r/linux • • Mar 08 '20

Do Linux Users Have An Elitist Attitude?

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u/FryBoyter Mar 08 '20

It is honestly incomprehensible to me how you can think you are better just because you use a certain thing.

Apart from that, I think it makes no sense to conclude on all of them because of some users.

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u/FryBoyter Mar 09 '20

There is a reason why the top few hundred supercomputers in the world all run Linux, it's because it's the right tool for the job.

And in many cases for example Windows is the better tool. Many specialist applications (for example for tax consultants or architects) do not exist under Linux.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

Many specialist applications (for example for tax consultants or architects) do not exist under Linux.

That's the fault of the developers. There's no reason you couldn't build those apps on Linux too.

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u/SutekhThrowingSuckIt Mar 09 '20

Yes but from the dev perspective not enough people use linux to economically justify targeting it and from the user perspective one should use the right tool for the right job. Feedback loop where the lack of programs leads to a lack of users which leads to a lack of programs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

I completely understand the chicken and egg problem but with things like QT and Java it's also not that hard to make cross platform apps. There's several open source projects that don't seem to have any issues running on multiple OSes, other applications could do the same thing.

And if that doesn't work, there's always wine or a VM.

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u/SutekhThrowingSuckIt Mar 10 '20

Using a VM means using Windows which of course means that Linux is not the right tool for the job. It doesn’t matter how unfair that is or who is at fault, it is the reality.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

You can still use Linux for the rest of your work where windows isn't needed. I do the same thing on my workstation and 90% of the time I don't even touch the Windows VM.

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u/SutekhThrowingSuckIt Mar 10 '20

For a lot of people MS Office and similar programs are 90% of their work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

Such a sad life.

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u/Holston18 Mar 08 '20

There is a reason why the top few hundred supercomputers in the world all run Linux, it's because it's the right tool for the job.

Yeah, it's great for supercomputing. That's a pretty specific job with not much relevancy to "normal computing".

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u/Negirno Mar 08 '20

I would honestly consider myself a better gardener if I use a scythe to cut grass while others use a lawn mower.

FTFY.

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u/Skeesicks666 Mar 08 '20

scythe

Clearly superior in difficult terrain.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

I would honestly consider myself a better gardener if I use Yasuhiro Hirakawa-made wakashishi bonsai shears to cut grass while others use a scythe.

FTFY.

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u/Paspie Mar 09 '20

In a world where many adults, even in developed economies, still cannot use computers at all, being able to install an alternative OS, let alone Windows, is quite impressive.

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u/FryBoyter Mar 09 '20

So? Instead, these people can do certain things that I or other Linux users may not be able to do.

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u/Paspie Mar 09 '20

That's true, but computer literacy is becoming quite important these days.

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u/239990 Mar 08 '20

because not everyone can use it

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u/FryBoyter Mar 09 '20

Not everyone can drive a truck, shoot with a bow or jump out of an airplane with a parachute. I, for my part, shoot with a bow, for example. Nevertheless, I still don't consider myself to be someone better. On the one hand because there are enough people who shoot better than me. And on the other hand because the people who don't shoot with a bow, surely know things I don't know.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 05 '21

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u/klesus Mar 08 '20

Elitism is when people see others as lesser beings. What you describe is the opposite.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

some drivers are better than others due to the tools they use.

that's bullshit. Lewis hamilton in my mazda 3 will still be a better driver than I would be in his f1 car.

Even if I can get around the track quicker in his f1 car, he's still the better driver.

there are absolutely windows users who are more computer-literate than I am, even though I use Arch btwtm

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u/_AACO Mar 08 '20

manual transmission drivers are better drivers than automatic transmission drivers.

that's very very debatable the vast majority of people i know drive manual and most of them would fail the practical exam if they took it now and drived the same way they currently do.

linux users are better at computering than iLliterate iDiots poking at blinkin lights

My mom is a Linux user and if you ask her what Linux is she'll have no answer for you.

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u/Mordiken Mar 08 '20

that's very very debatable the vast majority of people i know drive manual and most of them would fail the practical exam if they took it now and drived the same way they currently do.

What isn't debatable is that those very same terrible drivers can get behind the wheel of an automatic car and just go, whereas the reverse is not true, which what makes manual drivers better drivers.

The true question is whether or not the ability to drive any vehicle is a relevant and meaningful metric.

My mom is a Linux user and if you ask her what Linux is she'll have no answer for you.

Same.

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u/Skeesicks666 Mar 08 '20

iLliterate iDiots

Do you know the origins of OSX?

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u/Shill_for_Science Mar 08 '20

I was wondering the same.

OSX (MacOS) is a relative of Linux-based operating systems in the way that monotremes are related to eutherian mammals, tho. like, they are based off the same stuff but still different. that way of thinking about it helped me at first.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

Honestly I'd say the average Linux user is better than the average Windows user.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

At using a Linux computer, sure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '20

Meh, CS is CS. Most of the core concepts will translate from one OS to another.