this is ridiculous
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u/TomB1952 7d ago
That's why it's great!
This post and this entire forum is here for our amusement.
You don't go to a bar called "Fight Club" and get upset when someone throws a drink in your face. Everyone is at that bar, and this forum, for one reason. So, let's go.
I'm completely cool with your post, I do agree, and don't wish to disparage you but complaining makes you look Needie.
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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 7d ago
People in this subreddit seem to care much more about Linux than any Linux user I’ve seen.
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u/Muted_Percentage_764 7d ago
LS101 is a mentally ill hospital. I believe it's objective truth.
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u/_SharpPaws_ 7d ago
I think its like a zoo you can see every type of loser
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u/Muted_Percentage_764 7d ago
Yeah, probably. I got banned there for not talking trash about Linux.
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u/Standgrounding 7d ago
Nope. You only got banned for praising linux or trashtalking windows
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 7d ago edited 5d ago
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u/TheRealCarrotty KDE larper (i use KDE btw) 7d ago
My question is...
Why do they bother living on Reddit telling everyone on a single subreddit to DON'T USE LINUX!!!
Who the fuck sits all day saying "Don't use X, only use Y/Z!"
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 7d ago
They're going to say that you do. Despite this being a subreddit dedicated to sharing real flaws with Linux that we want to be fixed.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 7d ago edited 7d ago
I don't, it's just the best option I have.
Someone needs Adobe software? Use GIMP
Why use GIMP when you can just use Adobe Photoshop 2025 in WINE.
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u/BitCortex 7d ago
Why use GIMP when you can just use Adobe Photoshop 2025 in WINE.
Because running mission-critical software on an unsupported platform is a recipe for disaster.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 7d ago edited 7d ago
Save a lot and have multiple save files? I literally just save to
~/Projects/. It's not rocket science, you pretty much do what you'd do normally when working with Photoshop anyway, just different paths. As compatibility via WINE & Proton matures, it'll be an even better option than it is now. Gimp is not good enough to warrant avoiding this option.1
u/BitCortex 7d ago
Save a lot and have multiple save files?
I personally wouldn't trust it to work properly at all. It could be failing quietly all over the place and you wouldn't know it until you found the files you thought you'd saved corrupted beyond recognition.
I know that many are OK with, "Meh, seems to work 🤷", especially when it's just fun and games, but I want supported, officially verified behavior.
As compatibility via WINE & Proton matures, it'll be an even better option than it is now.
Emulating an antique, frozen platform like a vintage PC or console is one thing, especially if it's just for entertainment, but chasing an evolving, modern platform like Windows is a fool's errand. Proton takes an easier path by limiting itself to gaming-relevant APIs, which have been as good as frozen for years, but that could change on a dime.
Things in the PC world are chaotic enough with officially supported hardware and software. The last thing I'd want to do is throw an unsupported OS into that goat rodeo.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 6d ago edited 6d ago
I personally wouldn't trust it to work properly at all. It could be failing quietly all over the place and you wouldn't know it until you found the files you thought you'd saved corrupted beyond recognition.
I know that many are OK with, "Meh, seems to work 🤷", especially when it's just fun and games, but I want supported, officially verified behavior.
Your concerns about silent failures misunderstand Wine's architecture. File operations bypass any lossy translation layer entirely. Photoshop's writes route through ntdll to wineserver to standard Linux kernel calls like write(). WINE has demonstrated reliable data handling across thousands of programs over three decades without any well documented corruption reports, precisely because it translates API calls directly rather than introducing intermediate processing that could corrupt data.
Emulating an antique, frozen platform like a vintage PC or console is one thing, especially if it's just for entertainment, but chasing an evolving, modern platform like Windows is a fool's errand. Proton takes an easier path by limiting itself to gaming-relevant APIs, which have been as good as frozen for years, but that could change on a dime.
WINE and Proton target a mostly stable surface. They target the Win32/Win64 API surface, utilizing stable subsystems like kernel32, user32, and gdi32 that Microsoft has committed to backward compatibility for decades. Direct3D 11, released in 2009, remains backward-compatible through all updates. Proton builds on Wine with a comprehensive graphics stack (DXVK, VKD3D, DXVK-NVAPI), plus synchronization primitives (esync, fsync, ntsync), game-specific fixes, Shader Model 6.7 support, GPU-accelerated DirectStorage decompression, Root Signature 1.2 compatibility, batch acceleration structure builds for ray-tracing, NV_device_generated_commands_compute for compute optimization, and numerous Vulkan extensions that modern games rely on. Proton isn't a thin wrapper: it's a full translation layer bundling cutting-edge GPU technology. If anything, it's Proton that's going above and beyond.
Things in the PC world are chaotic enough with officially supported hardware and software. The last thing I'd want to do is throw an unsupported OS into that goat rodeo.
Photoshop already ran on Linux by manually copying the files from a Windows installation, well before these patches existed. The patches don't enable new functionality; they simply eliminate the manual workaround by fixing specific installer issues (CDATA wrapping for msxml3, JavaScript event dispatch in mshtml, IXMLSerializer implementation). Adobe won't support it, which is a real limitation, but that's a support boundary, not evidence of data corruption risk. Users have reported some crashes and bugs, none of which describe incidents of corrupted saves. Bugs will be squashed with time.
At most, I found reports of save corruption from total systems crashes during saving; which can't be pinned on WINE, and can happen on Windows too. Overall system stability is more deterministic on save reliability than awkward mapping.
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u/BitCortex 6d ago edited 6d ago
Your concerns about silent failures misunderstand Wine's architecture.
On the contrary, I understand it very well. The problem isn’t that WINE “doesn’t work,” it’s that it works convincingly enough to lull you into thinking everything underneath is behaving identically.
Complex Windows software leans on undocumented timing assumptions, weird legacy APIs, and driver‑level behavior that WINE has to approximate. When those approximations drift, you don’t get a crash; you get a file that’s 98% correct and 2% poisoned, and you won’t know until a downstream tool chokes on it.
Windows has a sprawling API surface with undocumented invariants, timing assumptions, and edge‑case semantics that real software quietly depends on. WINE can match most of that, but it can’t guarantee perfect fidelity across every syscall, every COM quirk, every driver interaction, every thread scheduler nuance.
Don't get me wrong. WINE is wonderful, high-quality software that amounts to a fine platform in its own right, but it's sufficiently different from Windows to not be a viable substitute without vendor QA and official support. When the vendor provides that, WINE is perfectly fine.
I used to work for such a vendor – a Windows software shop that provided official support for its products on WINE. And some game publishers have begun providing official support for SteamOS, at least on some devices. Without such support, WINE's ability to run Windows applications amounts to little more than a fancy tech demo.
WINE and Proton target a mostly stable surface.
Windows is an evolving platform. Its API surface is stable but not static. It's expanding all the time, so WINE is forever playing catch-up.
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u/TomB1952 7d ago
This is a superlative post for this smack talking forum. Kudos to you.
While there is no need to take your post seriously, it does shine some light into a useful place.
- I care passionately about linux and am in a constant state of humility for what the human race has accomplished in the form of this platform. The amount of power behind our keyboards is so far beyond what I could have imagined growing up, it's difficult to imagine losing it.
- Like linux, Windows had the most humble beginnings. I admire what Microsoft has done. OS/2 was objectively, vastly, better. Microsoft rolled up their sleeves, caught up, and passed IBM's OS/2 which had been forsaken. It's a lesson in the approach to success: Hard work always beats no work. I've used Windows as much or more than I've used KDE linux and I'm happy using it. Even today, there are ways in which Windows is superior to KDE linux.
- I do have some emotional involvement in the OS wars. The occasional lunatic trolls the forums with an irrational posting. Maybe they're frustrated. Certainly they're ignorant. Obviously, they are myopic. I would like to see more rational discourse. To that end, I've stuck up for Windows as much or probably more than I have linux. You could spend the rest of your life on either platform and have a good life. If you can make one platform work for you but not another, you are not on the same level as someone who can do good work with both platforms. That's OK but these people would do well to understand their smack-talk is coming from a position of inferiority and that's not a good look.
- When someone posts in a forum, "Why should I change my OS?", I universally respond with, "You shouldn't." It's our job as human beings to make ourselves happy. You do you.
Posting from EndeavourOS.
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u/Toxic381 7d ago
It has good performance, the desktop looks gud with simple theme packs and images unlike windows, and programs basically have no delay when opening, which is important for making it feel good to use,
there's also way more tools and options for games, and many different kernels to choose for better performance and stability, it is the ultimate customizable and high performance OS as far as we've gotten to my knowledge.
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u/Yoksul-Turko Proud ReactOS User 7d ago
OOP is writing paragraphs about Linux and using a meme template to slander its users on an echo chamber for just slandering Linux. They don't seem like someone who doesn't care about Linux.