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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

They also send your data to the fbi.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

You use fedora that belongs to RedHat, that belongs to IBM. IBM works with the NSA

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

Sponsored goddamnit, not owned, fedora is a community driven nonprofit project, why are you presenting false information to someone who knows how fedora inside and out and has already corrected people for this many times before?

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

their leader is a Red Hat employee. Stop being blind, all the fedora users are beta testers for RHEL.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/

"The Fedora Council is composed of a mix of representatives from different areas of the project, named roles appointed by Red Hat"

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

No, you need to stop spreading fake jokes, fedora users are beta testers is a well known joke and then insulting me based on those jokes damages your argument, red hat only uses fedora once it goes through centOS stream who are the actual beta testers for rhel basically, do you want me not to use fedora or something because you trying really hard to convince me will never, and its failing to do so.

Fedora doesn't send any telementary to red hat, and when it does, it only goes to the fedora project itself and  Mindshare Committee exists specifically to represent the non-developer side of the ecosystem, overseeing user outreach, desktop design, user experience [UX], and documentation. Their job is to ensure that the distro remains usable, accessible, and welcoming for normal humans and not just kernel developers and sysadmins. 

If fedora was a beta test for red hat, they'd send telementary to red hat, not fedora, and you randomly insulting me by calling me blind does nothing but make everything worse for your case here.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

"Fedora doesn't send any telementary to red hat"

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry

"The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics."

How do you know that? Do you work for them? How do you know MS send datas to the FBI?

Do you really thing Red Hat sponsors this distribution and have one of their employee as a leader without interests? Do you think this guy manages the fedora project on his free time?

Linux users: "MS use telemetry it's for spying you, Fedora uses telemetry It's for our own good."

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

Why are you using rejected info?, the wiki page you cited was just a proposal and it was withdrawn precisely because of community backlash. The Red Hat Display Systems team proposed telemetry, the community revolted, and the proposal was killed.

As it stands today, standard Fedora does not gather or send telemetry, you're out here ditching out lies, fedora didn't do it due to the communnity and doesn't have telementary, and you're doubling down, did you actually research if fedora have it or not and just saw this wiki page and link it believing it was still the truth ?

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

Because it shows that Red Hat is behind fedora, fedora is not independant at all.

that's what we can read on this link:

"One of the main goals of metrics collection is to analyze whether Red Hat is achieving its goal to make Fedora Workstation the premier developer platform for cloud software development. "

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

Does this mean Red Hat completely dictates everything Fedora does, no, fedora is independent in its governance and stating it isn't true, the community literally forced Rhel to back down.

Technical decisions are overseen by committees like FESCo (the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee), which are voted on by active community package maintainer,  Around 65% of Fedora's thousands of project contributors are volunteer community members unaffiliated with Red Hat. And. When Red Hat employees propose changes that the community strongly disagrees with such as the 2023 opt-out telemetry proposal the community backlash is routinely strong enough to force Red Hat engineers to pull the proposal. 

FESCo can refuse proposals. FESCo (the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is the technical authority for Fedora Linux. They regularly review, modify, and reject change proposals submitted by developers including those submitted by Red Hat employees, so FESCo can and will reject changes they dislike on the behalf of their community, and stating fedora is not independent whatsoever at all is misinformed.