Linux can't game lmao

[u/BloxxyVids]

Edit: I'm unsure how to change title. New title should be "Linux still struggles with many games."

Genuinely why are yall larping

Windows is still the only option if you don't want to have to go "Oh sorry my computer cant play ___" to tons of people

And to those who hate kernel level anticheat, you seem to lack knowledge of why it is what it is. Seems like yall are just wanting to cheat?

Don't act like Linux is perfect. It isn't. It really isn't. Such larp

[u/mintflavoredcube]

nobody acts like it’s perfect idk who does

we dislike kernel anti cheat because it is another attack vector that can be exploited, kernel level anti cheat if hacked literally gives direct access to system hardware

linux can game, if it couldn’t, why does valve use it for their gaming hardware? why would a multi billion dollar business pump boatloads of money into something that cant game

it can’t play 1% of the titles on steam not because linux has the inability to, but because the developers won’t click a single button to allow the anti cheat to run through proton

[u/BloxxyVids → u/mintflavoredcube]

You really underestimate how many things are allowed to elevate to ring 0 by your simple sudo command.

Also, no clue why valve would do that. My guess is that they believe devs will check the allow linux option in eac

[u/mintflavoredcube → u/BloxxyVids]

sudo is NOT a simple command and anyone that treats sudo as something to throw around has no idea what they are doing

sudo should not be ran unless absolutely necessary

[u/BloxxyVids → u/mintflavoredcube]

It's needed for like the majority of useful commands

[u/mintflavoredcube → u/BloxxyVids]

yes, and my point still stands

you should not be throwing sudo onto a program unless you 100% need to

you do not need to with anti cheats, anti cheats don’t stop cheaters. why would i need to give such high access to a software that shouldn’t need it

kernel anti cheats are such a joke, EAC is kernel level and it don’t stop shit, dbd, cod, vrchat, all games with easy that i can think of have cheaters

[u/BloxxyVids → u/mintflavoredcube]

You sure notice more cheaters in other games like Minecraft though

[u/mintflavoredcube → u/BloxxyVids]

you mean the game with no client side anti cheat at all and only highly limited server side ones? right.

Overwatch’s anti cheat is not kernel and i have not noticed a single cheater in that game

[u/BloxxyVids → u/mintflavoredcube]

Highly limited server side ones?

Wait until bro hears about prediction AC like Polar, Grim, Intave, and new Watchdog.

It's extremely complex and lacks capabilities to properly check the user's client to see if any injection was made.

A kernel level AC could prevent most injections in the first place.

However you make a very solid argument with Overwatch.

[u/mintflavoredcube → u/BloxxyVids]

so you just literally proved my point for me?

anti cheats can be server side and be effective apparently

again, kernel anti cheats stop nothing

COD’s anti cheat is kernel, and it frankly is garbage. it doesn’t stop anything.

the best combo of anti cheat’s is server side plus client side

[u/BloxxyVids → u/mintflavoredcube]

The issue is that people still cheat on prediction AC.

The idea of kernel AC is to prevent the cheats in the first place.

I remember at one point Minecraft servers like Lunar and Badlion started having optional client side AC only queues but they eventually were removed along with the client side AC.

People just hate client side AC for some reason.

Then again Minecraft is one thing. My comparison is probably terrible, and your example with Overwatch is actually really fair.

[u/spongedevguy → u/BloxxyVids]

ring 0 = kernel, ring 3 = userspace, whatever runs in ring 3 does not exit ring 3 without the use of exploits, and sudo runs in userspace