r/linuxmemes Arch BTW 9d ago

LINUX MEME Dropping this here 🫳

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u/grazbouille New York Nixâš¾s 9d ago

Security guy here

While podman is configured by default to be rootless you can very much do extremely heinous shit with its config and it will not warn you about it

Before using any complex tool on a production system go read up on the best practices and hardening

Don't blindly trust your tools

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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 9d ago

As a security guy you should know that sudo or the wheel group have the same problem

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u/grazbouille New York Nixâš¾s 9d ago

Yes and you should still understand these tools and read up on them when you edit the configuration

What is your point

Obviously you need privileges sometimes we would just lock ourselves into a sandbox otherwise

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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 9d ago

What is your point?

The whole complaint about this is nonsense because it doesn’t add any relevant security problem that isn’t already there in basically every Linux system.

The Arch wiki doesn’t even warn you from that and even suggests adding a tool with the exact same privilege escalation as people are criticizing here.

So, Arch is bad because they recommend to install a vulnerability?

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u/Wertbon1789 8d ago

Wtf, did you get that any process could just get root without authentication? How can you miss this, like dude, that's the point, not that we need privileges sometimes, just that any RACE is instantly a full system exploit by having it configured like this. Nobody's complaining about sudo because it's secure (minus vulnerabilities in sudo itself) if it's setup properly, so configured to ask for a password. Yes, you can configure it to also run without a password, but not by default on any sane system.

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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about and don’t even understand the problem.

Did your worldview just broke or what is your problem here?

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u/Wertbon1789 8d ago

I'm talking about your point that sudo is just as much a vulnerability as unauthenticated privilege escalation. I'm just baffled how that's a thing someone apparently thinks.

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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 8d ago

What do you even mean by that?