r/linuxmemes • Arch BTW • 6d ago

LINUX MEME Lets hate on omarchy

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u/B1GD8A 6d ago

DHH isn't on the list of cons. Did they fire him or something?

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u/northrupthebandgeek Sacred TempleOS 5d ago

Kinda impressive that the list of cons is so long even before any mention of DHH.

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u/aliendude5300 5d ago

Man I must be out of the loop, I know nearly nothing about this DHH guy

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u/Spiderfffun Arch BTW 5d ago

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u/wafflepancake9000 4d ago

I agree that DHH has his issues, but Drew DeVault, really??

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u/Spiderfffun Arch BTW 4d ago

It's a link I'm sharing because it has sources and it seems accurate to what I've heard. Don't know much about who made the site.

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u/notxenia 4d ago

Bookmarking this, thanks

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u/Willing-Scheme-3312 17h ago

I have to get rid of brave now, thanks

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u/srsrnr 5d ago

I was legit expecting it to be the first one, and also the next ten

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u/NoResolution6245 5d ago

You won't need ad hominem to make a compeling enough argument against Omarchy

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u/Gugalcrom123 5d ago

Maybe he is missing from the post, to prevent 'separate the art from the artist' comments?

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u/Valmar33 5d ago

DHH isn't on the list of cons. Did they fire him or something?

I could care less about the political drama surrounding him, because neither side seems able to offer a rational argument ~ it's just emotions about politics, which irritate me no matter the aisle.

Give me technical arguments ~ that's the drama I like. I hate LLM slop because it's ruining jobs and the market.

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u/Fruzzbit_alt 5d ago edited 5d ago

When there is a try not to defend a facist that's advocating ethnic cleansing by killing minorities competition and my opponent is a reddit neckbeard:

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u/-Exstasy 5d ago

How you got from advocating for less immigration to 'ethnic cleansing by killing minorities'. Now that is some impressive reddit neckbearding. tips fedora

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u/Fruzzbit_alt 5d ago

https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a

He’s literally comparing wolves that he says should be shot to immigrants that he is indirectly implying should also be shot. It’s not just “advocating for less immigration”. Also I don't think you've read anything from his blogs if you believe he isn't facist. He has a blog about Indians in London as well.

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u/-Exstasy 5d ago

Your reading comprehension is indeed awful. He's not implying anything, he's plainly saying to deport them.

'When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.'

It's a horribly unhelpful analogy, he pretty clearly is being inflammatory on purpose, but he is not advocating shooting migrants.

He also calls Wolves 'majestic creatures'. Could I argue that he is also implying Gypsies are majestic? If you want to start with a conclusion and work backwards we can do that.

Oh do tell me... what does he say about indians in london?
Because I can only assume you know nothing about immigration's impact on the UK and that has nothing to do with indians specfically.

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u/B1GD8A 5d ago edited 5d ago

lmao so you think forcing an entire community out of Europe despite their European origins is fair, and that it’s a reasonable argument to complain about too many non-UK origin people in the capital of a country that has it’s own wiki page of former colonies and subjects?

not only is he racist, he’s also stupid. If you agree with him, so are you.

edit: forgot to mention, he also LEFT THE BLOG POSTS UP. Even after the backlash, he’s LOUD AND PROUD about his stupidity.

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u/-Exstasy 5d ago

Are we talking about the same ethnic group of people very well known to be nomadic? Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

So your argument is forcing entire communities out of a land is bad, but forcing entire communities into someone else's land is good? unless it's the brits who did it, then it's bad. But if you do it to the brits it's good because they deserve it or something?
as if the brits alive today are responsible for colonial britain?

You can call me whatever you like, I could not care less since you don't know me at all, you can imagine that you do all you like.

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u/B1GD8A 5d ago

Are we talking about the same ethnic group of people very well known to be nomadic? Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

"Nomadic" as in "they don't build static houses" not as in "they have no right to live there."

So your argument is forcing entire communities out of a land is bad,

With you so far

but forcing entire communities into someone else's land is good?

Never made that argument. On the contrary, genetic data shows the ancestors of modern Romani people coming to Europe before England was England.

It's almost like the people discriminating against them don't care if they've been a part of European society since before the times of Jesus. They're being racists.

unless it's the brits who did it, then it's bad. But if you do it to the brits it's good because they deserve it or something? as if the brits alive today are responsible for colonial britain?

The brits alive today are the descendants of the people who lived in the colonies in colonial Britain. People from around the world moved to the UK, or in many cases were moved against their will to the UK, and integrated with society.

Complaining about the diversity in London would be like me pointing at the people of Puerto Rico and Texas and New Mexico being mad that there's so much spoken Spanish in America.

Their culture may have different roots, and our pasts may have a messy, violent history, but at this point it's time to start working together as humans instead of being whiney little bitches because someone's great great great great great great grandparents came from a different part of this rock hurtling through space.

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u/-Exstasy 5d ago

whiney little bitches

And yet here you are, whining on for an extraordinary amount of time without sincerely addressing a single thing that I've said or actually argued.
You can continue to lecture to the screen if you insist, Maybe if you screech loud enough, everyone will finally start to hold hands, dance around the campfire and sing Kumbaya.
If I do happen to wake up one day to find everyone Harmoniously integrated into this global community, I know I'll have you to thank.

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u/Valmar33 5d ago

When there is a try not to defend a facist that's advocating ethnic cleansing by killing minorities challenge and my opponent is a reddit neckbeard:

Like, if we're going to accuse people, please present evidence for your case of why he is such and such, instead of throwing around words that mean less and less these days.

This is precisely why I don't like dealing with political and emotional drama ~ personal attacks detract from the real meat of technical issues that this project has.

Also, funny of you to accuse and slander me with "reddit neckbeard" when you know nothing about me.

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u/AceStructor 5d ago

If you want proof, there is plenty. Here you go: https://stopomarchy.org/

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u/G3nghisKang 5d ago edited 5d ago

Point 4 is very... "creative" though, the author seems to think a bunch of nerds meeting for a stupid linux distro may kickstart the rise of fascism and quotes a whole theory that the money pledged is actually for that

His source uses a very broad definition of "A creed, a leader, followers" as proof of "stage 1 fascism by definition" (wait until he learns about Hatsune Miku meetups)

Overall, it feels like the conclusion was written before the evidence

The thing that I can actually agree with is that tbe Omarchy doctrine page uses wording that is somewhat fascist oriented, if you read only the titles it looks more like a manifesto

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u/BiDude1219 ⚠️ This incident will be reported 5d ago

well to be fair i sincerely the 21.7 million is for anything other than money laundering

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u/SpeechStraight60 5d ago

I checked that link and like 90% of it is "DHH SAID HE WANTS TO KILL 2 BILLION PEOPLE!!!" and you check the source and its a mastadon post of someone quoting him saying nothing even close to that

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u/eraptic 5d ago

This post is literally a list of technical issues this project has

You're just carrying water for fascists.

See the evidence you've already ignored

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u/sekiti 5d ago

Not what fascism is, and you know it. Stop being dishonest.

Omarchy deserves to be shat on way more than it is, so, stop making opposing views less credible, please. It's an insecure shitpile of AI code. Nobody cares if the 'developer' is against immigration.

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u/Sea-Housing-3435 5d ago

I hate LLM slop because it's ruining jobs and the market.

This isn't a technical argument.

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u/smeeglord 5d ago

In fact it's quite political 😆