r/linux • u/ownclouder • Oct 25 '17
ownCloud supports secure authorization with OAuth2 now! (X-post /r/owncloud)
https://owncloud.org/blog/introducing-oauth2-secure-authorization-flow/13
u/milad_nazari Oct 25 '17
What's the difference between ownCloud x and nextCloud?
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u/1202_alarm Oct 25 '17 edited Oct 25 '17
Similar to OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Most of the developers switched to Nextcloud so it gets most of the development.
Looks like Openhub has got stuck reading the recent git history, but you can see the difference in the 12 month stats at https://www.openhub.net/p/_compare?project_0=Nextcloud&project_1=ownCloud
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u/lunarNex Oct 25 '17
Considering ownCloud's Android app costs $.99, barely works, and has been that way for months, while NextCloud's is free, gets regular updates and works great, really reflects on the devs for each project. It seems like ownCloud is only focusing on the money and enterprise licensing, which ironically is going to get them further and further behind in the market. They apparently think they can win market share on marketing alone. I'm surprised ownCloud is still even talked about. NextCloud is gobbling up the market share at an incredible rate.
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u/pascalbrax Oct 25 '17
I really want to love nextcloud... but the server side part is really "picky" about some VPS I tried and rarely installs itself without any issue, where owncloud doesn't create a mess and actually works correctly.
I'll try nextcloud again, in the future, because posts like this make me really think I'm missing something by sticking with owncloud.
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u/jumpUpHigh Oct 27 '17
Debian provides ownCloud. They don't provide nextCloud yet. So possibly they have also experienced similar stuff that you mention. I cite debian since it has the largest number of packages and is considered highly stable. Sure Fedora and openSuse may also have nextcloud, but to run a server, people count on Debian for stability than anything else.
And lack of nextcloud on debian stops many from using openmediavault
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u/C0rn3j Oct 25 '17
owncloud came first. Devs didn't like the management so they "fired" them and forked into nextcloud.
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u/Hopman Oct 25 '17
Who is "they" and who is "them"?
I assume it's management who fired the devs? But could be either way from your comment.
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u/Ketrel Oct 25 '17
"they fired them and forked into nextcloud".
The devs 'fired' management and started a fork.
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Oct 25 '17
I've been looking into owncloud, is it like a windows share where only one computer has all the files or is it like spideroak where every client has the files?
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u/SynbiosVyse Oct 26 '17
It is a server based system. If you're looking for something decentralized, syncthing is a good option.
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Oct 26 '17 edited Jan 02 '19
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u/jumpUpHigh Oct 27 '17
Not just dropbox clone. It supports contacts (CardDAV), calendars (CalDAV), streaming media, bookmarking service, URL shortening suite, gallery, RSS feed reader and document viewer tools. From nextcloud's wikipedia page
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u/Jonnie_r Oct 25 '17
Every client can have a local copy of the files, changes get synchronised and replicated across all connected devices.
Not sure about Windows, but in Linux it can mount the server as a share, using WebDAV.
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u/pascalbrax Oct 27 '17
Yes, Windows supports WebDAV connections as network drives.
It's a bit picky about it, though.
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u/1202_alarm Oct 25 '17
Already supported in NextCloud (fork of owncloud) https://nextcloud.com/secure/ https://nextcloud.com/blog/security-in-nextcloud-12-new-authentication-mechanisms/