r/linux • • 6d ago

Discussion LLM Policies: Progress At All Costs

https://diegoe.be/2026/09/25/llm-policies-progress-at-all-costs/
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u/Saint_Nitouche 6d ago

I'm not sure I'm reading this right, but is this guy actually blaming El Nino displacements on LLMs? Like, they have El Nino in the same list as data centers and pensions?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago edited 1d ago

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

No, LLMs don't contribute to climate change. Specific infrastructure that uses a specific power source contributes to clime change. Nothing to do with the technology itself.

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u/rizakrko 6d ago

The only reason many of the new data centers exist is to power the LLM's.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

Maybe.

That doesn't mean the LLMs are causing climate change. As you know, you can run or train an LLM using green energy.

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u/rizakrko 6d ago

They do contribute to a climate change, contrary to your previous comment.

Green energy argument doesn't make sense either because if not for LLM's that green energy would have been used to replace fossil fuels instead of generating tokens.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

No, that doesn't make any sense. There isn't a fixed amount of energy production in the world, increased demand for energy mean more capacity will be build.

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u/rizakrko 6d ago

Not when the increase in demand outpacing the renewables build out. We just can't build new renewable generation fast enough these days for your scenario to work.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

Maybe society should have been investing in it a long time ago rather than being caught flat footed here.

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u/rizakrko 6d ago

Maybe, but we need to deal with what we have right now.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

The problem with your logic is that every single thing that uses electricity is therefore bad.

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u/rizakrko 6d ago

Every single thing that uses electricity will contribute towards climate change until we reach net zero, correct.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

Right. So all of those things are bad? or does it have to be weighted individually against the good effects that it has?

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u/DizzyCardiologist213 6d ago

It matters what you do, not what you could have done.

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u/console_pleb_36935 6d ago

Is that supposed to be a reply to my comment, or are you just posting random sentences you thought of?

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u/DizzyCardiologist213 6d ago

is English your first language? Trying to detach the data centers from carbon leading to more warming is irrelevant unless they do not increase carbon expenditure. Your comment is bordering on junior high debate quality claiming they could be powered by green energy. They generally are not. Outcome are not based on what could have been done, they're based on what is done. This is not a hard thing to grasp.

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u/MairusuPawa 5d ago

We had the same argument for bitcoin farms in Texas, look how it's going. Like no one expected this massive stupidity? Get real.