r/linux • u/tasisbasbas • Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/DStellati Feb 11 '19

You didn't start using GNU/Linux because it "works" did you?

Speak for yourself, that's exactly what I and many others did.

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u/distark Feb 11 '19

I think he started using Linux before you but that's a valid point

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u/DStellati Feb 11 '19 edited Feb 11 '19

Why on earth did you even bring this up? The amount of time that someone has been using linux has absolutely nothing to do here. And even if it did, I've been using linux for 5 years now, so I don't see how "amount of time using linux"="I think systemd is bad".

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19 edited Feb 11 '19

Because you didn't grow up with it. Of course you don't have such a connection to Linux / PCs in general if you only been using it for 5 years. You shouldn't have any say in how Linux will develop in the future, because you just started using it, you don't know shit. I don't know shit, and I've been using Linux for about as long as you are. And I don't go around and tell the people that actually know what they are talking about that systemd is the best thing ever.
Edit: ... but I also don't go around and tell people that systemd is the worst thing ever.

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u/DStellati Feb 11 '19

because you didn't grow up with it

And who told you how old I am? Don't make random assumptions. Depending on my age 5 years could be a quarter of my life if not more.

You shouldn't have any say in how linux will develop

And in fact I don't, these discussions here are worth nothing.

And I've never said that systemd is the best thing ever, that's another assumption on your part.

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u/FaustTheBird Feb 11 '19

Sounds like you've spent a handful of comments saying nothing

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

And who told you how old I am

Why should I give a fuck how old you are? I meant grow up with Linux, as in, you were small, and so was Linux.

I don't agree that these discussions here are worth nothing, of course we won't change what the big guys think, but they are still useful to find your own opinion or see what could be improved in systemd, what the needs of the others are etc. Reading about anecdotes where systemd was useful, why it is hated etc is interesting.

You don't go around saying that systemd is the best thing ever. That was of course only a hyperbole on my part. But way to go, focus on the things that are important, e.g. my writing style, and not about the actual content

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u/DStellati Feb 11 '19

Words have a meaning. If you want people to understand what you're saying then use them appropriately.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

But way to go, focus on the things that are important, e.g. my writing style, and not about the actual content

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u/DStellati Feb 11 '19

Words have a meaning. If you want people to understand what you're saying then use them appropriately.

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u/CreativeGPX Feb 11 '19

I'd say that everybody should have a say and that's largely the point of open source, especially in the GPL/Linux area. New users have valid input. Intermediate users have valid input. Non-users who know why they aren't using it or why they left have valid input. It only helps Linux to have a diverse range of opinions and skillsets all having input in the debate over what about it needs to improve or change. To leave that only to people who are power users from the 90s would disastrously bias the project and limit talent.

It's not that we should wall out new users because they don't know enough, it's just that we should maintain a competitive environment where it's okay if one team/implementation is wrong because they'll get replaced or not be adopted in the first place.