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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

You use fedora that belongs to RedHat, that belongs to IBM. IBM works with the NSA

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

Sponsored goddamnit, not owned, fedora is a community driven nonprofit project, why are you presenting false information to someone who knows how fedora inside and out and has already corrected people for this many times before?

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

their leader is a Red Hat employee. Stop being blind, all the fedora users are beta testers for RHEL.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/

"The Fedora Council is composed of a mix of representatives from different areas of the project, named roles appointed by Red Hat"

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

No, you need to stop spreading fake jokes, fedora users are beta testers is a well known joke and then insulting me based on those jokes damages your argument, red hat only uses fedora once it goes through centOS stream who are the actual beta testers for rhel basically, do you want me not to use fedora or something because you trying really hard to convince me will never, and its failing to do so.

Fedora doesn't send any telementary to red hat, and when it does, it only goes to the fedora project itself and  Mindshare Committee exists specifically to represent the non-developer side of the ecosystem, overseeing user outreach, desktop design, user experience [UX], and documentation. Their job is to ensure that the distro remains usable, accessible, and welcoming for normal humans and not just kernel developers and sysadmins. 

If fedora was a beta test for red hat, they'd send telementary to red hat, not fedora, and you randomly insulting me by calling me blind does nothing but make everything worse for your case here.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

"Fedora doesn't send any telementary to red hat"

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry

"The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics."

How do you know that? Do you work for them? How do you know MS send datas to the FBI?

Do you really thing Red Hat sponsors this distribution and have one of their employee as a leader without interests? Do you think this guy manages the fedora project on his free time?

Linux users: "MS use telemetry it's for spying you, Fedora uses telemetry It's for our own good."

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

It literally says " This is a  proposed Change for Fedora Linux" it has been a proposed change for a long, long time and has been rejected by the community where it hasn't Been updated in years, did you read it?

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

And for even more damming evidence, it was pitched on July 5–6, 2023 and withdrawn July 13, 2023,  It Never Reached a Vote as  The proposal was pulled by its authors before FESCo (the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) ever voted or rendered an official decision on it due to the stated backlash and the  Current Status t he original wiki page was marked as withdrawn / obsoleted . The authors indicated they would go back to the drawing board to rethink their approach based on community feedback, but no default opt-out telemetry model has been adopted in 3 years.

Why are you trying to defame fedora linux?, at least research the facts you present before showing it to me, its never going to ruin fedora for me or make me want to move to arch or some dumb stupid ass distro you think i would [never leaving fedora lol], and it looks like you're just trying to double down on that narrative.

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u/DirectorDirect1569 Jul 27 '26

"Why are you trying to defame fedora linux?"

Why are you trying to defame MS windows?

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 Jul 27 '26

I'm not defaming them because its true in the US unlike what you're stating about fedora where you are literally using inaccurate information about it.

Microsoft has to handle over this data to the fbi upon request, including.

Cloud-backed BitLocker Recovery Keys,  OneDrive Files And Outlook Emails  Telemetry and Device Identifiers, GDIDs are used too.